Late payment: School, parent go to police station over fee dispute

[war&peace]

Wow ,Bro you got it spot on.
I'm a product of Roots school system,Until my Middle-school I had the best teachers who were brilliant and choose to do SSC because O levels got kinda hard.
I found the so called inferior SSC hundred times better plus the teachers mainly handled us like their own children,That was the biggest difference and had no Ego ,On the other side the O levels branch (The superior one) was not that great.
Then I went to do A levels because roots didn't have FSC at that time.
I joined RCI DHA islamabad and found it to be the worst college,I had friends in beacon house etc which were far better.
The only best bet you had was you're friends ,Who guided and helped you along the way.
The private schools in Pakistan are totally Shit,Especially the renowned ones.
When you take classes there is no consideration for anybody.
A kid comes in the first time,just take the class and it goes over you're head because you "Just joined" and the Teacher is getting a In-depth lecture on Some organic chemistry class.
Anyways to make this short I absolutely agree with you,the private schools are very very very bad,Only credit and full marks goes to the students of those institutions like (Ali moeen nawazish) from Roots that did brilliantly and worked hard.
Trust me all those bright students don't have a single benefit from the school,it just happens because they're bright,Then the school takes the credit,its absolutely baloney .

Bro, sorry you misunderstood me, I am not saying that all the private schools are bad but what I'm trying to say is that their highest priority is money - paisa - dollar ..... and people think the higher the fee, the better it is...because parents themselves have poor education so they do not understand what is true education. Furthermore, we like to show off and sending our kids to the most expensive school is one of the ways to satisfy our egos especially when we meet our slightly lesser income relatives.

 

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Bro, sorry you misunderstood me, I am not saying that all the private schools are bad but what I'm trying to say is that their highest priority is money - paisa - dollar ..... and people think the higher the fee, the better it is...because parents themselves have poor education so they do not understand what is true education. Furthermore, we like to show off and sending our kids to the most expensive school is one of the ways to satisfy our egos especially when we meet our slightly lesser income relatives.

Well that is what I'm also saying RCI costs you 1 lakh for 5 subjects Per month,that is why I choose 3.
All private schools are bad,It depends on your luck if you get the right teachers,I know that very well.
My parents send me off to a better school,Not a Ego school lol.

 

[abdulbarijan]

No sir, same issue. World don't like USA anymore...... It's just because of you. How sincerely you wished.

Well there is a documentary called " Where to invade next" by Michael Moore .... It's a clip of it ... and it shouldn't be banned or location restricted in the U.S cuz it was actually made in the U.S by Michael ... I however can offer other site links though ... Try this out ..

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=702998159840774

Oh and stop blaming me for Trump's vctory .. I simply offered my position/opinion that Trump is a better pick then Hillary ... Had it been Bernie vs Trump ... or say if magically through some time machine Ron Paul stood up and the media gave him coverage enough that he could spread his message ... or if Jessie Ventura ran as an independent ... Or even if Hillary chose Elizbeth Warren as her VP pick ... The outcome would have been different ...

Let me act devil's advocate here, who forced them to send their child to such an expensive school. I am not against selecting the best education for your kid but still one has to make a discretion and I don't think that 100K fee school is producing any Dr Abdus Salams or Dr Abdul Qadeer Khans... still the most productive and prominent personalities in Pakistan have studied at some govt schools.
It is not the school rather we who let them exploit us. This can be extended to other day to day experiences, for example, when some food item becomes scarce in the market, people line up and pay the hefty prices for the black marketed items. I remember once it happened with tomatoes while i was visiting my relatives..and they purchased at like multiple times the original price ..and I was wondering if people refrain from using it for a few days, the prices will automatically come down since it is a perishable produce and a non-vital item (i.e. people can survive without it).

