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Karzai vs Northern Alliance
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Musa Khan Jalalzai

Political developments in northern Afghanistan, and some commanders’ alliance against the US-backed Karzai regime is expected to be converted into a new ethnic war. In Baghlan province, the United National Front has warned Karzai that if the government tried to sideline Mujahideen leaders they will wage war against it.

On December 17, 2007, former Northern Alliance commander and Defence Minister Marshal Fahim and Ahmad Zia Massoud criticised President Karzai for sidelining former Mujahideen leaders. Ahmad Zia Massoud is the Vice-President of Afghanistan. He is the younger brother of Ahmed Shah Massoud. However, before their warning to the government, President Karzai had allegedly criticised the Northern Alliance for its secret dealings with some neighbouring countries. ‘’They have received money from abroad and they want to destabilise my government,’’ Karzai said.

Many Afghans since the fall of the Taliban regime in 2001 had pinned their hopes on the new parliament to tackle the present division and political rivalries, but their hopes vanished after they saw senior Northern Alliance war criminals and rights abusers of the past in the present parliament. Afghans know that the new parliament is a combination of warlords and war criminals, who do not want the establishment of an intelligent Afghan state and rule of law. It is widely believed that the new parliament is one of the most controversial assemblies in the world history.

The Northern Alliance recently warned President Karzai that he was running risks if he did not change his policies regarding former Mujahideen leaders and commanders. “We know that President Karzai must correct his policies otherwise relying on some American guards he will face consequences,” said General Fahim. A power struggle between President Karzai and the Northern Alliance has turned into a serious confrontation, raising concerns within the country and abroad of a violent split in the fragile government. Thus, in the north, former commanders of the Northern Alliance are meeting each other to finalise their war strategy against the Karzai regime. Visits and consultations across the border with the Central Asian States and Russian military experts are underway. To avoid his arrest, speaker of the Afghan parliament and former interior minister Yunus Qanooni ran away to London.

According to Andrew Cochran, the most egregious example of Qanooni’s true intentions came earlier this year, when he championed a bill to provide amnesty for anyone who has committed war crimes in the last 25 years. Yunus Qanooni, Cochran says, has been termed as a human rights abuser and war criminal by Human Rights Watch. Qanooni’s leading role in the United National Front, a motley cabal of warlords, ex-Communists and politicos dissatisfied President Karzai. During his election campaign, President Karzai revealed the fact that Yunus Qanooni and some of his American friends were running private jails where innocent people, especially Pashtuns, were being tortured. Qanooni was elected in the 2005 Afghan parliamentary elections. Since the presidential election he has generally been seen as the spokesman of the Northern Alliance, but was largely sidelined after the 2004 presidential election. Qanuni has formed an alliance of several parties called the Jabahai Tafahim Millie or National Understanding Front.

Fahim, Qanooni and other Panjsheri warlords believe their role in defeating the Taliban has earned them the right to control Afghanistan’s defence establishment. Panjsheris warlords dominate the defence, interior and foreign ministries, as well as the intelligence and police. Attah Mohammad, the northern militia commander and war criminal, is closely allied with Fahim. General Dostum is preparing his own army in the north for his future fight against the Northern Alliance. Dostum was, however, betrayed by one of his subordinates and his mini-state in the north was overrun by the Taliban in 1998. By the spring of 2001, Dostum had reunited his followers in the inaccessible Hindu Kush Mountains and, with Ahmad Shah Massoud’s support, returned from exile to lead them against the Taliban.

Experts in London believe there are political and ethnic rivalries within the Afghan government. Some critics, including non-Panjsheri officials in several ministries in the past were convinced that Fahim and his cohort had planned to systematically reduce the power of Pashtuns, and ultimately split the country on an ethnic basis. Experts say the problem of ethnic division is an old threat to the unity of Afghanistan and the ambitions of Northern Alliance warlords are a far greater threat to the stability and peace of the country. Already facing a rising Taliban insurgency in the south, Karzai can ill-afford to raise the ire of warlords who still control formidable militias. Human rights groups, along with many ordinary Afghans, want the setting up of a special court to charge war criminals.

