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‘Kashmir can go to Pakistan’ : Sardar Patel

they are from Jammu, i do not have total picture , i just visited there for few days, i told you what i know.
If you have any plans to visit Jammu in Future do inform me................You will be my Guest...............
 
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Whatever it is, everyone can wish and hope for anything they want. But the reality is Kashmir has been split into 3 pieces among 3 different countries. Nobody can demand our piece and it will not get independence. If anyone wants such, they go to the other two areas located in foreign countries. Keep it moving....it is ours. We Indians have already bent over and given too much....no more. Saif Quadaffi and any other Muslim country or group can mind their own damn business. Worry about yourself and the minorities in your nations.......keep your nose out of our business.
 
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Sounds like an Indian wet dream.

The law of the universe also applies to India too you know. There is a community of people in Kashmir who absolutely hate your guts because what you have made them go through at the expense of fueling your egos for the last 60 years. Muslim folk are known to hold grudges for a very very long time.

Indian wet dream , yes, financed by Saif Al Gaddafi and conducted by a reputed UK institute. Stay detached from reality nad have a happy next 10 years , just like the last 10. ciao
 
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An independent Kashmir is better than Indian occupied Kashmir. That status is realistic and i'll be a supporter of that.

If Pakistan can improve its economy, and lives of people, it will boost it's chances...

keep on trying for time eternity...it is not going to happen for a million years.....do you think India will become weak economically and militarily....the best chance for pakistan should be to just mind their own business...think about solving the chaos and mess in their own country and make it peaceful and not poke their noses in matters of own sovereign nations whether Afghanistan, India or anyother....and the neighbourhood would become a better place...mind you the day would come when everybody would become fed up Uncle Sam included and that would be the end of pakistan...if you keep on meddling in other people's affairs(i am talking about non-state actors and your terrorists too)
 
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My impression is that had Pakistan been patient it would have got Kashmir automatically. India could not have conquered it, nor could a Hindu maharaja have ignored the composition of the population, which was predominantly Muslim. Instead, an impatient Pakistan sent tribesmen along with regular troops to Kashmir within days of independence.

While it’s true that Nehru was keen on Kashmir’s accession to India, Patel was opposed to it. Sheikh Abdullah told me in an interview later (February 21, 1971) that Patel argued with him that as Kashmir was a Muslim-majority area it should go to Pakistan. Even when New Delhi received the maharaja’s request to accede to India, Patel said: “We should not get mixed up with Kashmir. We already have too much on our plate.”

Nehru’s anxiety (on this issue) was clear from his letter to Patel (September 27, 1947), three days before Kashmir’s accession to India: “Things must be done in a way so as to bring about the accession of Kashmir to the Indian union as rapidly as possible with the cooperation of Sheikh Abdullah.” Nehru wanted Indian forces to fight against the Pakistan tribesmen and others advancing in the Valley. It was Mountbatten who asked Nehru to get the instrument of accession signed first before sending troops.

From the very outset, the maharaja’s preference was for independence. Failing that, he wanted a merger with India. His fear in relation to the second alternative was that with Nehru at the helm of affairs, he would be reduced to a mere figurehead, and Sheikh Abdullah would be the one with real power. When Patel, otherwise close to the maharaja, suggested that he should “make a substantial gesture to win Sheikh Abdullah’s support”, the maharaja knew his fate was sealed.

Mountbatten later told me that Patel had agreed to let Kashmir go to Pakistan if the state so wished. “By sending its irregular troops into the state, Pakistan spoiled the whole thing,” added Mountbatten. He was, however, worried that Nehru’s Kashmiri ancestry would lead him to unwise decisions. (Nehru is reported to have confessed to a British officer: “In the same way as Calais was written on Mary’s heart, Kashmir is written on mine.”)

However, Pakistan could not wait. Kashmir had always been a part of the concept of Pakistan and the letter ‘K’ in its name stood for Kashmir. As the Pakistan minister for Kashmir affairs said in 1951, and this has been repeated by many ministers to this day, “Kashmir is an article of faith with Pakistan and not merely a piece of land or a source of rivers.”

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I have same

The effort of Pakistan to take Kashmir by force was it's biggest mistake, as it created room for Indian intervention

And another thing which ill suited Pakistan -as this and several other articles suggest-was Nehru was PM of India that time and he wanted to have Kashmir at any cost
 
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Yaraane jahan kehte hay Kashmir hay jannat

Jannat kisi Kafir ko mili ha, Na mile gi

What do U really mean of Kafir. The Hate theory of Quran is really create disputes. I think Quran and Bible have some similarity, though I have not gone through the Bible. None where in Quran its stated that, Kafir be killed. Even in None Surah it is stated like that. moreover I think all three religions are believed (Hindu, Muslim, Christian) that there is one Great Sole (u may say it is eaither Allah, God, Ishwar, Bhagwan). who made us all. If one do not believe in Quran does it mean that, such human is wrong.

I think only one god create us all and so we all have equal eye, legs, head (headache), and other body parts. I have never seen a muslim with three legs, four eyes, capacity to fly. means the god needs all as equal, and treated them equally. the question is If one Hindu (or as per your say "kafir", though this word is not given with any hate, muslims are the people who believe to create hate by using this word) is not drinking, and other muslim person is drinking who should be better. Muslim is not a symbol, If u not follow Quran strictly how u could be Muslim? moreover if your answer is u ask allah to pardon u. how much time u made a mistake and ask for pardon. In India Muslim boys always teasing Hindu Girls, Does Islam Quran permit for it?)

Considering all things and by going through Gita as well as Quran, I strongly believe that, the God is only one who created us. and the Best religion of us is Humanity. Islam does not say to not to respect other religion and by do hate kill all non muslims. if some Muslim is said so its required to sent him at Mental Hospital.
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Moreover "Islam and Muslims are seems two side of the coin, Both are the Opposites" (one say right and other interpret it wrong.)

The Fight between India and Pakistan is for the "Kasmir", so dont Include the religion in it. its nothing but the lust of land which make both country to war. dont give the issuse of border a religion touch which is not necessary.

I personally believe that, there are three different parts of J & K. One is Kasmir where Muslim Population is highest, Second is Jammu where the population of the Hindu is highest and third is Ladakh where Buddhas are highest. Considering the policy of 1947 applied with the "Bangladesh - Bengal" that majority part of the muslim shall go to Pakistan the claim for "Kasmir" could be stand. I believe the demand of kasmir for the pak is not a illicit or Illegal or Base less Demand, though As an Indian the authority shall have power to take all decision, I personally believe that by giving Kasmir (Subject to accept by Pak and leave rights for Jammu and Ladakh, based on above rules, and subject to acceptance by people of kasmir we should have to left kasmir).
 
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