I appreciate you bringing this topic up cuz this is a very legitimate discussion. In my opinion however, your conflating two things here. Your basic argument is that of the "consumers are generating the demand" so in the end some part of the responsibility should fall on to the consumer as well ... An argument that applies in many cases but not in this one ... Not completely atleast

One pre- condition absolutely needs to be fulfilled before we start blaming the consumer ...
and that is

"-There must be a generic consensus on the system of control i.e. how it is set up, policies etc."

e.g. In this case the control of the education system ... so this includes how the system is setup, should there be public/private schooling, should there be two concurrent systems of education i.e. O/A Levels and Matric/F.S.C ... There is mixed opinion on that so while you can in theory lay some blame on the consumers however .... the result is a by-product of the system in place and hence the basic object of criticism needs to be the system ... Same goes for that food example you gave ...

A case where it flips is the media ... So most of our population after Musharraf's era has a generic consensus that media should be free and all, while those who can afford it can have more channels. So now when the consumers generate demand for particular shows or channels you can blame the consumers as the demand creators because there is a generic agreement with the system in place ...

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

What can i more than this that we live in a commercial world where the most important things in our daily life are now for profits
Education health and to some extent charities

 

[Moonlight]

Well there is a documentary called " Where to invade next" by Michael Moore .... It's a clip of it ... and it shouldn't be banned or location restricted in the U.S cuz it was actually made in the U.S by Michael ... I however can offer other site links though ... Try this out ..

Thank You for finding something. Oh so the only reason it's not banned here is because made by U.S. That hurts.

Only if I could turn into a kid and go to Finland. Absolutely loved the idea of teaching kids to be happy before achieving anything. A depress soul can't even earn bread for one meal.
Unfortunately, in recent times, 3 years old kids are carrying heavier and bigger backpacks than their own weight and size.
The only purpose of education is to get a good job and earn money. But no more learning of moralities, ethics, and to be happy is the purpose of the eduction.

Pakistan should adapt this idea of teachings and schoolings from Finland.


I am so against of putting kids in daycares and schools at age of 2/3.
Putting so much burden of studies on them both mentally and physically.

Oh and stop blaming me for Trump's vctory .. I simply offered my position/opinion that Trump is a better pick then Hillary ... Had it been Bernie vs Trump ... or say if magically through some time machine Ron Paul stood up and the media gave him coverage enough that he could spread his message ... or if Jessie Ventura ran as an independent ... Or even if Hillary chose Elizbeth Warren as her VP pick ... The outcome would have been different ...

My first choice was Barine and no idea why he lost. Almost everyone I know was supporting him. Interestingly, he lost from his own town. I mean everyone from Brooklyn was supporting him.
But lost.

Well...

Castro said, "I won't die until America is destroyed"

 

[Zibago]

Thank You for finding something. Oh so the only reason it's not banned here is because made by U.S. That hurts.

Only if I could turn into a kid and go to Finland. Absolutely loved the idea of teaching kids to be happy before achieving anything. A depress soul can't even earn bread for one meal.
Unfortunately, in recent times, 3 years old kids are carrying heavier and bigger backpacks than their own weight and size.
The only purpose of education is to get a good job and earn money. But no more learning of moralities, ethics, and to be happy is the purpose of the eduction.

Pakistan should adapt this idea of teachings and schoolings from Finland.


I am so against of putting kids in daycares and schools at age of 2/3.
Putting so much burden of studies on them both mentally and physically.



My first choice was Barine and no idea why he lost. Almost everyone I know was supporting him. Interestingly, he lost from his own town. I mean everyone from Brooklyn was supporting him.
But lost.

Well...

Castro said, "I won't die until America is destroyed"

Trump appeals to the racist nature of many American whites

 

[abdulbarijan]

Trump appeals to the racist nature of many American whites

This is precisely what lost Hillary the election i.e. Being the PC police ... Attacking Trump on racism/ sexism ... like ... He ran from the Republican party ... and normally the repubs say these sort of things with like a PC language even though what they mean is practically the same. This is what endeared Trump to the Republican base ... "He's not afraid to be politically incorrect" ...