Afghanistan remains one of the most mine and unexploded ordnance-infested countries in the world today, according to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). It has even issued a warning to Afghan children not to play with the unexploded yellow canisters of cluster bombs. Each month, more than 100 Afghans are killed or wounded by landmines and unexploded ordnance.

The opium and heroin produced from the poppy crops in Afghanistan generate three billion dollars a year. Warlords use much of these funds to buy politicians, tribal leaders and gunmen. About half of this figure goes to farmers growing poppies. Afghanistan now has more than 265,000 smugglers, dealers and cultivators. In the north, nearly eight percent women are taking opium and other drugs while this ratio is higher among males. The security situation in the country is assessed by most analysts as having deteriorated at a constant rate through 2007, the report compiled by the Kabul office of the UN Department of Safety and Security said.

Foreign fighters are not only bolstering the ranks of the insurgency. They are more violent and uncontrollable. In addition to growing insecurity in the country, which has claimed the lives of some 2,000 people this year, harsh drought conditions have resulted in some 2.5 million people facing an imminent food crisis. The Taliban have regrouped rather well along the Afghan countryside, particularly in provinces in the Pak-Afghan border. Unsurprisingly, violence is significant near the Pakistan border. The subversion that targets Afghan provinces close to Pakistan, like Paktika, is a reality despite the fact that Islamabad has deployed approximately 80,000 troops on their side of the border.

The writer is the author of 156 books on terrorism, extremism, human trafficking, Afghanistan, drug trafficking and foreign policy studies and is based in London, UK
 
both karzai and northern alliance hate pakistan I don't care if they destroy each other .Time to seal the border right now.
 
Perhaps neither cares much for Pakistan, but I doubt Pakistan would like to see the Northern warlords in complete control if they manage to oust Karzai.
 
Perhaps neither cares much for Pakistan, but I doubt Pakistan would like to see the Northern warlords in complete control if they manage to oust Karzai.

I guess your right still imo either way pakistan wins since they both hate pakistan whichever one wins it'll be a gain 2 anti-pak elements will be down to one.
If the northern alliance wins maybe the taliban will turn their attention to fighting them since they hate each other to instead of pak army could shift the fighting away from pak back into afghanistan and shift some of the pressure of us.Pak should stay away and let them fight it out helping them has only given us their hatred in return.
 
I think we ought to evict every single Afghan national from our country and that includes FATA. Then seal the border, put up fence, mines or anyother thing to seal the border. Then should but all relationships with Afghanistan. We have always shown them love, but for 60 years they have only tried to destroy Pakistan. This Paktoonitan thing was their idea, they wanted the NWFP to join Afghanistan when the British left but instead the NWFP decided to become a part of Pakistan. We have done them so many favor but they always curse at us, they have allowed their territory to be used for anti-Pakistan activities such as hosting Al-Zulfikar and now RAW. Why should we care what happens to them, we have our own problems to worry about. And I think it is time we warn them and if they dont stop what they are doing, we should do to them what Turkey is doing over Norther Iraq.
 
I think we ought to evict every single Afghan national from our country and that includes FATA. Then seal the border, put up fence, mines or anyother thing to seal the border. Then should but all relationships with Afghanistan. We have always shown them love, but for 60 years they have only tried to destroy Pakistan. This Paktoonitan thing was their idea, they wanted the NWFP to join Afghanistan when the British left but instead the NWFP decided to become a part of Pakistan. We have done them so many favor but they always curse at us, they have allowed their territory to be used for anti-Pakistan activities such as hosting Al-Zulfikar and now RAW. Why should we care what happens to them, we have our own problems to worry about. And I think it is time we warn them and if they dont stop what they are doing, we should do to them what Turkey is doing over Norther Iraq.

