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KP energy body negates PTI chief’s claim of constructing 350 small dams

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1 : No numbers provided. Provide numbers to assess performance properly. E.g. If you increase your income from 10 to 20 then 100% improvement but if you increase your income from 1000 to 1200 the increase is only 20%. Who is better?
2: provide Source of information and the criteria. Provide education budget comparision/%. Provide spending per head
3: Copy of N league
4: Controversial. Allegation of currption
5: Evident by the cases in DI Khan and Kohat

Bro plz. visit this thread for info about Kp govt's performance in Health, Education and police etc. since 2013 with solid news sources, videos and pics.. check specially posts no. 1, 2, 3 and 10, there are other posts too like 22, 23, 29, 32, 33 etc. regarding performance but these 4 posts have detailed info...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/students-at-peshawar-govt-school-forced-to-study-on-the-roof.544483/
 
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:) parta ja or sharmata ja.

Bro abuse/accuse is an easiest thing to do, and at social media forums, its very easy to call names or abuse/accuse someone, right... there is no bravery in it...
The most lethal thing for an individual among others is cult following/blind following... it drags you far from reality, bars you from neutral and balanced analysis, makes you believe everything/anything comes out of the mouth of your ideal/idol, whenever one feel himself devoid of logic, he easily takes refuge behind abuse/accusation...
These are mere politicians, don't follow them blindly...try to be, aware of happenings around you, analyze and conclude with cool calm head and neutral mindset with all the proven facts on ground...
5 years are a long period to show your metal in a province...
so saying we are/were new or inexperience is a lame excuse...
This is a country not a training institute...
One can shut other people's voice via brute arrogance/accusations...but you can't impose/force your will upon others/voters, especially when you are factually wrong...
 
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Bro abuse/accuse is an easiest thing to do, and at social media forums, its very easy to call names or abuse/accuse someone, right... there is no bravery in it...
The most lethal thing for a person among others is cult following/blind following... it drags you far from reality bars you from neutral and balanced analysis, makes you believe everything/anything comes out of the mouth of your ideal/idol, whenever one feel himself devoid of logic, he easily takes refuge behind abuse/accusation...
These are mere politicians, don't follow them blindly...try to be, aware of happenings around you, analyze and conclude with cool calm head and neutral mindset with all the proven facts on ground...
5 years are a long period to show your metal in a province...
so saying we are/were new or inexperience is a lame excuse...
This is a country not a training institute...
One can shut other people's voice via brute arrogance/accusations...but you can't impose/force your will upon others/voters...

Bro I have been to KPK (abbotabad etc.) and I have not seen any difference. These guys do not deserve a province they should only run mahalla committees.
 
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Yes I can, PTI has come into power first time in KPK and even though
I think the work is slow paced but they are improving every institution.

KPK is the fastest growing economy in Pak with Punjab coming 2nd.
Education and Health budget has gone up and reforms being made.
Then you got the billion tree tsunami, the work is being done but they
are not doing what showbaz does roshan Pakistan on just advertisement.

KPK spends very less on advertisements compared to Nawaz/Showbaz.

you call this criticism :rofl:
 
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What an utter bakwas propaganda peice.

They pledged to make 350.
They didn't set a deadline.
They didn't claim to have finished them.
 
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you call this criticism :rofl:

No I don't call it criticism but some good points of what PTI has done in 5 years
that PMLN couldn't do in 30 years.

Bro I have been to KPK (abbotabad etc.) and I have not seen any difference. These guys do not deserve a province they should only run mahalla committees.

I have been to Lahore and there is no difference, even though they have ruled
for 30 years.

Bro abuse/accuse is an easiest thing to do, and at social media forums, its very easy to call names or abuse/accuse someone, right... there is no bravery in it...
The most lethal thing for an individual among others is cult following/blind following... it drags you far from reality bars you from neutral and balanced analysis, makes you believe everything/anything comes out of the mouth of your ideal/idol, whenever one feel himself devoid of logic, he easily takes refuge behind abuse/accusation...
These are mere politicians, don't follow them blindly...try to be, aware of happenings around you, analyze and conclude with cool calm head and neutral mindset with all the proven facts on ground...
5 years are a long period to show your metal in a province...
so saying we are/were new or inexperience is a lame excuse...
This is a country not a training institute...
One can shut other people's voice via brute arrogance/accusations...but you can't impose/force your will upon others/voters, especially when one is factually wrong...

