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Kerry defends sale of F-16 jets to Pakistan

Kerry is good guy know what game played by india but it not going to last more
 
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I have few "White", "Blacks" and South American friends and they tell me their perception towards Pakistan is totally changed to positive after meeting me. And I promise I'm not making anything up..

That is what is the key factor. There are also Pakistanis who have done social security frauds, credit card scams and/or been to jail more than a few times for sexual harassment. Then there are those that cry to CAIR but disrupt US military recruitment processes and even preach Jihad in implicit behind closed doors.

It depends from person to person, but my general impression is that pre 90's most Pakistanis that came here were of the well educated and upstanding background types. After than, a load of trash came in that overtook the usual intake of educated.

That trash has US citizenship but wont vote, refuses to participate in the community and tends to form isolated areas. They are no different from the Trash that is in England in areas like Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester and East London among others.

The ownership of Trash isnt exclusive to Pakistanis I will add, but we started with them so...
 
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That is what is the key factor. There are also Pakistanis who have done social security frauds, credit card scams and/or been to jail more than a few times for sexual harassment. Then there are those that cry to CAIR but disrupt US military recruitment processes and even preach Jihad in implicit behind closed doors.

It depends from person to person, but my general impression is that pre 90's most Pakistanis that came here were of the well educated and upstanding background types. After than, a load of trash came in that overtook the usual intake of educated.

That trash has US citizenship but wont vote, refuses to participate in the community and tends to form isolated areas. They are no different from the Trash that is in England in areas like Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester and East London among others.

The ownership of Trash isnt exclusive to Pakistanis I will add, but we started with them so...

Partially agreed!

I was a little kid in 90's. We moved to United States not very long ago when I was in my late teens.

So Yea, I agree with the part that it varies from person to person.
 
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I have few "White", "Blacks" and South American friends and they tell me their perception towards Pakistan is totally changed to positive after meeting me. And I promise I'm not making anything up.

So I think it's also the population of Pakistanis living inside the United States. Most Pakistanis in US are doing great as they focus on education and find advanced careers but still many are buried in stone age mentality which takes them no where. And no I'm not saying forget your culture, ethnicity, roots or religion but don't go extereme.

I agree with your post.

why don't Pakistani americans run a campaign in their towns/states to make local gora people aware of Pakistan and to remove all the negativity they hold in their mind due to media.

We need to do something in this regard....urgently and quickly.
 
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why don't Pakistani americans run a campaign in their towns/states to make local gora people aware of Pakistan and to remove all the negativity they hold in their mind due to media.

We need to do something in this regard....urgently and quickly.

Hi,

The problem is not us---the problem is you in pakistan who screws up things----. We have been running these campaigns for long---that is why you see so much support.

If it was upto full fledged pakistanis----you would be screwed real hard by now.
 
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why don't Pakistani americans run a campaign in their towns/states to make local gora people aware of Pakistan and to remove all the negativity they hold in their mind due to media.

We need to do something in this regard....urgently and quickly.

We Americans of Pakistani ethnicity are doing as much as we can but obviously we cannot call a black color anything other than black, can we? The main responsibility lies in Pakistan on the shoulder of Pakistanis who are blindly following those so called religious groups.

Another point that I would like to make is that many Pakistanis tend to view America in the same perspective as India, which is simply absurd. Pakistan and India have serious political issues such as IOK, etc. There is no such issue with America.
 
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US to go ahead with F-16 sale, says State Department
Anwar Iqbal — Updated about 2 hours ago



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WASHINGTON: The US State Department on Friday defended the decision to sell F-16 aircraft to Pakistan and endorsed Islamabad’s position that the planes were being used in counter-terrorism operations.

In a separate statement, the Pakistan Embassy in Washington appreciated the Obama administration’s determination to go ahead with the proposed sale.

The deal, however, is facing stiff resistance in the US Congress where lawmakers have moved resolutions both in the House and the Senate, seeking to block the sale.

“We support the proposed sale of eight F-16s to Pakistan to assist Pakistan’s counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations,” said a State Department spokesperson Helaena W. White.

“Pakistan’s current F-16s have proven critical to the success of these operations to date,” she added, endorsing Pakistan’s position that it had effectively used its existing fleet of F-16s in counter-terrorism operations.

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India, and some US lawmakers, have rejected this claim, saying that the F-16s have not been useful in such operations and would ultimately be used against India.

But Ms White noted that the operations Pakistan was conducting in Fata with the help of F-16s, “reduce the ability of militants to use Pakistani territory as a safe haven for terrorism and a base of support for the insurgency in Afghanistan.”

She also noted that “these operations are in the national interests of Pakistan, the United States, Nato, and in the interest of the region more broadly.”

Ms White said that the administration was “committed to working with Congress to deliver security assistance to our partners and allies that furthers US foreign policy interests by building capacity to meet shared security challenges.”

