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[dvk_1982]

all indians are up against an intellectual lady, who just supports the human roghts in kashmir..

but what the fuuck is that creature called nadeem f paracha is to some pakistanis and most indians???? and whythey like his disgusting views??, is he not traitor to pakistan?? and why is he worshipped by indians..

in this thread i have seen most of pakistan condemning her, but will the indians show such moral while post another of his disgusting marvels??, i dont think so

its not just abt kashmirirs... she trys to claim a high ground by supporting maoists , or for that matter any rebel..... becoz she believes and for some gud reasons the govt. of india is a farce.

But the problem is when there is no education and development, people will suffer in despise. U can't industrialize without land, agreed there will be corruption but thats no excuse to not encourage industrialization becoz thats the source for employment and maoists are against it. Coming back to her support for kashmiri freedom, we dont need these doves and self acclaimed intellectuals who are more idelogy centric

 

[dvk_1982]

Ah come on Sri, your Hindutva side is coming out clearly. There are many allegations levelled against him. But BJP effectively protected him by making several deals with Congress. Latest scandal about an encounter (where home minster is accused) is rumored to have been settled with congress by letting nuclear liability bill go through.

and how abt ur pseudo-secularist beliefs ? how can congress claim to be better than bjp when it was under them sikh riots happened, emergency was imposed, kashmiri pandits in the order of 1/2 a million became refuges in their own country and vote bank politics by trying to please in terms of caste, religion and what not. U may disown even congress but they seem to stand for secularism and this is what they can offer.

u may defend them but the matter of the fact is we got sooo much used to corruption and vote bank politics that we no longer recognize it as a menace or as a sin. The day when Arundati roy defended killing of our poor police forces by maoists, i started hating her. (if u dont know dig her interviews on ndtv , this year)

It has become a fashion to label somebody as hindutva in a negative light just becoz somebody sided with BJP here on PDF.

 

[KS]

Ah come on Sri, your Hindutva side is coming out clearly.

Have I anytime said,I am not a Hindutva follower ?? .But wait Hindutva according to me is a way of life,a concept that has been there for thousands of years - not the new found meaning espoused by our "media".

There are many allegations levelled against him. But BJP effectively protected him by making several deals with Congress.

Anything proved ?? Indian constitution says Innocent until found guilty.So ppl,dont become judges yourselves.

Latest scandal about an encounter (where home minster is accused) is rumored to have been settled with congress by letting nuclear liability bill go through.

If you are talking about Sohrabuddin Sheikh it was Amit Shah and not Modi.

Or if it was the Ishrat Jahan case,

Ishrat Jahan was an LeT suicide bomber: Headley to NIA

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

Seeing Kashmir Without Indian Glasses​

By AHMED QURAISHI

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—For too long India misled the international community on Kashmir, claiming Kashmiris were eager to share in India’s economic prosperity and that Pakistan was holding them back by infiltrating terrorists to spread mayhem.

Two good things happened that India did not anticipate. It even welcomed one of those two things not knowing what was coming down the road.

First, former Pakistani president Musharraf ordered all Pakistan-based Kashmiri groups to cease support for their kin in Indian-occupied Kashmir. This he did in 2004 as an exaggerated gesture of goodwill to make new peace talks with India a success. The Indians dragged the peace talks and rendered Musharraf’s effort a failure. But they were jubilant nevertheless at this unilateral concession from Pakistan. What they didn’t know is that something will happen five years down the road that will set New Delhi’s Kashmir policy fifty years back.

This is where the second good thing happened. In 2009, slowly the Kashmiris began coming out on the streets in mass protests. This unnerved more than half a million Indian soldiers crammed into the tiny occupied territory. Indian soldiers were used to confronting hardened Kashmiri freedom fighters. Ordinary Kashmiris provided the fighters all kinds of support but avoided direct clashes with the Indian military. Thanks to Indian soldiers going overboard in the organized **** of women as a tool of punishment, June 2009 saw the outpour of Kashmiri anger against the 63-year-old Indian occupation. It was even bigger than 1989, when Kashmiris began an armed struggle against the occupation. There were other triggers attributed to Indian arrogance, like gifting Kashmiri land to build Indian religious temples.

By summer 2010, this turned into what many now call the Kashmir Intifada, likening it to the Palestinian resistance against Israeli occupation.

I remember a time when Pakistanis used to be rebuffed when they tried to make this comparison. Not anymore. Take a look at the 29 Oct. 2010 Foreign Policy magazine online cover [seen above]. The world is taking note of the courage of unarmed Kashmiris, men, women and teenagers facing off a large organized force.

Not just that. The world is also beginning to question why India is persecuting fair-minded Indians like novelist Arundhati Roy who questions India’s unnecessary occupation of a land and people who are not Indian and do not want to be Indian.

