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[ambidex]

Security force's intercepted telephone calls and intelligence sources also confirms that people are hired for money to do all those violence on the streets.

These only hurt poor people and govt of Kashmir.

Kinetic, this is not new and GoI knows it very well from many years. You only have to stab one kashmiri youth to gather anti Indian Professionals out on the streets. Unfortunately It has became world wide phenomenon for Muslims to create bad PR against so called kafirs.

I would like to request Indian members not to pronounce them as protesters but trained professionals.

Someone is playing dirty here and putting timely fuel to keep valley burnt. There are manufacturing units running and producing well trained/deceptive terrorists for anti India activities (the Infiltration is only one way towards India till today). (Links at request).

The same can be done in Pakistan controlled territory by Indians, Pakistan controlled Kashmir is in peace because of India and Indian Kashmir in trouble because of Pakistan's so called polico-moral support.

India's role here is reactionary as far as offencive operations are concerned. It is only at the call of these ever changing strategists cum terrorists the GoI is sending troops in.

Kashmir is an Integral part of India by Indian constitution and if someone is still underestimating the power of union of Indian then it is sheer nonsense by part of them.

We have concerns for kashmiris from either side of LOC. we understand that only Kashmiris and Indians are going to suffer ultimately not Pakistan for sure.

It is only because of covert continuity of support by outside elements; the valley superficially appears unrest otherwise, India has brought about peace way before 2003 by eradicating all grievous elements/supplies/network with high potential of causing sophisticated attacks in Kashmir. Now they are desperate and gone to the level of stone pelting. Also Hurriyat has shown its intentions of dialogue with centre (not the first time though, before Mr. Abdul Gani lone was killed by anti Indian elements when peace process was Initiated).

Today Pakistan is retrospecting its self from head to toe like a wet hen for what went wrong. Thier policy makers are ranting day and night to discuss what is happening in all states. Only Punjab state has offered a list of 17 out law outfits those whom were an asset to raise Jihad in Kashmir. They are blind like bat when they talk about Indian misery in Kashmir but are hysterically confused about what is happening against them by their own people.

The history is greatest mathematician and at the very first morning of peace in Kashmir the so called numbers of dead in Kashmir will be divided in between India and Pakistan and i am sure that number of dead counts will go higher towards Pakistan's share; overwhelmingly.
And trust me they will not accept the responsibility like they did after creating Taliban ( by politico moral support), now blaming USA for that, only after WOT.

Regards

 

[Devil Soul]

You think they'd stand a chance even if did change their numbers. You think we won't have thought of that? Don't be childish.

yup why would they knowingly use cell phone even thou being aware of the fact that all cell phone conversations r being monitored ... be realistic .... ok now since u guys have a proof why don't u go after them & use the same intercepted message against them in court ...

 

[Guynextdoor]

u must be kidding??? PA is in barracks in Kashmir while ur army is having a flag march on the streets of illegally held Kashmiri territories..... look at the problems u guys created by not abiding by the UN resolutions on Kashmir

There's probably no PA in *** at all...what with the bulk of your forces strectched across Swat and all the other WOT zones. Besides, who's scared of the PA anyways (that's a different topic to be taken elsewhere)

As per the agreement between Jinnah, Mountbatten & Congress, the decision to accede toIndia or Pak was the discretion of the rulers alone and was in no way dependent upon any other factor. Jinnah agreed to it coz he thought that Muslims would automatically accede to pak. When he saw the huge amount of territorial loss that he got because of this misjudgement, he decided to put up a fight for one of the territories in which the ruler, till THEN had not acceded. But since that action itself made him accede to India, all that land automatically comes to India.(Including *** which should have ideally been returned at least by 1971).

 

[Guynextdoor]

yup why would they knowingly use cell phone even thou being aware of the fact that all cell phone conversations r being monitored ... be realistic .... ok now since u guys have a proof why don't u go after them & use the same intercepted message against them in court ...

High likelihood we'll go after these professionals and high likelihood it won't be in a court of law.

 

[Aegis]

which type of vehicle is that??? looking good..

