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Karachi turning into a new Beirut, says French political scientist | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD, Feb 20: Political violence, ethnic divide and militant organisations being patronised by political parties is turning Karachi into the new Beirut, according to a visiting French political scientist.

Laurent Gayer, a French political scientist, who is writing a book “Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City,” that will be published by Hurst and Oxford University Press this year, made these observations during a lecture here on Wednesday.

The Centre for Research and Security Studies (CRSS) hosted the scholar.

He said though the metropolitan city was facing multiple menaces in the form of lawlessness, targeted killings, sectarian strife for quite some time, de-regularisation of Bhatta mafias within political parties and entry of new competitors in the arena had made the life of the city’s industrial community simply hellish.

Quoting his interviews with some people belonging to the business community of Karachi, Mr Gayer said although they had been paying protection money for the last two decades, coercion for money from more than half a dozen entities had become simply unbearable.

Many of them (businessmen) are planning to shift their business either to Middle Eastern countries or Bangladesh, the researcher quoted them as saying.

In his findings, the researcher also likened Karachi with Mumbai in terms of social leadership, where local political parties had their fully armed militant wings.

But the nature of violence increased with the influx of arms from the Afghan war, he said.

Karachi city at the moment was awash with the most modern weaponry, which political parties across the board were using against each other, said the writer.

According to the French political scientist, violence in Karachi was not existential but instrumental.

Mr Gayer said the proliferation of political armed groups started in 2007, linking it with the involvement of Awami National Party (ANP) and Aman Committees of the PPP.

He said that all socio-religious and political parties were increasingly using violent means in order to make their presence felt, which had made the metropolitan city simply ungovernable.

“The way how violence is transforming is very difficult for people to handle. Weapons are used indiscriminately in which civilians lose their lives, the last few years saw extremely important transformation of violence,” he remarked.

Karachi’s situation, he said, had become more violent after the involvement of Sunni Tehrik and Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), which besides fighting for its own turf, were also pitched against each other.

The MQM, which was initially more focused against the ANP, was now facing a new challenge in the form of Taliban — found in various pockets of the city, said the writer.

The Taliban, according to the author had been using the city, not only for generation of money through kidnapping for ransom but also for recuperation of its injured and tired members.

Analysing the changing demography of the city, the French political scientist argued that the Sindhi population was increasing and the Urdu speaking community were no more in the majority.

“The pre-violence history of Karachi shows that clustering of Karachi happened after shifting of people from mixed areas but groupings started on the basis of ethnic, linguistic and sectarian basis. Hegemony of MQM is increasingly under threat which it is wrongly trying to project as Talibanisation of the city” he underlined.

During the question-answer session, Mr Gayer said that since the government machinery was directly involved in extortion, killings and other criminal acts, there was absolutely no chance of any improvement in governance of the city in the near future.

Mr Gayer has also collaborated with Mr Christophe Jaffrelot in two books, which include “Armed Militias of South Asia: Fundamentalists, Maoists, and Separatists” and “Muslims in Indian Cities: Trajectories of Marginalisation,” both published by Hurst/Columbia University Press.

His first single-authored book, “Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City,” will be published by Hurst and Oxford University Press in 2013.

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PPP, MQM and ANP with their militant wings are turning our great city into a graveyard.
 
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Karachi turning into a new Beirut, says French political scientist | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD, Feb 20: Political violence, ethnic divide and militant organisations being patronised by political parties is turning Karachi into the new Beirut, according to a visiting French political scientist.

Laurent Gayer, a French political scientist, who is writing a book “Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City,” that will be published by Hurst and Oxford University Press this year, made these observations during a lecture here on Wednesday.

The Centre for Research and Security Studies (CRSS) hosted the scholar.

He said though the metropolitan city was facing multiple menaces in the form of lawlessness, targeted killings, sectarian strife for quite some time, de-regularisation of Bhatta mafias within political parties and entry of new competitors in the arena had made the life of the city’s industrial community simply hellish.

Quoting his interviews with some people belonging to the business community of Karachi, Mr Gayer said although they had been paying protection money for the last two decades, coercion for money from more than half a dozen entities had become simply unbearable.

Many of them (businessmen) are planning to shift their business either to Middle Eastern countries or Bangladesh, the researcher quoted them as saying.

In his findings, the researcher also likened Karachi with Mumbai in terms of social leadership, where local political parties had their fully armed militant wings.