I know 5 years is a long time but 30 years is even longer.
Remember the promise of Showbaz that he will finish load shedding
in 6 months?
Remember Nawaja's speech about Kachkol torain gay? He piled up
more debt than Zardari, Pak debts gone to 90 billion dollars. He also
mentioned bullet train, that is some of the sixers of Noora brothers.
 
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Why you do not post the promises of mujhai kyon nikala brothers? Tell me thier performance as well? Pagal shahbaz once said he will Finnish energy crises in 3 months?then 6 months and then 9 months but still we will face a huge crises this summer. What exactly nawaz shareef did in past 4 years? Shahbaz shareef used all fedral money to beautify lahore. Lahore se nikal kar zara punjab dekh lo tu pata chal jaye.
 
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I have been to Lahore and there is no difference, even though they have ruled
for 30 years.

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-Waste management system nazar nahee aaya ho ga
-Metro bus bhee nahee nazar a ee ho gee
-Orange train bhee nahee nazar aee ho gee
-Beijing underpass bhee nahee nazar aaya ho ga
-Arfa kareen software tower bhee nahee nazar aayaa ho ga
-E khidmat markaz bhee nahee nazar aa hon gay
- ring road bhee naee nazar a ee ho gee
waghera waghera

aap lagta ha haripur walay chota lahore chalay gaay ho gay jis ka main zikar kar raha tha:yahoo:
 
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I have been to Lahore and there is no difference, even though they have ruled
for 30 years.

-Waste management system nazar nahee aaya ho ga
-Metro bus bhee nahee nazar a ee ho gee
-Orange train bhee nahee nazar aee ho gee
-Beijing underpass bhee nahee nazar aaya ho ga
-Arfa kareen software tower bhee nahee nazar aayaa ho ga
-E khidmat markaz bhee nahee nazar aa hon gay
- ring road bhee naee nazar a ee ho gee
waghera waghera

aap lagta ha haripur walay chota lahore chalay gaay ho gay jis ka main zikar kar raha tha:yahoo:[/QUOTE]

When I read that I remembered this:
arguing-with-an-ignorant-fool-imam-ali-quotes-sayings-pictures.jpg
 
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-Waste management system nazar nahee aaya ho ga
-Metro bus bhee nahee nazar a ee ho gee
-Orange train bhee nahee nazar aee ho gee
-Beijing underpass bhee nahee nazar aaya ho ga
-Arfa kareen software tower bhee nahee nazar aayaa ho ga
-E khidmat markaz bhee nahee nazar aa hon gay
- ring road bhee naee nazar a ee ho gee
waghera waghera

aap lagta ha haripur walay chota lahore chalay gaay ho gay jis ka main zikar kar raha tha:yahoo:

When I read that I remembered this:
arguing-with-an-ignorant-fool-imam-ali-quotes-sayings-pictures.jpg
[/QUOTE]

Bhaag giya saala. Bhagohra.
 
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The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) Energy Development Organisation on Wednesday released documents which contradicted Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan’s claim of having constructed over 350 small dams in the province to put an end to power outages.

During a rally held in KhwazaKhela in 2014, Khan claimed, “We have initiated a plan to construct 350 small dams in KP during our tenure.”

The KP government had pledged to construct 356 dams in the province according to an 18-month plan. In contrast, the KP energy report showed that the provincial government had failed to complete the project before this year’s general elections. Construction activities were ongoing on 114 dams and the authorities concerned have not yet started work on 40 proposed dams.

According to sources, the PTI government could not show any documentary evidence to support its claims. They further said that even if all 356 dams were constructed, they would only be able to produce 35 megawatts of electricity to the national grid since a majority of these dams could only produce 5KV to 50KV electricity.


It is important to mention here that a majority of these projects were initiated without conducted mandatory geological surveys of the area where the dams were being constructed.

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Financial Officer Saeed Akhtar Chughtai, while talking to a private news channel, said, “Electricity produced from these dams would cost Rs 4.5 per unit tariff.” The PTI chief, on the other hand, had claimed that the provincial government would provide electricity to consumers on Rs 2 per unit.