While his campaign was focused on "Make America great again" ... which basically acknowledges that there are some problems that need fixing ... but look up Hillary .. what did she run on .. PC platitudes like "stronger together" or "American is already great" ... There was a survey that I just skimmed through ... but it said that over 70% of Americans live pay check to pay check ...
Try telling anyone living from paycheck to paycheck "Everything is great" "stronger together" ... and then compound it with the fact that Hillary was the establishment candidate ... that she was for trade deals that would loose jobs for the americans .... that she supported NAFTA when Bill was running things along ... that she voted for wars ... and was proposing a no fly zone over syria which basically meant a military confrontation with Russia and Syria ... There is too much baggage there ... which is why Trump won ...

As far as racism goes ... It's not just whites that are racist. However, you are correct that many racists/ bigots etc. supported Trump because of what he said ... but don't forget 9% of democrats voted Trump ... Thats 9% of the people that voted in Obama ... so you seriously think that it's just racism and stuff that got him the office ? There are some real issues in the U.S which Trump hammered every chance he'd get ... and all Hillary did was ... His language! his language!! If she had ran a campaign which would have targeted his policy positions ... The result could have been different but no ... platitudes and being PC ... thats all what the dems did and their biggest name lost to a reality star with a 60% unfavorable rating at one point ....

Thank You for finding something. Oh so the only reason it's not banned here is because made by U.S. That hurts.
Only if I could turn into a kid and go to Finland. Absolutely loved the idea of teaching kids to be happy before achieving anything. A depress soul can't even earn bread for one meal.
Unfortunately, in recent times, 3 years old kids are carrying heavier and bigger backpacks than their own weight and size.
The only purpose of education is to get a good job and earn money. But no more learning of moralities, ethics, and to be happy is the purpose of the eduction.

I would agree!

Pakistan should adapt this idea of teachings and schoolings from Finland.

You weren't able to see the whole video which was about 9 minutes long. In that video, Michael actually took an indepth look at the education systems of the Fins. What he found out was ... NO PRIVATE SCHOOLING ... and EVERY SCHOOL IS CREATED EQUAL and provides EQUIVALENT FACILITIES and care for children.
But to implement that sorta system here would require a gov imitative where profiting off education as a business would need to be banned ... and that is not coming any time soon ... sadly

I am so against of putting kids in daycares and schools at age of 2/3.
Putting so much burden of studies on them both mentally and physically.



My first choice was Barine and no idea why he lost. Almost everyone I know was supporting him. Interestingly, he lost from his own town. I mean everyone from Brooklyn was supporting him.
But lost.

Well...

Castro said, "I won't die until America is destroyed"

Bernie is from Vermont and he didn't loose from there. Bernie lost the DNC primaries to Hillary . After that there was a whole scandal of the Democrats leaked emails where it was revealed "Why exactly" Bernie lost to Hillary ..

 

[Hell hound]

Being the PC police

precisely the reason.
people are tired of this political correct bull sh*t. it is the next worst thing after racism.these guys just shove their agenda to your face and will judge you and even sham you on social media if you don't agree with them.
remember the all female ghost busters the SJW director of the movie called everyone misogynist who dislike the movie trailer and see what he get for demonizing his 50% viewers 72 million in loss.
this women was solely running on the base that i am a women so vote for me.

 

[Zibago]

This is precisely what lost Hillary the election i.e. Being the PC police ... Attacking Trump on racism/ sexism ... like ... He ran from the Republican party ... and normally the repubs say these sort of things with like a PC language even though what they mean is practically the same. This is what endeared Trump to the Republican base ... "He's not afraid to be politically incorrect" ...

