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By Haider Abbas


The hard-reckoning for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia under Crown Prince MbS is likely to arrive as the long romance with out-going US President Donald Trump has almost ended and soon there is to be a ‘changed music’ in Washington under President elect Joseph Biden. Therefore, if Biden is to be kept in ‘good humour’, then KSA acceptance of Israel, perhaps is the sole bargain.


There are already four- Arab or African Muslim states who have accepted Israel, which was started from August 14, 2020 by UAE, followed by Bahrain, Sudan and now Morocco. It is a well known fact that everything has happened after the blessings of KSA which is also now gearing-up to embrace Israel, but on December 6, 2020, a spanner into it was thrown by Faisal Al Turki, who had been KSA Ex. Ambassador to US. According to Al Jazeera, as he rallied Israel to be a Western ‘colonising’ power which has treated Palestinians to the worst conceivable non-human conditions.


He was speaking at Manama virtual summit in Bahrain where he said “They (Israel) )are demolishing homes as they wish and they assassinate whomever they want.” He ‘also criticised Israel’s undeclared arsenal of nuclear weapons and the Israeli government’s “unleashing their political minions and their media outlets from other countries to denigrate and demonise Saudi Arabia”’. Not surprisingly, the Israel foreign minister Gabi Ashkenazi who was to speak next was not impressed, particularly, so when MbS had recently met Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu, something which was assumed to be a step forward towards acceptance of Israel.


The entire world media has been debating on the intrigues of politics of KSA, Middle-East and Israel after August. A very extensive piece on the same lines has been published in Israel’s Haaretz on December 12, 2020 where it been debated that serious differences have arisen between KSA King Salman and his son over the issue of Israel as the former considers pan-Arab identity and association with the Palestine issue as his forte while the latter emphasises on ‘Saudi-first’ as the new mantra, which in frank terms is that Palestine issue may be thrown to backburner. Turki has already been put under house-arrest and that Israeli PM Netanyahu had also shot a letter to MbS demanding explanation to Turki’s remarks which prompted MbS to apologise and convey that it was a misunderstanding. There is also a speculation, according to some Saudi analysts in the West, that even a soft coup might be in the offing against King Salman and he too may be put-to-custody, the same way MbS has since long done to his own mother!


It is likely that MbS is to bend on his back to placate Biden as he has personally been issued with a summon by the US court to have allegedly plotted to kill his once intelligence chief Saad Al Jabri by sending assassins the way they were sent for to kill journalist Jamal Khashogi. Khashogi fiancée has also accused MbS in US court, which would mean a ban on MbS from travel to US and the West. Biden has also declared that US would not be selling arms to KSA.


How this all will melt into favour of KSA? Only the affirmation of two-state-formula between Palestine Authority and Israel can bring the win-win situation which is slated to happen very soon. All courtesies to Egyptian President Sisi. It is only matter of few days or months that KSA will ‘normalise’ with Israel leaving no room for Pakistan to also comply too, as Pakistan too has maintained that unless Palestine issue is resolved it cannot accept Israel, despite the fact that Pakistan has been slapped with a ‘lot of humiliation’ since August as both UAE and KSA want it to do the same.


Pakistan had to bear the brunt from August onwards as it dissociated itself from KSA sponsored OIC on the issue of Kashmir, which OIC did for the namesake on November 30, 2020. During the last four months, Pakistan job visas have been scrapped by UAE and KSA sought its interest based 3 billion USD loan back which Pakistan is slated to repay its second instalment of 1 billion USD on December 14, 2020, of course with China’s help. Pakistan and China are seeing ‘eye-to-eye’ on the issue of Kashmir and Ladakh with India.


India is also playing its cards well. It has got Pakistan isolated from KSA and UAE and right now India’s army chief is on the visit to these nations , where an Indian contingent may be deployed in UAE and KSA, discussed Eurasian Times on December 10, 2020, but KSA may ask for Indian help in its war in Yemen too, which will be one of the biggest questions to face India’s PM Narendra Modi as it will automatically antagonize Iran. Israel will not see Biden going ahead with a nuclear-deal with Iran again, but there is also the a question? Whether UAE will also draw ‘curtains’ on around 3000 Iranian companies operating from UAE under the influence of Israel?


Let’s see how the Biden era is to unfold.

http://muslimmirror.com/eng/ksa-cow...ing-gift-to-joseph-biden-by-embracing-israel/
 
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By Haider Abbas


The hard-reckoning for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia under Crown Prince MbS is likely to arrive as the long romance with out-going US President Donald Trump has almost ended and soon there is to be a ‘changed music’ in Washington under President elect Joseph Biden. Therefore, if Biden is to be kept in ‘good humour’, then KSA acceptance of Israel, perhaps is the sole bargain.