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...-chiefs-claim-of-constructing-350-small-dams/

@Jinn Baba @Jf Thunder @Kabira @mkiyani @SmartGeek @Tameem @django @xyxmt @Muhammad Omar @volatile

"KPK will provide electricity to rest of Pakistan in 5 years" - Imran khan... Check video...

you do know that total civilan demand of KPK is less than 500MW
meaning 35 MW is upto 8-9% of population who were first without power
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now the accurate news is as follows
http://www.kpkep.gov.pk/future plan/Hyel Update of Energy.pdf
if govt open cite with names of all projects listed is not proof than what is it..
its job of media and opposition ot prove that these are ghost projects
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total hydro completed are 107 MW small and 35 MW from micro dams
this is achievement of govt with very limited funds and at war with most of projects refused at ECL with no hope for central funding or foreign funding/loans and other projects like munda dam foreign grantee withdrawn completely abolishing any chance after PC 2

other projects like bhasha dam and dasu completely ignored till last election year
 
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What an utter bakwas propaganda peice.

They pledged to make 350.
They didn't set a deadline.
They didn't claim to have finished them.

Deadline...


350 dams in KP?

By: Ghulam Idris Khan

PTI chairman Imran Khan claimed the other day in public meeting and later in press talk, that KP govt has been able to construct about 350 or more dams and is producing electricity at cheap rates than that generated by WAPDA.

In KP, the Pukhtunkhwa Energy Development Organiz-ation (PEDO) is major instrument for producing power from hydel, wind, solar and thermal sources. This organization was established in 1986, was made autonomous and named Sarhad hydel development organization in 1993. In 2013 it was named Pukhtun-khwa Hydel Development Organization (PHYDO). In 2014, through an act, it was made as Pukhtunkhwa Energy Development Organization (PEDO).

The KP govt energy department and PEDO have completed and operationalized ab-out five hydel projects since 1999. These projects were planned and worked started from 1999. The operation of Malakand 111 power house with the capacity of 81 MW started commercial functioning in November 2008. The Pehur power house started commercial operation in Mar-ch 2010. In Chitral, the power houses started commercial operation in 1999 and 2009. All this electricity generation was inducted in national grid during previous govt of MMA, ANP and PPP coalition govt. About 107 MW of power produced by these small dams w-ere contributed to national grid in KPK in previous reg-ime.

PTI is claiming that it has initiated work on 350 small dams in the province, but looking at the documents and the progress made by PEDO, it becomes clear that the work is still on paper. The tall claims either made by Chairman Imran Khan or CM Pervaz Khattak are far from reality.

Feasibility studies of these ongoing projects were also conducted during the last govt of PPP and ANP. These projects are located in Swat, Dir lower, Mansehra and Shangla.

One project is by the name of KOTO Hydropower project at Dir for which study was carried out in 1992. Progress on it was at snail’s pace, however in 2008 technical study was conducted by German agency, and the feasibility study was completed by M/S Associated Consultant Engineers (ACE) in 201. This also has not been completed to date.

The PTI govt projects are still on paper. It has identified some projects and divided them in three categories namely solicited sites (Feasibility studies carried out but no physical work started yet), semi raw sites (Feasibility studies in progress) and raw sites (Feasibility studies not even started). PEDO has earmarked six locations in the hilly areas of Dir, Mansehra, Chitral, Batagram and Shangla. According to PEDO website, their feasibility studies have been completed and physical work has not been initiated yet. Last month, in November 2017, the government was been able to issue letter of award to successful bidder for one of the projects.

PTI Chairman Khan while addressing a public meeting in 2014 in Swat announced that PTI-ruled government of KPK has launched 350 small dams which will generate cheap electricity for the people of Pakistan along with availability of irrigation water for the local farmers. He also claimed on record that electricity generation will be surplus and it will be “exported” to the rest of Pakistan. The Chief Minister of KPK Mr. Pervaz Khan Khattak claimed while signing agreement for generation of power that they will produce 1200 MW of electricity. The minister of power and energy went a step ahead and doubled the figure. But what is the position on ground? None of them will now come forward to answer that.

PEDO acts as an engine and main governing body for producing power in the KP. The government appointed Shahkil Durrani as Chairman Board of Directors for smooth functioning of the organization. Durrani, a retired civil servant, previously posted as Chairman WAPDA, sent his resignation to the government of KPK due to unsatisfactory state of affairs. A news report in a leading English newspaper claimed that Durrani’s resignation letter says that PEDO is “suffering from incompetence, lack of effective system and a dysfunctional organizational structure.” The letter also said that he tried a number of times to get matters redressed at the appropriate levels but found that “both the Minister for Energy Mr. Muhammad Atif and CEO PEDO Mr. Akbar Ayyub had a near total disinterest in improving matters. They wanted to retain arbitrary control.”

