Kulbhushan network: Pakistan demands access to 15 Indian citizens

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Yes feel safe. This is how according to you a spy ring works, where all key assets talk to each other and know their identities. At one time, you can only nab one handler and a few agents or assets. No spy agency will put someone in the ground if he knows all the handlers/assets in the country.

when you get the ring leader the assets are exposed. You don't know anything about spy game. The list of all 15 indians of the networks have been provided to the concerned countries, along with arrests of many.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Do you know what a tabloid is? Mumbai Mirror is a tabloid. It publishes anything. Citing it is the same as Daily Mail or NY Post. Please improve the quality of what you read.

http://www.india.com/news/india/raw...aking-marathi-over-call-interception-1063063/

http://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.c...rd-him-speak-Marathi/articleshow/51588961.cms

 

[Radio Mirchi]

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No here in it tgey said that he was kidnapped in iran . while indian claim is he was in iran

Who says he was kidnapped in Iran? India says that he ran ships between India and Iran and frequently visited Chahbahar and Iran for his business. German diplomat got this info from his sources who perhaps had limited information and told him what they knew. Its immaterial if he was kidnapped from Iran or international waters but Gunter Mulack is an authority on the region and has a reputation. He made this statement in Karachi, Pakistan before Pakistani audience.
Pakistan can take any confessions from him under custody but the message has reached the world that Pakistan is not being fair to him.

 

[Jacob Martin]

when you get the ring leader the assets are exposed. You don't know anything about spy game. The list of all 15 indians of the networks have been provided to the concerned countries, along with arrests of many.

There is nothing called a ring-leader. These are stories fed to the media and gullible public to ensure they feel the job is done and they are safe. Political reasons. For a second take off your dimwit goggles and think reasonably.

If you are tasked with heading spy operations in any country, would you structure it in such a way that compromising one compromises all? Even terrorist organizations know better. They are organized as cells where anyone who may be apprehended knows only those under him and the single contact he reports to.

RAW/ISI are no different.

http://www.india.com/news/india/raw...aking-marathi-over-call-interception-1063063/

http://ahmedabadmirror.indiatimes.c...rd-him-speak-Marathi/articleshow/51588961.cms

Again, two tabloid news sources which picked up the original piece from Mumbai Mirror. One of them is infact the Ahmedabad edition of the Mirror.

Hint: don't look for news about intelligence activities on tabloid sites. Why were you browsing it in any case? Bollywood gossip right? Don't lie!!!

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Again, two tabloid news sources which picked up the original piece from Mumbai Mirror. One of them is infact the Ahmedabad edition of the Mirror.

Hint: don't look for news about intelligence activities on tabloid sites. Why were you browsing it in any case? Bollywood gossip right? Don't lie!!!

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/113813-Indian-Navy-chief-confirms-RAW-agent-Yadav-served-in-Navy

 

[coffee_cup]

As for terrorist attacks, do we have to go down this road, who did which attack and where? Are you sure?

Be my guest, feel free to blame Pakistan for everything going wrong in India from terror boat to Samjhota Express to Malegaon to Mumbai to Uri to spy pigeons to cats getting pregnant.

Whatever floats your boat dude...

 

[HAIDER]

First of all there is no concrete evidence that he is a terrorist

2) Iran never confirmed pakistans claim.

3) He was kidnapped in Iran and was framed.

4) there are many Indian nationals working in Iran and Afghanistan. This episode is pointing to the fact that Pakistan can go to any extent to frame India.

5) German ambassador already confirmed that this guy was kidnapped from Iranian border by taliban and sold to Pakistani isi.

6) Pakistan is known for tit for tat actions.

7) off late Pakistani actions has Chinese finger prints all over it.

I think you missed Iran news, where they claimed they have caught his second in command from Tehran running jewelry shop.

 

[Jacob Martin]

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/113813-Indian-Navy-chief-confirms-RAW-agent-Yadav-served-in-Navy

So... What if he did serve in the Navy? Everyone works somewhere. How does that establish anything else?

Samjhota Express to Malegaon

You seem to specifically remember two out of the hundreds of terror attacks in India in the past decade. Why is that so? What do two attacks out of a few hundred establish? Are patterns established by the exception or the rule?

 

[coffee_cup]

You seem to specifically remember two out of the hundreds of terror attacks in India in the past decade. Why is that so? What do two attacks out of a few hundred establish? Are patterns established by the exception or the rule?

There are many more.

Uri, terror boat and what not. India has seriously damaged her credibility by blaming Pakistan within hours of any terror attack taking place in India. And this is an established pattern.

Many a times she got a tomatoe on her face for lying blatantly, but for reasons unknown that has still not stopped India to blame Pakistan for everything happening in India.

 

[Jacob Martin]

There are many more.

Uri, terror boat and what not. India has seriously damaged her credibility by blaming Pakistan within hours of any terror attack taking place in India. And this is an established pattern.

Many a times she got a tomatoe on her face for lying blatantly, but for reasons unknown that has still not stopped India to blame Pakistan for everything happening in India.

But by your definition all attacks in India must then be inside jobs. Because while all this was taken into account while designating LeT, JeM,HuM, Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, etc., Pakistan officially denies everything. So can you specifically name the exceptions?

 

[django]

About time!

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

So... What if he did serve in the Navy? Everyone works somewhere. How does that establish anything else?

 

[coffee_cup]

But by your definition all attacks in India must then be inside jobs. Because while all this was taken into account while designating LeT, JeM,HuM, Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar, etc., Pakistan officially denies everything. So can you specifically name the exceptions?

Not all but majority of them are.

Check the statistics for last year. Majority were carried by internal actors, for God sake you have insurgencies in more than 15 states + Indian Occupied Kashmir. What do you expect?

And those blamed on Pakistan either did not have enough evidence or turned out to be either internal ones or in one case (Uri) external one being done by Kashmiri militants.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Who says he was kidnapped in Iran? India says that he ran ships between India and Iran and frequently visited Chahbahar and Iran for his business. German diplomat got this info from his sources who perhaps had limited information and told him what they knew. Its immaterial if he was kidnapped from Iran or international waters but Gunter Mulack is an authority on the region and has a reputation. He made this statement in Karachi, Pakistan before Pakistani audience.
Pakistan can take any confessions from him under custody but the message has reached the world that Pakistan is not being fair to him.

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/m.ind...il-kidnapped-indian-businessman/1/631151.html
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Your very own media . stop making stories.

 

[Jacob Martin]

Not all but majority of them are.

Check the statistics for last year. Majority were carried by internal actors, for God sake you have insurgencies in more than 15 states + Indian Occupied Kashmir. What do you expect?

And those blamed on Pakistan either did not have enough evidence or turned out to be either internal ones or in one case (Uri) external one being done by Kashmiri militants.

You guys should do something about Asad Durrani. He talks a lot:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahom...s-supporting-insurgency-Indias-Northeast.html

Also, ISI training and support for NSCN and ULFA is no secret either:

https://www.google.co.in/amp/amp.sc...tans-isi-has-been-at-work-in-north-east-india

I agree that not all of it is sanctioned and supported by the Pak Army/ISI, such as meetings between Naxalites and LeT:

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/pakistan-and-naxalite-movement-india

But the point is - you train and arm one, they do it to the next, that's the domino chain right there. Once they form networks, they are autonomous but no point arguing on a piecemeal manner as not being responsible for every attack does not make those responsible for the majority any less guilty.