 

[Markus]

'Churchill was as much a statesman as my armchair' & moin ansari is as much a historian as my toilet seat (I know where you got that quote from)

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[Ammyy]

Anyways this deployment of Indian army in IOK is good in the sense that we might hear about some hot suicide news in the future.

well may be you can ....
But in case of Pakistan Army ...Taliban dnt give chance to even suicide them ???
right ???

 

[gubbi]

So Indian army has always been the final line of defence against riots.

FYI, IA is not trained in riot control tactics. Infact it actually fares worse than the local police, but what works in IA's favor is the fact that people, both fear and respect IA.

Of course in this case the Indian Army is probably more feared than the Indian police by those same rioters.

Corrected that for ya.

and you are welcome


The point if anyone missed, is that IA is feared whenever it is deployed in trouble prone areas. And now with the Army out for a 'Flag March / Show of Force' in Srinagar, one can sense a feeling of utter hopelessness among the separatists and their 'moral' supporters and a sense of pride among the Indians.

How many armed forces can carry out such a peaceful show of force in territories their countries lay sovereignty claims on?

 

[civfanatic]

What Kashmiris want we have seen in general elections. There are many more Kashmiris other than those on streets.

arundhati roy said something against India and this became a news for you!!!! i didn't know that she became that 'famous'!!! as arundhati roy said against India govt, she became an angel!!!!

The ironic thing about the so called elections is that among major centers of current protests ie srinagar , sopore , barramull and islamabad (kashmir ) except for islamabad the ruling NC has won all seats . So how come NC government has no political prescence to stop protests from occuring . The fact is that elections were manipulated and inflated.

 

[Ammyy]

Stone pelting a lucrative business in Kashmir valley, mastermind arrested

Stone pelting mastermind arrested; protests turn a business

Press Trust Of India
Srinagar, February 05, 2010

Police on Friday arrested a person, alleged to be the kingpin of stone pelters in Kashmir valley, and claimed to have found documents, which suggest this had fast turned into a lucrative ‘business’ for unemployed youths offering their ‘service’ for a price.

Police had launched a massive drive against stone pelters in the valley and their investigations led to a house in Bemina colony on outskirts of the city after which they found several documents suggesting his involvement in stone- pelting business for nearly last two years, official sources said in Srinagar today.

The arrested person identified as Irshad Ahmed was interrogated by the police which recovered dozens of SIM cards, threat letters, fake press identity cards, cheque books and well maintained account registers which state the expenditure for stone pelting incidents in various parts of the valley.

The first register contained 294 names along with their photographs and mentions the details of money paid to them for their stone pelting actitivies in the last one year in downtown city, the sources said.

Police claimed to have recovered sketches of roads leading from Ganderbal to Leh, a route used by army personnel to maintain essential supplies to Ladakh division, they said.

Stone pelting becomes lucrative business in Kashmir valley
PTI February 5, 2010

Srinagar: Stone pelting in Kashmir valley appears to be fast turning into a lucrative ‘business’ for some unemployed youths offering this ‘service’ for a price.

Several youths are also operating ‘stone pelting’ cartels funded by separatist organisations and some political parties, sources said today, adding business worth lakhs of rupees is usually generated through this activity.

Details in this regard came out during extensive interrogation of a stone pelter arrested by the Jammu and Kashmir police over a period of last three days.

Separatist groups especially those owing allegiance to Pakistan-terror outfit Hizbul Mujahideen and Lashker-e-Taiba are alleged to have formed several groups comprising a minimum of dozen people, sources in the interrogation team said.

These groups are paid a hefty amount ranging between Rs5 to Rs8 lakh, they said, adding a part of this money is handed over to another group known as “initiators” who pick up stones and start pelting on police and para-military forces — sometimes on trivial issues.

The groups, which are alleged to have been receiving funds from a political party as well, have stationed their people invarious localities and other districts of the Valley, the sources said. This could be the reason for stone pelting incidents occuring in a synchronised manner throughout the valley during agitations and protests, they said.

The sources said while the exact amount of money being pumped into the stone-pelting business was yet to be estimated, it could be running into lakhs of rupees.

Adding to the woes of policemen were protestors making use of stones and buildingmaterial kept by government agencies on roads for constructionactivities, the sources said.

The Government should ensure completion of work within a time frame as otherwise these materials would come handy for the stone pelters, they said.