See this slideshow prepared by Foreign Policy magazine. It doesn’t roundly condemn Indian atrocities, not yet at least. But considering the past, it is three-steps forward for the Am-Brit media, and hopefully the beginning of a trend that might help reduce Pakistani hostility to American double standards in the region.

Pak1stanFirst-Seeing Kashmir Without Indian Glasses | Politics

 

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[Ammyy]

Hindus and Sikhs from India should move back to India and not seek to create a mini India inside Kashmir.

Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims already living in India include J&K.

 

[Hafizzz]

India decides not to book Arundhati Roy with sedition
India decides not to book Arundhati Roy with sedition | The Australian

INDIA has decided against prosecuting award-winning author and activist Arundhati Roy for sedition after she spoke out about the disputed region of Kashmir.

Roy, winner of the Booker award for her novel The God of Small Things in 1997, is a fierce critic of India's tactics in Kashmir, where protests against New Delhi have claimed more than 100 lives since June.

She shared a stage with hardline Kashmiri separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani last week and backed the idea of "azadi" or freedom for Kashmir, leading New Delhi police to look into charging her with sedition.

But the police have been instructed to "avoid pursuing the issue and consider it as a closed chapter", said a senior official in the Indian interior ministry last night. "No criminal case has been registered against her. Therefore, there is no question of slapping sedition charges."

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The Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party objected to Roy's remarks, calling them "seditious" and demanding legal action against her.

Kashmir has been beset by violence, curfews and strikes since early June, when a 17-year-old student was killed by a police teargas shell. Since then, 111 protesters and bystanders have died.

A poll published last month showed that a majority in Muslim-majority Indian Kashmir favoured independence for their region.

Glad that Roy is not charged for speaking the truth (Freedom of speech).

 

[Jade]

Why make a hero out of a Zero. Good move GOI

 

[Hulk]

Posters in Srinagar ask Hurriyat to review its agitation - Hindustan Times

Posters appeared in the commercial hub of Lal Chowk and Residency Road in Srinagar city carrying a two-day ultimatum to hardline Hurriyat Conference to review its decision on continuing protest bandhs indefinitely.
Hundreds of posters issued in the name of hitherto unknown Jammu and Kashmir Islami Ittehad outfit appeared on the walls and shutters of shops in the city.
"The Hurriyat Conference should announce by October 31 as to who is calling the shots in Kashmir. Who should we listen to -- Hurriyat or stone-pelters?" the outfit asked.

The poster is apparently in response to incidents of stone-pelting in some parts of the Valley even on the days when the Hurriyat led by Syed Ali Shah Geelani suspends strikes and protests.

It said if the Hurriyat failed to respond by tomorrow, the situation in Kashmir will take a new turn from November 1 and all the responsibility will fall on the separatists.

"The benefits derived out of strikes and protests over the past four months are unemployment, destruction and bleak future for Kashmiri nation," it said.

The outfit urged the Hurriyat to consider the economic condition of the people before giving calls for strikes.

It also claimed that only a handful of stone-pelters were creating law and order problem in the Valley for their petty and personal interests.

"There are only 100 to 125 stone pelters who wait for deterioration of situation so that they can indulge in loot. There has been an incident in Zakura where they snatched jewellery from a woman," the outfit said.

It said unscrupulous elements were using social networking sites like Facebook to spread "lies" and "rumours" about non-existent atrocities committed by security forces.

"A few days back, they spread rumours about **** of a woman in Palhalan, which turned out to be a lie later on. However, it caused disturbances at many places in the Valley," the outfit said.

Eyewitnesses told PTI that the posters were pasted in the city in the wee hours on Saturday but most of these disappeared within hours. Police officials said they were aware about the development but refused to comment on it.

 

[gubbi]

Glad that Roy is not charged for speaking the truth (Freedom of speech).

How does being ignored translate to victory?

 

[somebozo]

Pandits living in migrant camps want a mini India created in Kashmir, so that they could return home.

Same tactic which was used in Bangladesh as "bengali nationalism" and in sikkim!

 

[LaBong]

You mean victory for Indian Democracy right?

 

[AR]

Glad that Roy is not charged for speaking the truth (Freedom of speech).

if it is then I can say it is the greatest misuse of that right....

freedom of speech dont give right to speak against your national integrity..

here we demand GOI to take serious actions against her

 

[Hulk]

Who is putting these posters?

 

[somebozo]

Strategic co-op with India is overlapped by Muslim first and limited to business links only. For the arabis, the defense and strategic affairs remains limited to Pakistan as the closest ally!

All i can say is, the Arabis are cooking something. Saudis have special affection to the northern tribal of Pakistan due to centuries of close relations. Just look at how many "khans" are present in Saudi forces.