I don't really agree with this internet notion. I suspect the Pakhtoonistan proposal is by a handful of nationalists in Afghanistan, as it is for the handful of nationalists in Pakistan. You've also got to stop thinking of Afghanis as one way thinkers. They all think differently, and there's many different Afghani ethnic groups, all of them having differing levels of loyalty to particular countries. It's a fact the Tajiks politically hate Pakistan, it's a fact the Uzbeks hate it. Aside from the Pashtun nationalists in Pakistan I doubt Afghani Pashtuns have much hate for Pakistan. Of course Tajik Afghanis have their own loyalty to the Farsiwan people, and you shouldn't be so impulsive to believe that the thinking of all these different groups is the same.
 
Perhaps neither cares much for Pakistan, but I doubt Pakistan would like to see the Northern warlords in complete control if they manage to oust Karzai.

I would prefer this situation that they oust Karzai. He is just a pawn, a cloak to give the Northern Alliance dominated government control of Afghanistan. If Karzai goes, the true face of a Northern Alliance government will be shown. I'm all for transparency.
 
I don't really agree with this internet notion. I suspect the Pakhtoonistan proposal is by a handful of nationalists in Afghanistan, as it is for the handful of nationalists in Pakistan. You've also got to stop thinking of Afghanis as one way thinkers. They all think differently, and there's many different Afghani ethnic groups, all of them having differing levels of loyalty to particular countries. It's a fact the Tajiks politically hate Pakistan, it's a fact the Uzbeks hate it. Aside from the Pashtun nationalists in Pakistan I doubt Afghani Pashtuns have much hate for Pakistan. Of course Tajik Afghanis have their own loyalty to the Farsiwan people, and you shouldn't be so impulsive to believe that the thinking of all these different groups is the same.

I agree with you RR but in this scenario, it will only be wise to sit and watch rather to start supporting the Pushtons in Afghanistan thou it is obvious that they donot have much reason for hating Pakistan.
 
“We know that President Karzai must correct his policies otherwise relying on some American guards he will face consequences,” said General Fahim.

Big words from General Fahim (Tajik) :pop:
 
Sir, remember General Fahim family live in Pakistan and frequently travel Pakistan. He knows both side conditions.
 
I don't really agree with this internet notion. I suspect the Pakhtoonistan proposal is by a handful of nationalists in Afghanistan, as it is for the handful of nationalists in Pakistan. You've also got to stop thinking of Afghanis as one way thinkers. They all think differently, and there's many different Afghani ethnic groups, all of them having differing levels of loyalty to particular countries. It's a fact the Tajiks politically hate Pakistan, it's a fact the Uzbeks hate it. Aside from the Pashtun nationalists in Pakistan I doubt Afghani Pashtuns have much hate for Pakistan. Of course Tajik Afghanis have their own loyalty to the Farsiwan people, and you shouldn't be so impulsive to believe that the thinking of all these different groups is the same.

I used to be like that but now I disagree .I have seen on various places the hate all afghans have for pakistan they don't just want nwfp they want to see pakistan destroyed when the pak army and security forces being killed all they rejoice and praise it I have even seen them claim they don't consider pakistanis to be muslims.India is not pakistan's biggest enemy afghanistan is.
Karzai's own family live in pak he got married there yet he hates us so imagine the rest.
I totally agree with mujahideen on this issue.
 
I used to be like that but now I disagree .I have seen on various places the hate all afghans have for pakistan

Where would these "various places" happen to be? If it is internet forums or chats, then you should reconsider your sources! A real Afghan will not have access to a computer..so how do you know how they think unless you have been there and surveyed a large enough sample of people?

Believing an internet forum character claiming to be an Afghani is tantamount to an admission of a healthy dose of naivity and gullibility! I, as you know, am pure Malawian!
 
Where would these "various places" happen to be? If it is internet forums or chats, then you should reconsider your sources! A real Afghan will not have access to a computer..so how do you know how they think unless you have been there and surveyed a large enough sample of people?

Believing an internet forum character claiming to be an Afghani is tantamount to an admission of a healthy dose of naivity and gullibility! I, as you know, am pure Malawian!