But the nature of violence increased with the influx of arms from the Afghan war, he said.

Karachi city at the moment was awash with the most modern weaponry, which political parties across the board were using against each other, said the writer.

According to the French political scientist, violence in Karachi was not existential but instrumental.

Mr Gayer said the proliferation of political armed groups started in 2007, linking it with the involvement of Awami National Party (ANP) and Aman Committees of the PPP.

He said that all socio-religious and political parties were increasingly using violent means in order to make their presence felt, which had made the metropolitan city simply ungovernable.

“The way how violence is transforming is very difficult for people to handle. Weapons are used indiscriminately in which civilians lose their lives, the last few years saw extremely important transformation of violence,” he remarked.

Karachi’s situation, he said, had become more violent after the involvement of Sunni Tehrik and Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), which besides fighting for its own turf, were also pitched against each other.

The MQM, which was initially more focused against the ANP, was now facing a new challenge in the form of Taliban — found in various pockets of the city, said the writer.

The Taliban, according to the author had been using the city, not only for generation of money through kidnapping for ransom but also for recuperation of its injured and tired members.

Analysing the changing demography of the city, the French political scientist argued that the Sindhi population was increasing and the Urdu speaking community were no more in the majority.

“The pre-violence history of Karachi shows that clustering of Karachi happened after shifting of people from mixed areas but groupings started on the basis of ethnic, linguistic and sectarian basis. Hegemony of MQM is increasingly under threat which it is wrongly trying to project as Talibanisation of the city” he underlined.

During the question-answer session, Mr Gayer said that since the government machinery was directly involved in extortion, killings and other criminal acts, there was absolutely no chance of any improvement in governance of the city in the near future.

Mr Gayer has also collaborated with Mr Christophe Jaffrelot in two books, which include “Armed Militias of South Asia: Fundamentalists, Maoists, and Separatists” and “Muslims in Indian Cities: Trajectories of Marginalisation,” both published by Hurst/Columbia University Press.

His first single-authored book, “Karachi: Ordered Disorder and the Struggle for the City,” will be published by Hurst and Oxford University Press in 2013.

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PPP, MQM and ANP with their militant wings are turning our great city into a graveyard.

you should ask why talibans were deliberately allowed to come into karachi, this whole menace going far beyond the comprehension of your tiny brain

but you know what?

PPP and taliban will be kicked back to their rat holes in FATA and interior sindh before long now
 
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you should ask why talibans were deliberately allowed to come into karachi, this whole menace going far beyond the comprehension of your tiny brain

but you know what?

PPP and taliban will be kicked back to their rat holes in FATA and interior sindh before long now

how.......??
 
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you mean that one of the political parties will kick another party out of the city through forceful means..... who have given MQM this right to do?

i already said if rangers and police doesnt do this job

its was no one other than MQM who shouted for taliban and wahabi invasion from the north, so its MQM's right to cler this mess

and because MQM is the only original stake holder of the city and knows how to fight these scum
 
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i already said if rangers and police doesnt do this job

its was no one other than MQM who shouted for taliban and wahabi invasion from the north, so its MQM's right to cler this mess

and because MQM is the only original stake holder of the city and knows how to fight these scum

Then according to this method, the mess should have been cleared by now... but isn't.... dude this will not lead to anywhere but more blood being spilled.... and if mqm continued with this sense of thinking.... it will be disastrous for mqm and politics of karachi as a whole.... because if the new govt really wants to move the economy... karachi is where it all starts.... so they have to sort out things here.
 
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Then according to this method, the mess should have been cleared by now... but isn't.... dude this will not lead to anywhere but more blood being spilled.... and if mqm continued with this sense of thinking.... it will be disastrous for mqm and politics of karachi as a whole.... because if the new govt really wants to move the economy... karachi is where it all starts.... so they have to sort out things here.

so what do you suggest my dear lord, should we be brothers to head chopping terrorist taliban to move our economy forward

do we tolerate talibans making tribal area in karachi and move us 200 years backwards?

will taliban even tolerate pak economy to go ahead after how much damage they have made to pak economy through suicide bombs and all?

please speak your thoughts elaborating your opinion please
 
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so what do you suggest my dear lord, should we be brothers to head chopping terrorist taliban to move our economy forward

do we tolerate talibans making tribal area in karachi and move us 200 years backwards?

will taliban even tolerate pak economy to go ahead after how much damage they have made to pak economy through suicide bombs and all?

please speak your thoughts elaborating your opinion please

first off lets just differentiate between the taliban and militant wings of political parties, i agree with all what you said in the post.... and who doesn't agree on this.... BUT the difference is that taliban are mostly in very few localities and i think if you depoliticize the police and give free hand to rangers.... they will finish the job...... but now comes the hard part.....how to deal with the political parties that have been active and now have gone to an intolerable extent. This is where there is a real conflict..... and the solution to it is to accept everyone's mandate.
 
