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capital is islamabad , already metro bus is built there .Lahore the capital of Pakistan!
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capital is islamabad , already metro bus is built there .Lahore the capital of Pakistan!
19th-century London
During the 19th century, London was transformed into the world's largest city and capital of the British Empire. Its population expanded from 1 million in 1800 to 6.7 million a century later (1.9% average annual growth). During this period, London became a global political, financial, and trading capital. In this position, it was largely unrivaled until the latter part of the century, when Paris and New York City began to threaten its dominance.
While the city grew wealthy as Britain's holdings expanded, 19th century London was also a city of poverty, where millions lived in overcrowded and unsanitary slums
Coming of the railway
19th century London was transformed by the coming of the railways. A new network of metropolitan railways allowed for the development of suburbs in other counties. London also became home to the first subway system, which laid the foundations for the modern London Underground system.
Study: Cities can significantly boost their GDP by investing in public transport
Worldwide, major cities stand to gain around $800 billion per year of economic opportunity from 2030 by upgrading their public transportation networks. This is according to a study "The Mobility Opportunity" conducted by London-based consulting firm, Credo, and presented today in Singapore. Commissioned by Siemens, the study looks at transportation networks in 35 major cities around the globe and assesses how prepared cities are to meet future challenges, including population growth and higher competition. The results: If all 35 cities studied would implement relative "best in class" standards, they stand to gain an economic benefit of roughly $238 billion annually from 2030. Extrapolating to all comparably-sized cities globally with a population of around 750,000 and greater, this suggests an economic opportunity of roughly $800 billion annually. This corresponds to about one per cent of global GDP. Today the potential benefit would be about $360 billion per year.
- Study suggests an annual economic opportunity of nearly $800 billion
- Targeted investment in public transport secures cities' attractiveness and competitiveness
- Copenhagen is the most cost-efficient city of the 35 evaluated
Transport is considered one of the major factors of a city's competitiveness. However, lack of financial resources often constrains cities' ability to invest in their transport networks. This study is unique in seeking to put an economic value on the cost of inefficient transport, thus helping cities make the case for investment. Some of the factors considered were journey times, crowding and network density, all of which impact a city's productivity. In order to have a reasonable comparison, the study groups cities into three categories to account for different levels of wealth and development. According to Credo, the most cost-efficient cities are:
Then, Credo compared cities to the leading city in their category. The comparison enabled them to quantify the economic benefits that investments in transport would bring, such as higher productivity and new economic activity. Finally, Credo has developed some key pointers on how cities can realize the potential economic uplift. Case studies show how potential investments can pay off.
- Copenhagen, Denmark (Category "Well-established cities")
- Singapore (Category "High-density compact centers")
- Santiago, Chile (Category "Emerging cities")
"All cities can learn from the leading cities in their category in order to close the gap of their transport networks' efficiency, reduce costs and increase productivity. Because the more efficient a city's transport network is, the more attractive the city is to business and people", commented Chris Molloy, Partner at Credo.
"The best transportation systems are the ones that move people quickly, easily, and comfortably to their destination. The leading cities are already achieving this with efficient transport networks that feature modern infrastructure, easy connections across various modes of transportation, and, above all, a clear strategy of how to meet future needs," said Roland Busch, CEO of the Siemens Sector Infrastructure & Cities and member of the Managing Board of Siemens AG.
Cities are the engines for future growth. They generate 80 percent of global economic output. However, in a globalized economy, with businesses and workforces increasingly able to relocate internationally, they must compete to offer the most attractive environment for economic activity. The study "The Mobility Opportunity" is geared toward city decision-makers around the world so that they may use its recommendations to achieve the greatest economic benefit.
Just a friendly advice, do not jump to conclusions.
I was in Pakistan just couple months ago and saw the situation. I stand by my statement.
And FYI, I've taken a course in urban issues which covered this metro topic.
See? This is why this country hasn't gotten anywhere, the people here are stupid enough to stubbornly stick to their vain desires by providing ludicrous arguments. Observe,
1) You are comparing the 1800s London to today's Lahore? Are you soft in the top? Your comparing a time when there was no other option for mass passenger and goods commute other than rail? Do you know when was the first car made? With which came wide paved roads, such as Lahore's? So do you need rail to transport your goods from Ichra to Shadman or can you get your butt their by road easily?
2) There will always be poverty. But were the poverty levels as high and as critical then in England as they are right now in Pakistan? Nope, not anywhere close. What did England did about those poverty levels? Invested all that it had on a Metro Train?
3) Was the British government strapped of critical funds? Nope, your article states otherwise. England at that time had more money than it could spend. Pray tell how much do we have?
4) What did England first do, built its tube (underground train)? Or invested in health, energy, education, economy? Ding, ding, ding! They first made theirs the best education system in the world, then provided their whole, yes WHOLE population with free medical care, and lets just say that the English populace has no idea what "load shedding" means.
5) Do you know what the MET was like when it was made? It was the bare essentials, not a vanity item such as what your CM wants to build. It had gas-lit wooden carriages hauled by steam locomotives.