Well I have been in close contact with Afghans for a big portion of my life. And I can tell you they hate Pakistan, they dispise us, they hate our guts and would do anything to destroy us. Where I lived in New York a good majority of my neighbors were Afghans. After 9/11 they started to hate us even more they use to just curse Pakistan and Pakistanis and Pak Fauj. Now every time they would curse Pakistan I would ask them where did they get their refugee status and how did they come to the U.S. Now I think everyone should know this that 95% of Afghans abroad refugees who came through Pakistan. I use to ask them an their refugee papers it says the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, I use to ask them if we are so evil why did you use us? Another example of how much Afghans hate Pakistan is that near my house their use to be a mosque and it was run by Afghans. Believe me they would not let us pray in the mosque, they use to say Pakistanis are infidels, but this case went to court and we were allowed to pray in the mosque and even then they use to treat us with disrespect. Another example of their hate towards us is that as I mentioned before most Afghans came through Pakistan and it is a fact all of them speak know how to speak Urdu. They would never talk in Urdu with us, but with Indians they would talk in Urdu(Hindi). When I use to ask them why they dont speak in Urdu with us they use to say we dont know Urdu we speak Hindi. The Afghans are still mad because at the time of independence FATA and the Frontier voted to join Pakistan and not Afghanistan and from their they started this Paktonistan movement along with the help of India. In 1951 the had our beloved Laiquat Ali Khan assassinated. They also were host to anti-Pakistan elements such as Al-Zulfikar and now they play host to RAW. For all we have done for them they literally hate us. They hate it that we are so much powerful and important then they are. Believe me they hate us, I know it, I have heard and seen their hate.
 
^^If your evidence is based on your experiences in the US, how exactly can you know what people in Afghanistan are thinking? I mentioned amongst the various ethnic groups in Afghanistan there were broad differences in their loyalties which are based on cultural, linguistic, and ethnic affiliations. This holds true for the people of Afghanistan. Since most Afghanis who went to the US are of the Tajiki-Afghan background (based on Taliban persecution or alleged), then you are experiencing a minority of one ethnical viewpoint, from the many different ethnical viewpoints in Afghanistan. What I'm saying is totally different to what you're saying. It would not make economic sense for an Afghan Pashtun, who does most of his trade in the NWFP to want NWFP to join with Afghanistan in the state that it's in, because it would ruin their businesses. There's plenty of evidence why it's not logical for an Afghan Pashtun to dream of Pakistan splitting up, because it would end up being detrimental for themselves. The same doesn't apply to Tajik-Afghans, and I haven't a clue what this "they only speak Urdu with Indians" is. I honestly think you're inventing this, or are just some paranoid post pubescent schoolkid basing fact on hearsay, because it doesn't make any sense to me. Why would an Afghani speak Urdu with Indians, but not with Pakistanis? I have never come across this scenario, but if you have come across it, perhaps they just don't like you personally?

Also I'll have to correct you. The NWFP did not have the choice of "choosing Pakistan over Afghanistan" as you put it. NWFP had the choice of choosing India over Pakistan, but chose the latter. Your understanding of this situation is very basic, and based on fiction it seems.
 
mr roadrunner mujahideen is right I've met afghans who have told me pakistan is an artificial state and that pakistanis aren't real muslims to them,they heavily encourage and praise all the seperatist and anti-pakistan organizations in our country.They HATE pakistan i'm not exaggerating real deep rooted hate they don't just want land from us they want us to wiped off the map.Karzai is a perfect example of this a man who fled to our country who got married there and keeps his family living there because afghanistan is too unsafe yet spits venom at pak every chance he gets ,if u want more proof go to an afghan site too u will see the hatred most of them have tell them you are pakistani and they will spit on you just because you are pakistani.We are blinded by this brotherly nonsense we think just because both are muslim countries they support us and we should defend and care about them when in reality they do not care about us at all and are very happy to see us destabalized.I think they were the only country to vote against us in the UN at our birth also can u name one thing afghanistan has ever helped us in ? I have been saying this for a long time afghanistan is our biggest enemy we need to focus our military forces less on india and more on the border regions and shut afghans out completely .Leave them and let them deal with their own problems it would be better to not burden ourselves with other's problems and deal with our own first.
 
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