Stone pelting becomes lucrative business in Kashmir valley
PTI Friday, February 5, 2010

Srinagar: Stone pelting in Kashmir valley appears to be fast turning into a lucrative ‘business’ for some unemployed youths offering this ‘service’ for a price.

Several youths are also operating ‘stone pelting’ cartels funded by separatist organisations and some political parties, sources said today, adding business worth lakhs of rupees is usually generated through this activity.

Details in this regard came out during extensive interrogation of a stone pelter arrested by the Jammu and Kashmir police over a period of last three days.

Separatist groups especially those owing allegiance to Pakistan-terror outfit Hizbul Mujahideen and Lashker-e-Taiba are alleged to have formed several groups comprising a minimum of dozen people, sources in the interrogation team said.

These groups are paid a hefty amount ranging between Rs5 to Rs8 lakh, they said, adding a part of this money is handed over to another group known as “initiators” who pick up stones and start pelting on police and para-military forces — sometimes on trivial issues.

The groups, which are alleged to have been receiving funds from a political party as well, have stationed their people invarious localities and other districts of the Valley, the sources said. This could be the reason for stone pelting incidents occuring in a synchronised manner throughout the valley during agitations and protests, they said.

The sources said while the exact amount of money being pumped into the stone-pelting business was yet to be estimated, it could be running into lakhs of rupees.

Adding to the woes of policemen were protestors making use of stones and buildingmaterial kept by government agencies on roads for constructionactivities, the sources said.

The Government should ensure completion of work within a time frame as otherwise these materials would come handy for the stone pelters, they said.


Stone pelting a lucrative business in Kashmir valley, mastermind arrested Islamic Terrorism in India


thts the reality of protest

 

[Ammyy]

Stone pelting mastermind arrested; protests turn a business in Valley

Police on Friday arrested a person, alleged to be the kingpin of stonepelters in Kashmir valley, and claimed to have found documents, which suggest this had fast turned into a lucrative 'business' for unemployed youths offering their 'service' for a price. Police had launched a massive drive against
stone pelters in the valley and their investigations led to a house in Bemina colony on outskirts of the city after which they found several documents suggesting his involvement in stone- pelting business for nearly last two years, official sources said in Srinagar today.

The arrested person identified as Irshad Ahmed was interrogated by the police which recovered dozens of SIM cards, threat letters, fake press identity cards, cheque books and well maintained account registers which state the expenditure for stone pelting incidents in various parts of the valley.

The first register contained 294 names along with their photographs and mentions the details of money paid to them for their stone pelting actitivies in the last one year in downtown city, the sources said.

Police claimed to have recovered sketches of roads leading from Ganderbal to Leh, a route used by army personnel to maintain essential supplies to Ladakh division, they said.

Stone pelting mastermind arrested; protests turn a business in Valley - Hindustan Times

 

[brain_dead]

well done indian army , we are with u always. , crush the bloody traitors.

 

[ice_man]

There's probably no PA in *** at all...what with the bulk of your forces strectched across Swat and all the other WOT zones. Besides, who's scared of the PA anyways (that's a different topic to be taken elsewhere)

As per the agreement between Jinnah, Mountbatten & Congress, the decision to accede toIndia or Pak was the discretion of the rulers alone and was in no way dependent upon any other factor. Jinnah agreed to it coz he thought that Muslims would automatically accede to pak. When he saw the huge amount of territorial loss that he got because of this misjudgement, he decided to put up a fight for one of the territories in which the ruler, till THEN had not acceded. But since that action itself made him accede to India, all that land automatically comes to India.(Including *** which should have ideally been returned at least by 1971).

a newbie alert!!

here we go again brainwashed little indian ranting total nonsense!!

go read this forum on the "issues you rainsing" and according to your logic of LEADER decides the fate of there people HYDERABAD should have been independant & jungadh should have been part of pakistan!!!

 

[RescueRanger]

I will complete this sentence.
So What? She is one of the most RETARD mentality in India.And thanx to democracy, she is still alive.

And your username is Break the Silence...

So much for freedom of speech.

 

[Devil Soul]

High likelihood we'll go after these professionals and high likelihood it won't be in a court of law.

Human right record in IOK pretty much point to the same approach taken by IA.