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The above article suggests improving the transportation system to facilitate the businesses that are and businesses that will come, making them grow and hence improving the economy. Pray tell me what is the situation of "businesses" in Pakistan right now? Are they growing? Or is your whole industry in shambles due to the energy crisis that we are going through, which we apparently cannot fix because we have no funds, funds which we are spending on the GRAND METRO FEEL GOOD TRANSPORTATION PROJECT? Tell me what is your transportation system going to transport? Thousands of unemployed youth looking for any meagre employment opportunity? Hundreds of thousands of people working for less than $2 a day? You don't have enough energy to power businesses and households in the city through a +45 C day, where will the power come for this train? What would make the economy grow more in a country which has virtually no education, no energy, no industry with an utterly ruined economy?
a) Education?
b) No energy shortage?
c) Subsidies to the local businesses?
d) Subsidized fuel?
e) A shiny new Metro Train?
What have you been smoking?
Apparently you are super infatuated with Subways/Metro Trains. Trust me they are nothing glamorous. They are dirty, filthy, crowded, filled with weirdos, shady characters and thieves. No one ever goes "Hey! I know! Today I wanna go travel through the subway!" These are not vanity items. Kindly grow up....
Lahore does need a major revamp in the public transportation system. Your bus system is a joke. The buses are over crowded, broken down, the drivers are assholes, the quality is shot, the schedules are nowhere, one could go on for ever..... If you really want to improve Lahore's public transportation system start with there. Couple it with strict traffic law enforcement and you won't need to spend anything big on public transportation for another couple of decades.
The down town areas of all the major cities in North America (New York, Chicago, Toronto) and Europe (Paris, Rome, London) have very very narrow roads and more cars than all of Lahore put together. How do they manage it? Strict and efficient traffic law enforcement and a good public bus service. Ironically in Lahore the government keeps widening the roads (concept unknown to the west), builds flyovers everywhere the CM's head turns, builds a metro bus line but does not give two jacks about traffic law enforcement or the public bus system and thus the traffic situation remains out of control. Wonder why? Oh I know, because there is no vain and juvenile pride in having proper traffic controls or a good public bus service.
ps: It was funny how after the Metro Bus started, the tv channels were interviewing people about their satisfaction with the service, people who were earning less than Rs.200/day unaware that the money spent on the bus could have doubled their earnings if invested properly.
Doubt you understood any of this, because you know 'Metro Rail' *droool*.....
Yaar Bada Purana Post quote kiya hai,I had to search first & see if i had commented on something like this
On topic Power Projects,Improving the Law & Order,Reducing the time for Project Clearnce & Improving Transportation [PR & Highways] Should be the top priority.Metro Rail will surely help in de-congesting the City but Industrial Dev should be the 1st & Only priority at the moment.
Some Egs
Industrialists furious over prolonged load shedding in Faisalabad
Rating agency! Moody’s warns against political instability in Pakistan
I read somewhere they'll keep certain projects for 30 years then transfer. By then it'd be quite expensive to maintain and with maybe 10-20 years of life left. Sadly we've to go for it because we need these projects, because they'll benefit the population but give us no profits directly.Buddy since you posted Moddy's link, here is what it says now
Moody's upgrades Pakistan's bond ratings to B3 with a stable outlook
All chinese projects would be build operate transfer basis, basically chinese will invest and operate until they cover their costs and make certain level of profit after which it would be transferred to the host country in this case Pakistan
Buddy since you posted Moddy's link, here is what it says now
Moody's upgrades Pakistan's bond ratings to B3 with a stable outlook
All chinese projects would be build operate transfer basis, basically chinese will invest and operate until they cover their costs and make certain level of profit after which it would be transferred to the host country in this case Pakistan
These projects have a life of 20-30 years so be sure to get them back before it also you have handed over the gwadar port for 40 Years right?
Why not to donate those 20 Rs to SKMCH in Peshwar which is still awaiting some money from keyboard warriors?CHalo bhai jan, ap khush raho, main bhi metro ki sair karta hoon!
Why not to donate those 20 Rs to SKMCH in Peshwar which is still awaiting some money from keyboard warriors?
Pathetic attempt? I actually tried to show the hollowness. Please go and check that famous Tameer-e-School and see for yourself that how the temporary ubaal went bust with those schools still awaiting money...I see it's another pathetic attempt to divert the argument towards PTI and Imran Khan. Good luck my friend!
Pathetic attempt? I actually tried to show the hollowness. Please go and check that famous Tameer-e-School and see for yourself that how the temporary ubaal went bust with those schools still awaiting money...
SKCMHs is not about PTI its about the people and their dedication to the cause of Imran Khan....I don't know why you guys find it so hard to grab. More driven by Bugz'e Muawiya than Hub-e Ali.Yes pathetic...
Wanna discuss PTI projects or SKMCH, make another thread about it.
Don't want to take the shine of such a shiny new metro project.
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SKCMHs is not about PTI its about the people and their dedication to the cause of Imran Khan....I don't know why you guys find it so hard to grab. More driven by Bugz'e Muawiya than Hub-e Ali.