Durrani further stated that even the two dams initiated in the coalition govt of ANP and PPP namely Machai and Ronolia comlpleted in July 2015 are not generating power because the transmission lines have not been completed.

According to media report, Durrani disclosed that CEO has been authorized to draw salary of PKR 1.4 million per month. Other senior officers who were inducted by the present setup were allowed monthly salary of PKR 0.6 to 0.8 million per month. CEO is now seeking to further increase up 1.8 million per month. Durrani who had served as Chairman WAPDA disclosed that Chairman WAPDA gets PKR 0.6 million as monthly salary while members draw PKR 0.3 million per month. WAPDA is hundred times larger than PEDO.

PEDO CEO at that time, Mr. Akbar Ayyub, is a friend of Asad Umer, a member of National Assembly from Islamabad. The Peshawar high court had later shown the door and declared his appointment as illegal on petition filed by one of the employee of PEDO in June 2017. However, the govt of KPK tried its best to keep Akbar Ayyub on position by making amendments in the laws of PEDO Act 1993, that is changing the requirement for the post. Opposition members of KPK assembly strongly reacted to it, due to which he left the position under the court orders.

The other six member of the Board of Directors submitted resignations. The cause of their resignation as reported in the national press was that PEDO has become hub of the corruption.

It is important to note that how the affairs of the organization, responsible to produce energy (purely an engineering organization) were run thr-ough blue eye political nominee of the high ups of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf who appointed non-technical personnel selected on whim from private sector, which created mess and none of the project has been commissioned by them.

Now in KPK and in Peshawar particular, recent summer rains occurred, due to which some famous streets and localities were inundated, due to the drainage system, rain water flowed onto roads and ponds were formed. People jokingly called those streets as Hashtnageri small dam, Dabgeri and Lady Reading Hospital small dam. Locals tell each other that these are the dams of which PTI chief Imran Khan promised with the public. It is now a famous joke in Peshawar, whenever people see a small water pond of rain water, they call it a micro dam of Imran Khan and these are way more than the planned 350. People enjoy it as a joke the same way that of Billion Trees in KP.

https://thefrontierpost.com/350-dams-kp/
 
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When I read that I remembered this:
arguing-with-an-ignorant-fool-imam-ali-quotes-sayings-pictures.jpg

Bhaag giya saala. Bhagohra.[/QUOTE]

Only Maryam is good at running away, she is a bhagori and also Nawaz to Jeddah.

Deadline...


350 dams in KP?

By: Ghulam Idris Khan

PTI chairman Imran Khan claimed the other day in public meeting and later in press talk, that KP govt has been able to construct about 350 or more dams and is producing electricity at cheap rates than that generated by WAPDA.

In KP, the Pukhtunkhwa Energy Development Organiz-ation (PEDO) is major instrument for producing power from hydel, wind, solar and thermal sources. This organization was established in 1986, was made autonomous and named Sarhad hydel development organization in 1993. In 2013 it was named Pukhtun-khwa Hydel Development Organization (PHYDO). In 2014, through an act, it was made as Pukhtunkhwa Energy Development Organization (PEDO).

The KP govt energy department and PEDO have completed and operationalized ab-out five hydel projects since 1999. These projects were planned and worked started from 1999. The operation of Malakand 111 power house with the capacity of 81 MW started commercial functioning in November 2008. The Pehur power house started commercial operation in Mar-ch 2010. In Chitral, the power houses started commercial operation in 1999 and 2009. All this electricity generation was inducted in national grid during previous govt of MMA, ANP and PPP coalition govt. About 107 MW of power produced by these small dams w-ere contributed to national grid in KPK in previous reg-ime.

PTI is claiming that it has initiated work on 350 small dams in the province, but looking at the documents and the progress made by PEDO, it becomes clear that the work is still on paper. The tall claims either made by Chairman Imran Khan or CM Pervaz Khattak are far from reality.

Feasibility studies of these ongoing projects were also conducted during the last govt of PPP and ANP. These projects are located in Swat, Dir lower, Mansehra and Shangla.

One project is by the name of KOTO Hydropower project at Dir for which study was carried out in 1992. Progress on it was at snail’s pace, however in 2008 technical study was conducted by German agency, and the feasibility study was completed by M/S Associated Consultant Engineers (ACE) in 201. This also has not been completed to date.