There are already four- Arab or African Muslim states who have accepted Israel, which was started from August 14, 2020 by UAE, followed by Bahrain, Sudan and now Morocco. It is a well known fact that everything has happened after the blessings of KSA which is also now gearing-up to embrace Israel, but on December 6, 2020, a spanner into it was thrown by Faisal Al Turki, who had been KSA Ex. Ambassador to US. According to Al Jazeera, as he rallied Israel to be a Western ‘colonising’ power which has treated Palestinians to the worst conceivable non-human conditions.


He was speaking at Manama virtual summit in Bahrain where he said “They (Israel) )are demolishing homes as they wish and they assassinate whomever they want.” He ‘also criticised Israel’s undeclared arsenal of nuclear weapons and the Israeli government’s “unleashing their political minions and their media outlets from other countries to denigrate and demonise Saudi Arabia”’. Not surprisingly, the Israel foreign minister Gabi Ashkenazi who was to speak next was not impressed, particularly, so when MbS had recently met Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu, something which was assumed to be a step forward towards acceptance of Israel.


The entire world media has been debating on the intrigues of politics of KSA, Middle-East and Israel after August. A very extensive piece on the same lines has been published in Israel’s Haaretz on December 12, 2020 where it been debated that serious differences have arisen between KSA King Salman and his son over the issue of Israel as the former considers pan-Arab identity and association with the Palestine issue as his forte while the latter emphasises on ‘Saudi-first’ as the new mantra, which in frank terms is that Palestine issue may be thrown to backburner. Turki has already been put under house-arrest and that Israeli PM Netanyahu had also shot a letter to MbS demanding explanation to Turki’s remarks which prompted MbS to apologise and convey that it was a misunderstanding. There is also a speculation, according to some Saudi analysts in the West, that even a soft coup might be in the offing against King Salman and he too may be put-to-custody, the same way MbS has since long done to his own mother!


It is likely that MbS is to bend on his back to placate Biden as he has personally been issued with a summon by the US court to have allegedly plotted to kill his once intelligence chief Saad Al Jabri by sending assassins the way they were sent for to kill journalist Jamal Khashogi. Khashogi fiancée has also accused MbS in US court, which would mean a ban on MbS from travel to US and the West. Biden has also declared that US would not be selling arms to KSA.


How this all will melt into favour of KSA? Only the affirmation of two-state-formula between Palestine Authority and Israel can bring the win-win situation which is slated to happen very soon. All courtesies to Egyptian President Sisi. It is only matter of few days or months that KSA will ‘normalise’ with Israel leaving no room for Pakistan to also comply too, as Pakistan too has maintained that unless Palestine issue is resolved it cannot accept Israel, despite the fact that Pakistan has been slapped with a ‘lot of humiliation’ since August as both UAE and KSA want it to do the same.


Pakistan had to bear the brunt from August onwards as it dissociated itself from KSA sponsored OIC on the issue of Kashmir, which OIC did for the namesake on November 30, 2020. During the last four months, Pakistan job visas have been scrapped by UAE and KSA sought its interest based 3 billion USD loan back which Pakistan is slated to repay its second instalment of 1 billion USD on December 14, 2020, of course with China’s help. Pakistan and China are seeing ‘eye-to-eye’ on the issue of Kashmir and Ladakh with India.


India is also playing its cards well. It has got Pakistan isolated from KSA and UAE and right now India’s army chief is on the visit to these nations , where an Indian contingent may be deployed in UAE and KSA, discussed Eurasian Times on December 10, 2020, but KSA may ask for Indian help in its war in Yemen too, which will be one of the biggest questions to face India’s PM Narendra Modi as it will automatically antagonize Iran. Israel will not see Biden going ahead with a nuclear-deal with Iran again, but there is also the a question? Whether UAE will also draw ‘curtains’ on around 3000 Iranian companies operating from UAE under the influence of Israel?


Let’s see how the Biden era is to unfold.

http://muslimmirror.com/eng/ksa-cow...ing-gift-to-joseph-biden-by-embracing-israel/
Donkey salman needs to face the gallows for his crimes. here we are talking of house warming by a murderer and his henchmen.
 
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باب قَوْلِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ وَيْلٌ لِلْعَرَبِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَدِ اقْتَرَبَ ‏"‏
The Prophet (ﷺ) got up from his sleep with a flushed red face and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe to the Arabs, from the Great evil that is nearly approaching them. Today a gap has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this." (Sufyan illustrated by this forming the number 90 or 100 with his fingers.) It was asked, "Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous people among us?" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Yes, if evil increased."
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 7059
In-book reference : Book 92, Hadith 11
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 181
(deprecated numbering scheme)
 
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So nice to finally see peace in the middle east between the arabs and the jews. Credit must go to Trump and Kushner as well all the parties involved. This is the kind of world we want, hope for peace in this neighbourhood too.
 