A spokesman for the Pakistan Embassy, Nadeem Hotiana, pointed out that the US administration had already notified Congress of its ‘determination’ to sell F-16s to Pakistan. “The public notification clearly articulates the reasons for the prospective sale,” he added.

“We appreciate the public assessment of the US leaders in response to Congressional enquiries that Pakistan has used F-16s effectively against terrorists and the subject sale is also intended to strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to continue the ongoing operations,” the embassy said.

The statement noted that the proposed sale would help strengthen Pakistan’s counter-terrorism capacity under a mutually agreed defence cooperation framework .

US lawmakers have until March 12 to block the sale but they have acted promptly, introducing two resolutions in the House of Representatives and the Senate this week.

Both resolutions urge the administration not to sell these planes and other weapons to Pakistan.

On Thursday, the head of a powerful Senate committee called for a detailed hearing on the proposed deal, arguing that it was not the right time to sell weapons to Pakistan.

The developments may cast a long shadow on the sixth session of the US-Pakistan Strategic Dialogue, scheduled on Feb 29.

Former Republican presidential candidate Senator Rand Paul introduced a joint resolution in the Senate on Wednesday, seeking to block the sale of F-16 fighter jets and other military hardware to Pakistan including eight Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites and 14 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems.

“While we give them billions of dollars in aid, we are simultaneously aware of their intelligence and military apparatus assisting the Afghan Taliban,” said Senator Paul in the resolution, which has now been sent to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, who actively seeks to disintegrate Pakistan, moved another joint resolution in the House of Representatives.

“The government of Pakistan has been using weapons from the US to repress its own citizens and especially the people of Balochistan,” said the lawmaker while introducing the resolution.

“The deciding factor of whether to support this Joint Resolution is, for me, the arrogant and hostile actions taken by the government of Pakistan against the man (Dr Shakil Afridi) who helped bring Osama bin Laden to justice,” Mr Rohrabacher said.

Another former Republican presidential candidate, Senator John McCain, however, said that it was a difficult issue as both India and Pakistan were important for the United States.

Published in Dawn, February 27th, 2016
 
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A good news for us and thank you kerry.
When they apply sanctions against you to debar using these aircraft in the event of a war with India, then the news won't be that good! :P
 
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I have few "White", "Blacks" and South American friends and they tell me their perception towards Pakistan is totally changed to positive after meeting me. And I promise I'm not making anything up.

So I think it's also the population of Pakistanis living inside the United States. Most Pakistanis in US are doing great as they focus on education and find advanced careers but still many are buried in stone age mentality which takes them no where. And no I'm not saying forget your culture, ethnicity, roots or religion but don't go extereme.

I agree with your post.
Golden words. Don't forget your roots but also look toward and progress. Being in the U.S as a Pakistani obviously there are some challenges but all ill perception of the American public can be dissuaded easily by just getting engaged with the community.

There will always be criminal and fraudulent contributors from our community but that's every community. But we can take solace in the fact that a vast, vast majority of the Pakistanis in the US are honest, hardworking people. We just have to get them involved with the America society so they're not isolated and shut away from the rest.

But I think with time even that can be remedied. I.e. the kids of these folks that are born here will be more involved with the America way of life than their parents were. They will be More educated, will have better jobs and more financially secure.

It's a slow and gradual process but I think the Pakistani community in the U.S will be very socially successful and will progress a lot . In just the circle of my extended family we have two young doctors, my youngest brother is in med school now and my oldest niece starts law school next year.
 
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Hi,

The problem is not us---the problem is you in pakistan who screws up things----. We have been running these campaigns for long---that is why you see so much support.

If it was upto full fledged pakistanis----you would be screwed real hard by now.

Yes. I agree. Pakistanis, here, still unable to understand the American mind and still don't know how to work with Americans professionally........We are just too emotional and short sighted.....

Thank you and all Pakistani Americans who are holding our flag there, presenting our real good face in US. :tup:

:pakistan::usflag:
 
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those F16s are sold to pakistan so it is OK,I hope the americans sell some more if it is to pakistan.
I am glad to see a powerful pakistan a rich pakistan.
pakistan will be strong.
 
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Gentlemen.....

John Kerry is clever Fox---- He is staunchly defending this Sale.But remember John Kerry is an Astute Negotiator as well.
Just be Careful,Uncle Sam might ask your Fingers in Return............

Thee is Nothing Like Freebie(s)
 
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Dont worry we have now enough fingers now infact artifical limbs :P
Gentlemen.....

John Kerry is clever Fox---- He is staunchly defending this Sale.But remember John Kerry is an Astute Negotiator as well.
Just be Careful,Uncle Sam might not ask your Fingers in Return............

Thee is Nothing Like Freebie(s)
 
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