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Allegiance Council

The Allegiance Council (Arabic: هيئة البيعة‎ Hay’at al-Bay‘ah; also known as the Allegiance Commission or Allegiance Institution) is the body responsible for determining future succession to the throne of Saudi Arabia. It was formed in 2006 by King Abdullah. At the time of its formation, the Council's intended function was to appoint a Crown Prince once a new King succeeds to the throne. After the death of Crown Prince Sultan in October 2011, the Council declared Prince Nayef as the new Crown Prince.


History

Previously, under Chapter 2 of the Basic Law promulgated by King Fahd, the appointment of the next in line was the sole prerogative of the King:

“ The King chooses the Heir Apparent and relieves him of his duties by Royal order. ”

— Chapter 2, Article 5(c) of the Basic Law of Saudi Arabia.

The appointment of a successor by the King was usually done with some form of informal consensus among members of the royal family. However, after Abdullah succeeded Fahd as King, the behind-the-scenes battles over the future of the monarchy intensified, particularly between Abdullah and the Sudairi princes, including Crown Prince Sultan and Prince Nayef. Due to increasing uncertainty of succession beyond Sultan, King Abdullah issued the Allegiance Institution Law in 2006, which formally established the Allegiance Council. The Council gave additional voice to members of the Al Saud when a new King selects his Crown Prince.

According to an October 2009 diplomatic cable from the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh, the Al Saud described the Council as a "codification of the unwritten rules that have governed the selection of Saudi rulers since the passing of King Abdulaziz in 1953."

The role of the Council was intended to take effect once Sultan succeeded to the throne. However, in 2009, when Sultan was gravely ill with cancer, Prince Nayef was appointed Second Deputy Prime Minister (a position for the crown prince in waiting), presumably to keep the position of Crown Prince within the Sudairi faction.[6] This has led to uncertainty over the role of the Council. The appointment was openly questioned by Prince Talal, a senior prince.

The Council undertook its duties for the first time when Prince Sultan died in October 2011. One week after Sultan's death, King Abdullah announced that the Council had selected Prince Nayef as the new Crown Prince.


Role

Under the Allegiance Institution Law, the King nominates up to three candidates for the position of Crown Prince. The Allegiance Council then selects one of them as Crown Prince. If the Council rejects all of the King's nominees, it may nominate its own candidate. The Crown Prince will be then decided by a vote among the Council:

“ In the event that the King rejects the committee’s nominee, the Allegiance Institution will hold a vote to choose between the King’s candidate and its own in accordance with Sections A and B of this Article. The nominee who secures the majority of votes will be named Crown Prince. ”

— Article 7 of The Allegiance Institution Law.

The Council also preempts the possibility of the King becoming incapacitated. In the event the King permanently loses his ability to exercise his powers, the Council will declare the Crown Prince as King. If both the King and the Crown Prince become permanently incapacitated, the Council will form a five-member Transitory Ruling Council to temporarily assume administration of the Kingdom. The Council will also select a new King within seven days.


Membership

The Council comprises all branches of the Al Saud descended from the Kingdom's founder, King Abdulaziz ("Ibn Saud"). Members include surviving sons of Abdulaziz, grandsons whose fathers are deceased, incapacitated or unwilling to assume the throne and the sons of the King and Crown Prince. It currently consists of 33 members: 14 surviving sons of Abdulaziz and his 19 grandsons, each representing his deceased or incapacitated sons.

However, the line of Hamoud bin Abdulaziz is not represented in the Council, since he died without a son. One of King Abdulaziz's sons, Prince Fawwaz, was a member at the Council, but died in 2008 without sons. Grandson of Turki (I), Turki bin Faisal, died on 28 February 2009 and replaced by his brother, Abdullah bin Faisal bin Turki. Bandar bin Musaid also replaced his brother, Abdullah bin Musaid.

Prince Talal resigned from the Council three weeks after the appointment of Prince Nayef as Crown Prince in November 2011. His resignation means one of his sons might take his position in the Council.

In December 2011, Saud bin Nayef was appointed as a member of the Council since his father, Prince Nayef could not have a seat in the Council due to being then crown prince.

The Council is chaired by Prince Mishaal, who is not considered to be in the line of succession. Members of the Council swear an oath of allegiance to the King.


Motivations behind its formation

The foundation of the Council was seen as way to diminish the influence of the Sudairi brothers, who could be easily outvoted in the Council. Despite this, the Sudairis are said to have influence over more than half the council members.




- Note (Bubblegum Crisis):

Prince Nayef was the most influential of the “Sudairi Seven”. King Fahd died, Sultan died, Nayef died. Slowly but surely :wave: all more “Archaics” Sudairis.

Long live futur KSA.


 
Salman is futur king of KSA..


Sulman is man progressive.


Crown Prince “Sultan” bin Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud

He is the second eldest son of the Minister of Defense, Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz.





See all links:

Sultan bin Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


STS-51-G was the eighteenth flight of NASA's Space Shuttle program, and the “fifth flight of Space Shuttle Discovery”. The mission launched from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on 17 June 1985. Sultan Salman Al Saud of Saudi Arabia was on board as a payload specialist; Al Saud became the first Arab, the first Muslim, and the first member of a royal family to fly into space.

STS-51-G - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


 
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second that :pop:
The more interesting question is who after Salman?
There are only 17 brothers alive and of those only 4-5 suitable...
In the mean time, the Egyptian military council have thrown out the elected parliament and will rig the presidential election to Shafiq.
It seems the "Arab Spring" will be reversed on all fronts..
 
The more interesting question is who after Salman?
There are only 17 brothers alive and of those only 4-5 suitable...

what about people ... does anybody ask their opinion of their future ?
 
after salman :
عبدالرحمن، طلال، تركي و مقرن
and muqran is mysterious because he have the controll of the istikhbarat and he may murdur others for being king! but he prefered to be in shadows ...
and there are another choices for the king متعصب , he is also younger (66) and he is also one the choices in my idea and he is the worst i think , because he will make everything in the military ways ....
also عبدالرحمن is clsoer to the king but main choices will be:
salman , muqran, motaseb?(متعصب )
 
if you mean shia , yes the tomb of Imam Ali is in NAJAF , i didn't understood you post :(
 
The more interesting question is who after Salman?
There are only 17 brothers alive and of those only 4-5 suitable...
In the mean time, the Egyptian military council have thrown out the elected parliament and will rig the presidential election to Shafiq.
It seems the "Arab Spring" will be reversed on all fronts..





Salman bin Abdel Aziz is only 76 years old. I think after him they may go for the next generation.
 
no he is 78 :D

for that i told متعصب is another choince with 66 years old
 
Salman bin Abdel Aziz is only 76 years old. I think after him they may go for the next generation.

This was the will of late Abdul Aziz ibn Saud that until anyone of his son is alive, his grandsons cannot become king.

I think this is the reason they are facing the problem that all the possible successors to thrones are above 70.
 
This was the will of late Abdul Aziz ibn Saud that until anyone of his son is alive, his grandsons cannot become king.

I think this is the reason they are facing the problem that all the possible successors to thrones are above 70.

It was actually a good choice. It means more fresh blood is pumped into the rule and each one wants to be remembered with certain progression Of the country. But by far Andullah has outdone the rest by far.
 
Man that king had 37 sons. Damn. Anybody know how many daughters he had and wives?
 
and there are another choices for the king متعصب , he is also younger (66) and he is also one the choices in my idea and he is the worst i t
Who the hell is that? Never heard of him. The youngest is Muqrin.
 

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