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Palestinians are also arabs.
They are, and the Israelis have been pretty benevolent toward them overall. Just that when rockets are launched against their civilians indiscriminately, their chosen method is a waay disproportionate military response. Crude rockets responded to with F16s dropping lgbs, Jdams, and with arty fire etc

Violence is always bad but Hamas ask for it and it always ends up doing more damage to their own people. It's a tactic to get people to not support Hamas.

The Trump-Kushner plan is good, give them money.. economic prosperity, and all will be well. All their goods come through Israel anyway, and Gaza is a much better place than many small impoverished towns in the subcontinent. This conflict needs to end, no more religious wars in the middle east !

Inshallah, may there be peace between India and Pak soon too. We want to make Kashmir a prosperous region, that's the plan for here too.
 
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They are, and the Israelis have been pretty benevolent toward them overall. Just that when rockets are launched against their civilians indiscriminately, their chosen method is a waay disproportionate military response. Crude rockets responded to with F16s dropping lgbs, Jdams, and with arty fire etc

Violence is always bad but Hamas ask for it and it always ends up doing more damage to their own people. It's a tactic to get people to not support Hamas.

The Trump-Kushner plan is good, give them money.. economic prosperity, and all will be well. All their goods come through Israel anyway, and Gaza is a much better place than many small impoverished towns in the subcontinent. This conflict needs to end, no more religious wars in the middle east !

Inshallah, may there be peace between India and Pak soon too. We want to make Kashmir a prosperous region, that's the plan for here too.

India should surrender its territory to China willingly for better life by that logic.
 
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It's about time KSA recognized Israel. Oman's new Sultan seems not too bright, otherwise he would have done so too by now. There are reports Indonesia may also very soon normalize relations
 
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By Haider Abbas


The hard-reckoning for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia under Crown Prince MbS is likely to arrive as the long romance with out-going US President Donald Trump has almost ended and soon there is to be a ‘changed music’ in Washington under President elect Joseph Biden. Therefore, if Biden is to be kept in ‘good humour’, then KSA acceptance of Israel, perhaps is the sole bargain.


There are already four- Arab or African Muslim states who have accepted Israel, which was started from August 14, 2020 by UAE, followed by Bahrain, Sudan and now Morocco. It is a well known fact that everything has happened after the blessings of KSA which is also now gearing-up to embrace Israel, but on December 6, 2020, a spanner into it was thrown by Faisal Al Turki, who had been KSA Ex. Ambassador to US. According to Al Jazeera, as he rallied Israel to be a Western ‘colonising’ power which has treated Palestinians to the worst conceivable non-human conditions.


He was speaking at Manama virtual summit in Bahrain where he said “They (Israel) )are demolishing homes as they wish and they assassinate whomever they want.” He ‘also criticised Israel’s undeclared arsenal of nuclear weapons and the Israeli government’s “unleashing their political minions and their media outlets from other countries to denigrate and demonise Saudi Arabia”’. Not surprisingly, the Israel foreign minister Gabi Ashkenazi who was to speak next was not impressed, particularly, so when MbS had recently met Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu, something which was assumed to be a step forward towards acceptance of Israel.


The entire world media has been debating on the intrigues of politics of KSA, Middle-East and Israel after August. A very extensive piece on the same lines has been published in Israel’s Haaretz on December 12, 2020 where it been debated that serious differences have arisen between KSA King Salman and his son over the issue of Israel as the former considers pan-Arab identity and association with the Palestine issue as his forte while the latter emphasises on ‘Saudi-first’ as the new mantra, which in frank terms is that Palestine issue may be thrown to backburner. Turki has already been put under house-arrest and that Israeli PM Netanyahu had also shot a letter to MbS demanding explanation to Turki’s remarks which prompted MbS to apologise and convey that it was a misunderstanding. There is also a speculation, according to some Saudi analysts in the West, that even a soft coup might be in the offing against King Salman and he too may be put-to-custody, the same way MbS has since long done to his own mother!


It is likely that MbS is to bend on his back to placate Biden as he has personally been issued with a summon by the US court to have allegedly plotted to kill his once intelligence chief Saad Al Jabri by sending assassins the way they were sent for to kill journalist Jamal Khashogi. Khashogi fiancée has also accused MbS in US court, which would mean a ban on MbS from travel to US and the West. Biden has also declared that US would not be selling arms to KSA.