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first off lets just differentiate between the taliban and militant wings of political parties, i agree with all what you said in the post.... and who doesn't agree on this.... BUT the difference is that taliban are mostly in very few localities and i think if you depoliticize the police and give free hand to rangers.... they will finish the job...... but now comes the hard part.....how to deal with the political parties that have been active and now have gone to an intolerable extent. This is where there is a real conflict..... and the solution to it is to accept everyone's mandate.

my dear kya rangers jhak maar rahe he 5 saal se? why didnt they fnish taliban before?

ganja will never like to move forward without LeJ, TTP, its his brain child infact
 
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agar itnay dehsatgard thay ttp aur baki tanzimon kay tu

kia mqm aur ppp aur anp anpany karkun marwati rahi muft mayn

ye tenon parties tu tribal area mayn operation ki sab say bari hami then

tu karachi mayn kyun police yan army say operation nae karwaya


courts indicate political parties involvement,the agencies has said that karachi has more weapons than waziristan,ppp vs mqm vs anp press conferences blaming each other for killing,sahi syed saying we will kick muhajirs back to were they come from mqm saying pathans are responsible and peoples aman committee and the lyari gang war


kis ko bewakof bana rahay ho sab jantay hayn kon involve hay

simple question why they did not do operation by army or police

who was stoping ppp,mqm and anp collition than and who is stoping them now

no answer just busy potrying them selves as saints

jahan marzi say kan pakar lo ppp,mqm,anp aur ttp sab shamil hayn qatal o bhata khori mayn
 
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agar itnay dehsatgard thay ttp aur baki tanzimon kay tu

kia mqm aur ppp aur anp anpany karkun marwati rahi muft mayn

ye tenon parties tu tribal area mayn operation ki sab say bari hami then

tu karachi mayn kyun police yan army say operation nae karwaya


courts indicate political parties involvement,the agencies has said that karachi has more weapons than waziristan,ppp vs mqm vs anp press conferences blaming each other for killing,sahi syed saying we will kick muhajirs back to were they come from mqm saying pathans are responsible and peoples aman committee and the lyari gang war


kis to bewakof bana rahay ho sab jantay hayn kon involve hay

simple question why they did not do operation by army or police

who was stoping ppp,mqm and anp collition than and who is stoping them now

no answer just busy potrying them selves as saints

jahan marzi say kan pakar lo ppp,mqm,anp aur ttp sab shamil hayn qatal o bhata khori mayn

waziristan me army operation se tere chacha ban gye taliban?

MQM to 2008 se keh rahe he taliban karachi arahe hain tu us me MQM ka kya kasur he jab taliban agye?

ab bhugto
 
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waziristan me army operation se tere chacha ban gye taliban?

MQM to 2008 se keh rahe he taliban karachi arahe hain tu us me MQM ka kya kasur he jab taliban agye?

ab bhugto

thora zaban samhal kay janab

mqm tu dramay ki mahir hay

2008 say issi lia kha tha kay ab ppp b hay anp b hay ji b hay tu truf war tu ho gi

isi liay lashen kisi pay tu dalna then

ttp pay tu ab b operation ho rahay hayn target killer teray mamay chay jo lagtay hayn tabi rona shuru ho jata hay

aur opertaion kar lo kpk na khpay nae kahay ga

specially jab drama queen anp power mayn nae


agar itni fiqar thi tu opertion kar daytay ppp,mqm aur anp wale

bhata khori,target killing aur aghwa bare tawan say fursat nae thi 5 saal

abi rona shuru kar dia


pata thay 70% apnay kutay bilay pakray jaen gay tu operation keasy karwatay

ab rangers par ilzam lagatay ho

jab 5 saal mushi ki godh mayn aur 5 saal ppp ki godh mayn guzaray tab yaad nae aya


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