Lahore buss service. No different than Raja rental case.

[batmannow]

I know who he supports, also please highlight the part where I disrespected him.

FORGET ABOUT IT!
lets wait till project reach its finish , we can be able to discuss its fainances better?
till thn , will of the PMLn to make lahore as a modren city, is good!

 

[Cent4]

well, its not a economic section where we can do postmartom of the given project?
we are disscusing it in the political section, so we are looking into the political fallouts or political gains from this project/
as this project was started by PMLn, so they deserve the full credit rigtly?
our probelem collectivly is that , as a nation we never appreciate the goods , but we keep deciding on the issues with our favourites in our minds?


you are an impossible person?
well, thanks!
look it my sign!
its still
RISE & RISE AGAIN !
UNTILL LAMBS BECOME LIONS!

So politically we can discuss that the project is not transparent enough... no??????????

 

[batmannow]

So politically we can discuss that the project is not transparent enough... no??????????

politicly its a great move, cause PPP , PTI PMLq, none have nothing in thier credit for the coming elctions?

 

[Cent4]

politicly its a great move, cause PPP , PTI PMLq, none have nothing in thier credit for the coming elctions?

I was talking about the transparency in this particular project, anyway PPP guys there is expectations from them, PTI they have not ruled any province only thing they need to show is current govt faults and corruption, PMLq they are just a regional party like MQM they have no desire to make any impact on national level other then acting as a king maker.

 

[batmannow]

I was talking about the transparency in this particular project, anyway PPP guys there is expectations from them, PTI they have not ruled any province only thing they need to show is current govt faults and corruption, PMLq they are just a regional party like MQM they have no desire to make any impact on national level other then acting as a king maker.

the transparency in this particular project!will come under microscope when its done till that it is going to be a credible asset of PMLn in the comming elections?
PPP, with its BB income support progrm!
PMLq with ch. Pervaiz ilahi,s past tenure as the CM punjab & rescue 1155?
PTI can paint it right with SKMH?even u can see on this thread tht their supportrs can't put SKMH in the crediblity line up!
But with busses project PMLn is standing tall for the next elections in punjab?
So its a political millege game played in punjab!

 

[Hyde]

Man I am not going to argue with you any more you are an impossible person. You still have not given us your view on financial aspects of the project which asked you yesterday.

financial aspect is very important but I think not every detail is available on internet (or i was not able to find any). Lets wait for a month or two and we will have a better picture of the ground realities. The loss mentioned in the news was reported by only one or two sources and yet to be confirmed by the Government itself - so this could just be a mere speculation, I am not sure.

well, its not a economic section where we can do postmartom of the given project?
we are disscusing it in the political section, so we are looking into the political fallouts or political gains from this project/
as this project was started by PMLn, so they deserve the full credit rigtly?
our probelem collectivly is that , as a nation we never appreciate the goods , but we keep deciding on the issues with our favourites in our minds?

agreed, See since early 2000 we started hearing about Karachi circular railway project, bullet train from Lahore to Islamabad, Lahore Metro, World's second largest building, about 40 billion dollars+ worth of project in the Islands near Karachi and so on. But none of them actually materialised. Here we don't have a metro project where each line was supposed to cost billions of dollars but a smaller but very efficient project under a good little budget of only 22 billion rupees. The best part of that project is - it is no longer on the table like other projects.. It's actually practical and nearing completion.

So credit goes to the ones who started and completed this project... I remember I could not sleep for days and nights when I heard about the bullet train project couple of years ago - Now it was later scrapped and turned out to be just a dream.. our politicians gives a lot of dreams - but we don't reap anything in the end. This is at least one project which will benefit the people of Lahore and if properly managed, it will change the lives of people of Lahore (and of course similar models could follow in other cities like Karachi, Islamabad / Rawalpindi, Faislabad, Quetta and Peshawar and ultimately generate billions of rupees in revenue if managed properly.

convenient Transportation is always a very important part of people's lives or I just feel it that way

 

[Hyde]

may be this news is relevant here

Four held, truck seized while stealing iron of RTBS

LAHORE: Lahore police have seized a mini-truck and arrested four accused involved in stealing iron of Rapid Transit Bus Service (RTBS), a billion rupees project, Geo News reported.

According to police, the accused, two of them employees of Traffic Engineering and Transport Agency, tried to escape when police stopped a mini-truck loaded with iron at Misri Shah chowk.

During interrogation, the accused revealed that the stolen iron was being used in RTBS project and they were transporting it to a warehouse in Badamibagh iron market.

During the investigation, accused identified as Umer, Nadeem, Amjad and Asghar said they stole the iron from Shafiqabad and were shifting it for selling.

Sources informed ‘Geo News’ that police had not lodged any case till late night, adding the mini-truck was also missing from the police station.

Source: Four held, truck seized while stealing iron of RTBS - geo.tv

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

I remember 25 years ago you said samethings about motorways, your exact words were and I quote

"RS 500 toll what were they thinking. who plans all the terms and conditions with Korean company
Toll price is to much, when the deals are done on such high price of travel to the people should not come at the expense of running the project in loss.