How this all will melt into favour of KSA? Only the affirmation of two-state-formula between Palestine Authority and Israel can bring the win-win situation which is slated to happen very soon. All courtesies to Egyptian President Sisi. It is only matter of few days or months that KSA will ‘normalise’ with Israel leaving no room for Pakistan to also comply too, as Pakistan too has maintained that unless Palestine issue is resolved it cannot accept Israel, despite the fact that Pakistan has been slapped with a ‘lot of humiliation’ since August as both UAE and KSA want it to do the same.


Pakistan had to bear the brunt from August onwards as it dissociated itself from KSA sponsored OIC on the issue of Kashmir, which OIC did for the namesake on November 30, 2020. During the last four months, Pakistan job visas have been scrapped by UAE and KSA sought its interest based 3 billion USD loan back which Pakistan is slated to repay its second instalment of 1 billion USD on December 14, 2020, of course with China’s help. Pakistan and China are seeing ‘eye-to-eye’ on the issue of Kashmir and Ladakh with India.


India is also playing its cards well. It has got Pakistan isolated from KSA and UAE and right now India’s army chief is on the visit to these nations , where an Indian contingent may be deployed in UAE and KSA, discussed Eurasian Times on December 10, 2020, but KSA may ask for Indian help in its war in Yemen too, which will be one of the biggest questions to face India’s PM Narendra Modi as it will automatically antagonize Iran. Israel will not see Biden going ahead with a nuclear-deal with Iran again, but there is also the a question? Whether UAE will also draw ‘curtains’ on around 3000 Iranian companies operating from UAE under the influence of Israel?


Let’s see how the Biden era is to unfold.

http://muslimmirror.com/eng/ksa-cow...ing-gift-to-joseph-biden-by-embracing-israel/
Not happening. KSA is very different from other Arab states like UAE and Qatar. In Saudi Arabia religious clergy still is very strong plus the tribes which don't like Al Saud are also very strong. Plus public in general are also not that ready to accept Israel.
 
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So nice to finally see peace in the middle east between the arabs and the jews. Credit must go to Trump and Kushner as well all the parties involved. This is the kind of world we want, hope for peace in this neighbourhood too.
What will be unleashed after is going to be much worse. Mummy daddy bachey.
 
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an incidental remark obiter dictum comment, It shows a lack of knowledge on the subject that you commenting on. nonsense

I just spoke of the significance of the symbol. You see what you see. I see what I see. People are not the same. Greeks used the owl symbol, thus fingers 90, since 800-700 BC. Long time ago. Not as old as Egypt, which has awesome mind boggling stuff, but still old. That Drake guy who has invaded Canada also uses that owl symbol.
 
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Not happening. KSA is very different from other Arab states like UAE and Qatar. In Saudi Arabia religious clergy still is very strong plus the tribes which don't like Al Saud are also very strong. Plus public in general are also not that ready to accept Israel.

I disagree. The religious clergy have been completely weakened in KSA. The so-called "Imam al-Ka'bah" just parrots whatever his government paymasters tell him. He has no independence. None of their Ulama do. The Ulama that did criticize Saudi policy did so very mildly but even they couldn't escape being arrested. They're still in prison. The religious clergy of KSA that are mainstream have never even cared about the Israel issue anyways. A few years ago Israel even invited the Grand Mufti of KSA to visit, but he politely declined.

The public of KSA also don't have strong feelings against Israel. The only reason KSA is hesitating or delaying normalization with Israel is because that will drive the Palestinians 100% into the hands of Iran.
But I say let the Palestinians be sacrificed. It's a small price to pay. Normalization with Israel is critically necessary.
 
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I just spoke of the significance of the symbol. You see what you see. I see what I see. People are not the same. Greeks used the owl symbol, thus fingers 90, since 800-700 BC. Long time ago. Not as old as Egypt, which has awesome mind boggling stuff, but still old. That Drake guy who has invaded Canada also uses that owl symbol.
We understand the Discrete Power of The Illuminati or Freemason symbolism and it Demystifying The Power of The Invisible Hand in Symbols. and symbols play an important for all celebrities who belong to this cults. Is this what you want to know. come to the point
 
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Not happening. KSA is very different from other Arab states like UAE and Qatar. In Saudi Arabia religious clergy still is very strong plus the tribes which don't like Al Saud are also very strong. Plus public in general are also not that ready to accept Israel.
Boss, you watch. Within next 5 years Saudia will ve kissing Israeli cheeks. UAE, Bahrain and rest would never have taken the step of hugging Israel if KSA had not winked "yes".

Note this post for future referance. In spirit KSA has already recognized Israel. You heard about Netanyu's meeting with MBS. All that remains is outing the relationship. Time is being given for the changed reality to sink in.
 
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