The PTI govt projects are still on paper. It has identified some projects and divided them in three categories namely solicited sites (Feasibility studies carried out but no physical work started yet), semi raw sites (Feasibility studies in progress) and raw sites (Feasibility studies not even started). PEDO has earmarked six locations in the hilly areas of Dir, Mansehra, Chitral, Batagram and Shangla. According to PEDO website, their feasibility studies have been completed and physical work has not been initiated yet. Last month, in November 2017, the government was been able to issue letter of award to successful bidder for one of the projects.

PTI Chairman Khan while addressing a public meeting in 2014 in Swat announced that PTI-ruled government of KPK has launched 350 small dams which will generate cheap electricity for the people of Pakistan along with availability of irrigation water for the local farmers. He also claimed on record that electricity generation will be surplus and it will be “exported” to the rest of Pakistan. The Chief Minister of KPK Mr. Pervaz Khan Khattak claimed while signing agreement for generation of power that they will produce 1200 MW of electricity. The minister of power and energy went a step ahead and doubled the figure. But what is the position on ground? None of them will now come forward to answer that.

PEDO acts as an engine and main governing body for producing power in the KP. The government appointed Shahkil Durrani as Chairman Board of Directors for smooth functioning of the organization. Durrani, a retired civil servant, previously posted as Chairman WAPDA, sent his resignation to the government of KPK due to unsatisfactory state of affairs. A news report in a leading English newspaper claimed that Durrani’s resignation letter says that PEDO is “suffering from incompetence, lack of effective system and a dysfunctional organizational structure.” The letter also said that he tried a number of times to get matters redressed at the appropriate levels but found that “both the Minister for Energy Mr. Muhammad Atif and CEO PEDO Mr. Akbar Ayyub had a near total disinterest in improving matters. They wanted to retain arbitrary control.”

Durrani further stated that even the two dams initiated in the coalition govt of ANP and PPP namely Machai and Ronolia comlpleted in July 2015 are not generating power because the transmission lines have not been completed.

According to media report, Durrani disclosed that CEO has been authorized to draw salary of PKR 1.4 million per month. Other senior officers who were inducted by the present setup were allowed monthly salary of PKR 0.6 to 0.8 million per month. CEO is now seeking to further increase up 1.8 million per month. Durrani who had served as Chairman WAPDA disclosed that Chairman WAPDA gets PKR 0.6 million as monthly salary while members draw PKR 0.3 million per month. WAPDA is hundred times larger than PEDO.

PEDO CEO at that time, Mr. Akbar Ayyub, is a friend of Asad Umer, a member of National Assembly from Islamabad. The Peshawar high court had later shown the door and declared his appointment as illegal on petition filed by one of the employee of PEDO in June 2017. However, the govt of KPK tried its best to keep Akbar Ayyub on position by making amendments in the laws of PEDO Act 1993, that is changing the requirement for the post. Opposition members of KPK assembly strongly reacted to it, due to which he left the position under the court orders.

The other six member of the Board of Directors submitted resignations. The cause of their resignation as reported in the national press was that PEDO has become hub of the corruption.

It is important to note that how the affairs of the organization, responsible to produce energy (purely an engineering organization) were run thr-ough blue eye political nominee of the high ups of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf who appointed non-technical personnel selected on whim from private sector, which created mess and none of the project has been commissioned by them.

Now in KPK and in Peshawar particular, last summer rains occurred, due to which some famous streets and localities were inundated, due to the drainage system, rain water flowed onto roads and ponds were formed. People jokingly called those streets as Hashtnageri small dam, Dabgeri and Lady Reading Hospital small dam. Locals tell each other that these are the dams of which PTI chief Imran Khan promised with the public. It is now a famous joke in Peshawar, whenever people see a small water pond of rain water, they call it a micro dam of Imran Khan and these are way more than the planned 350. People enjoy it as a joke the same way that of Billion Trees in KP.

https://thefrontierpost.com/350-dams-kp/

What about Nawaja's fake promises? remember Kachkol torain gay
aur tahir e lahoti? what happened he took out 40 billion in loans. Pakistan
debt has gone to 90 billion. What about bullet trains? lol

Remember Showbaz's promises? he will finish load shedding in 6 months
and bring back Zardari's money? what happened? Now he is promising the same
thing again, only a jahil will vote these crooks.
 
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