The impression that, public is getting a good service at cheap rates is wrong. At the end of day the losses of the project will be paid from public money"

now you tell Indian on PDF how nice our highways are, arent you?

Bhai jan, India have many such highways. and the toll is also very low( not more than rs 150 for the latest yamuna express way. and this rate is after snatching their due by corrupt politicians. Now days link roads of major B class cities are also six lane highways.

 

[jha]

Looks good in Paper. But Rs. 360/Km. is a bit too much. An underground metro would have been better in my opinion.

 

[Edevelop]

may be this news is relevant here

Four held, truck seized while stealing iron of RTBS

LAHORE: Lahore police have seized a mini-truck and arrested four accused involved in stealing iron of Rapid Transit Bus Service (RTBS), a billion rupees project, Geo News reported.

According to police, the accused, two of them employees of Traffic Engineering and Transport Agency, tried to escape when police stopped a mini-truck loaded with iron at Misri Shah chowk.

During interrogation, the accused revealed that the stolen iron was being used in RTBS project and they were transporting it to a warehouse in Badamibagh iron market.

During the investigation, accused identified as Umer, Nadeem, Amjad and Asghar said they stole the iron from Shafiqabad and were shifting it for selling.

Sources informed ‘Geo News’ that police had not lodged any case till late night, adding the mini-truck was also missing from the police station.

Source: Four held, truck seized while stealing iron of RTBS - geo.tv

This is something you can't blame the government. I mean our people seriously have some issues. Damn they even sometimes steal as stupid as sewage gutters and plastic chairs in poitical jalsas !

 

[Edevelop]

Bhai jan, India have many such highways. and the toll is also very low( not more than rs 150 for the latest yamuna express way. and this rate is after snatching their due by corrupt politicians. Now days link roads of major B class cities are also six lane highways.

In fact, Pakistan was the first country in South Asia to have built a highway. (That was the M-2 Islamabad-Lahore). I read somewhere that Indians and Sri Lankans had came to learn and took it as a role model....

 

[batmannow]

financial aspect is very important but I think not every detail is available on internet (or i was not able to find any). Lets wait for a month or two and we will have a better picture of the ground realities. The loss mentioned in the news was reported by only one or two sources and yet to be confirmed by the Government itself - so this could just be a mere speculation, I am not sure.



agreed, See since early 2000 we started hearing about Karachi circular railway project, bullet train from Lahore to Islamabad, Lahore Metro, World's second largest building, about 40 billion dollars+ worth of project in the Islands near Karachi and so on. But none of them actually materialised. Here we don't have a metro project where each line was supposed to cost billions of dollars but a smaller but very efficient project under a good little budget of only 22 billion rupees. The best part of that project is - it is no longer on the table like other projects.. It's actually practical and nearing completion.

So credit goes to the ones who started and completed this project... I remember I could not sleep for days and nights when I heard about the bullet train project couple of years ago - Now it was later scrapped and turned out to be just a dream.. our politicians gives a lot of dreams - but we don't reap anything in the end. This is at least one project which will benefit the people of Lahore and if properly managed, it will change the lives of people of Lahore (and of course similar models could follow in other cities like Karachi, Islamabad / Rawalpindi, Faislabad, Quetta and Peshawar and ultimately generate billions of rupees in revenue if managed properly.

convenient Transportation is always a very important part of people's lives or I just feel it that way

Yes indeed a vry good post!
Thts what I meant, we the peoples should demand & incourge these politicians to at least the level that at least they should strt these kind of projects so our collective thinking as a modren nation could be devloped?
Be it karachi, lahore, faislabad, multan,hyderabad , or other cities any city , any where around pakistan are wellcomed.
Musharaf was among very few of leaders we had in decads who realy tried to improve the infrastructure of our country, PMLn also is way ahead in terms of infrastructure creation & they deserves this credit!

This is something you can't blame the government. I mean our people seriously have some issues. Damn they even sometimes steal as stupid as sewage gutters and plastic chairs in poitical jalsas !

Should get a harsh punishment, these chors!

 

[Devil Soul]

for me i cant understand why need a turkish company to run a simple buss service?? How can turks know Pakistan better tha Pakistanies ? And PML.N is well known for copying every thing they dont have own brain.

Hiring locals is common practice carried out by international contractors/consultants/Org's, so chill u'll see all Pakistani staff

 

[Fracker]

Read my posts again with an open mind and you will see I am not bashing the project just for the sake of it, I have problem with the process. I would like that one day people like you take interest in these projects to understand how and why this is happening and why it is not transparent enough no matter how is running the Govt.

I already read it with open mind, but you are doubting a project which not been even implemented yet. Also, you are wrong here, Punjab Government didn't giving any operational management to any other company. But they are paying only the implementation cost. Where Turkish Company (On directions of Turkish Government) is helping Punjab Government in Planning, Designing and implementing this project on Fast rapid way. Same way another turkish company did in Motorway, Same Way one Turkish Company did in Waste Management System.. And so o on...

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

In fact, Pakistan was the first country in South Asia to have built a highway. (That was the M-2 Islamabad-Lahore). I read somewhere that Indians and Sri Lankans had came to learn and took it as a role model....

M2 motorway was a very good initiative. what i wanted to say that pakistan should have made many such motorways.