While his campaign was focused on "Make America great again" ... which basically acknowledges that there are some problems that need fixing ... but look up Hillary .. what did she run on .. PC platitudes like "stronger together" or "American is already great" ... There was a survey that I just skimmed through ... but it said that over 70% of Americans live pay check to pay check ...
Try telling anyone living from paycheck to paycheck "Everything is great" "stronger together" ... and then compound it with the fact that Hillary was the establishment candidate ... that she was for trade deals that would loose jobs for the americans .... that she supported NAFTA when Bill was running things along ... that she voted for wars ... and was proposing a no fly zone over syria which basically meant a military confrontation with Russia and Syria ... There is too much baggage there ... which is why Trump won ...

As far as racism goes ... It's not just whites that are racist. However, you are correct that many racists/ bigots etc. supported Trump because of what he said ... but don't forget 9% of democrats voted Trump ... Thats 9% of the people that voted in Obama ... so you seriously think that it's just racism and stuff that got him the office ? There are some real issues in the U.S which Trump hammered every chance he'd get ... and all Hillary did was ... His language! his language!! If she had ran a campaign which would have targeted his policy positions ... The result could have been different but no ... platitudes and being PC ... thats all what the dems did and their biggest name lost to a reality star with a 60% unfavorable rating at one point ....

Hillary lost because she was a bad cnadidate
On pc well Donald is the right wing pc sjw

Hillary was a typical centrist established pro war hawk who borrowed ideas from Bernie way late in election to appear progressive and bought her way into the election yet she managed to win popular vote

Speaking from view point of Pakistan Donald would be better for Pakistan because US will have way too much of its own shit to deal with

 

[abdulbarijan]

Hillary lost because she was a bad cnadidate
On pc well Donald is the right wing pc sjw

We actually agree... Hillary was a bad candidate ... However, she still could have won had she actually targeted any of Don's policy positions. As far as being a right wing sjw ... No ... Not in his campaign ... but he will morph in to one in his presidency ...

Hillary was a typical centrist established pro war hawk who borrowed ideas from Bernie way late in election to appear progressive and bought her way into the election yet she managed to win popular vote

Speaking from view point of Pakistan Donald would be better for Pakistan because US will have way too much of its own shit to deal with

Agreed ...

 

[Zibago]

We actually agree... Hillary was a bad candidate ... However, she still could have won had she actually targeted any of Don's policy positions. As far as being a right wing sjw ... No ... Not in his campaign ... but he will morph in to one in his presidency ...


Agreed ...

Hate immigrants (check) hate refugees(check) hate pot smokers (check) deny climate change (check) blame US automation and bad economic policy on foreign factors(check) Pro gun(check) big army (check) believer of Christians are persecuted in US because they are not allowed to discriminate against certain folks anymore (check) statement against flag burning and calling for criminalizing it (check) anti high minimum wage(check) the list is long but these are just a few of standard rightwing pc things he endorsed to win over his base

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

These Private institutions are real money magnets. 13k for late fee is to much the man is right to file case but nothing is gonna happen to them. these schools are much more than educational institutions they are mainly status symbols.

 

[abdulbarijan]

Hate immigrants (check) hate refugees(check) hate pot smokers (check) deny climate change (check) blame US automation and bad economic policy on foreign factors(check) Pro gun(check) big army (check) believer of Christians are persecuted in US because they are not allowed to discriminate against certain folks anymore (check) statement against flag burning and calling for criminalizing it (check) anti high minimum wage(check) the list is long but these are just a few of standard rightwing pc things he endorsed to win over his base

Being PC is not really about your positions .. It's about how you defend them. The rest of the repubs have same/similar ideas yet they cloak their positions in to PC arguments ... But like I said he'll eventually morph in to one ...

 

[Zibago]

Being PC is not really about your positions .. It's about how you defend them. The rest of the repubs have same/similar ideas yet they cloak their positions in to PC arguments ... But like I said he'll eventually morph in to one ...

He is a right wing pc sjw who tweets about weird shit at odd hours
Trump mubarak America

 

[abdulbarijan]

He is a right wing pc sjw who tweets about weird shit at odd hours
Trump mubarak America

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