Kayani shot down coup call?

[lem34]

"Complex issues" tend to get buried during military rule, only to come out later.

I don't see why the P.A. should not at all times assumed to be guilty until proven innocent.

usual crap from mr zion lova. thats what americans really feel that pakistan, its army, isi, its people are guilty until proven guilty. Their hypocracy knows no bounds. Perhaps we should apply this principle to america and its people?

 

[r3alist]

So people in Pakistan are prone to stealing from themselves??? Make sense R3

Ofcourse, corruption and theft of money means one set of pakistani's are depriving other pakistani's the benefit of the money/resources being stolen.

Other than that, I don't understand your logic, privatisation will mean foreign investment, since there's no real industry/companies in Pakistan to do major projects.

And so how exactly will foreign control if resource and funds help Pakistan, it's one set if looters to another.

 

[muse]

Ofcourse, corruption and theft of money means one set of pakistani's are depriving other pakistani's the benefit of the money/resources being stolen.

Other than that, I don't understand your logic, privatisation will mean foreign investment, since there's no real industry/companies in Pakistan to do major projects.

And so how exactly will foreign control if resource and funds help Pakistan, it's one set if looters to another.

A free economy is a very complicated proposition, it requires and creates a free society - as for investment, the largest investors in Pakistan are always Pakistanis, these Pakistanis have now moved their capital to the Gulf and elsewhere

Privately held economy means that the people own the economy - not government bureaucrats and not politicians --- and contrary to your suggestions people who own their assets do not steal from themselves.

However, I think your objection is primarily that private individuals would be empowered, and that is a legitimate concern, for you.

 

[r3alist]

Can you explain how an open economy will make an open society?

And is your motivation increasing human development or having this utopian free society??

I am not actually against this idea, I question your motives because you seem so cavalier, it needs more debate, I agree in principle that privirization can help, but only to an extent.

Relying on the trickle down effect will do nothing to halt inequality, some good government planning is needed, tax collection is a big challenge for Pakistan.

 

[muse]

Tax collection is a government or governance problem, not a problem associated with a free economy - In fact, in a free economy, the need for greater transparency (as in a measure of certainty with regard to policy, procedures and near future as criteria for investment) actually brings the issue of tax collection into the awareness of the public and the awareness by itself creates the demand for action.

A more free society, utopian? Sure if US and Europe and Japan and even China are engaged in a utopian enterprise, then sure, we would be in good company - You ask what my "motives are? fair enough, my motives are to see greater economic activity, greater wealth in the hands of private individuals, a more robust economy allowing greater numbers of Pakistanis the opportunity to create lives of dignity - can you handle that? Are those good for Pakistan?

How does a free economy create a free society? Do you realize that a free economy also creates freer individuals and more free conscience?? How? By creating choices for free individuals to avail, by creating lives of DIGNITY, choices with regard to their children's education, choices about their life chances, choices about the kinds of ideas they find persuasive and seek to associate with.

Anyway - don't worry about motives, be concerned with whether it's good for Pakistan or not. Good, bad, right and wrong, these are the criteria to evaluate propositions such as a free economy, it;s relationship to a free society and a transparent and effective delivery of government services..

 

[mughaljee]

Peoples of Pakistan,
Corrupt politicians peoples of Pakistan they choose them, now they are suffering but even in worst conditions (Flood, Dengue, Karachi, Frontier, Baluchistan) if they are thinking again choosing the same peoples, then who is wrong,
Politicians or Peoples of Pakistan.
Deferentially Peoples of Pakistan.

So bring new blood new honest peoples and who's have not land or money out of country, i hope then some thing could change.