JUI-F's Maulana Shirani comes out against Fazlur Rehman and voices support for israel

[HAIDER]

If you want to kill Kashmir cause permanently then accept Israel ... which majority of mullah mentally not capable enough to understand and " some people".

 

[Cherub786]

If you want to kill Kashmir cause permanently then accept Israel ... which majority of mullah mentally not capable enough to understand and " some people".

What cause? Shi'ah should decide are they thinking about Pakistan or thinking about Iran?

 

[HAIDER]

What cause? Shi'ah should decide are they thinking about Pakistan or thinking about Iran?

Attacking sects is the lowest someone can go... people need to think beyond those lines. This forums is full of people who firmly divide and attack on sects when they are not agree with someone.
Please use google you will find the clues and oooo Palestinian are Sunni Arab they are not shia .

 

[Cherub786]

Attacking sects is the lowest someone can go... people need to think beyond those lines. This forums is full of people who firmly divide and attack on sects when they are not agree with someone.
Please use google you will find the clues and oooo Palestinian are Sunni Arab they are not shia .

I'm not attacking any sect, it's a political issue not religious. I just want to know is the Shi'ah community in Pakistan truly independent and feel their loyalties are with Pakistan or are they acting as agents of Iran?
This question is crucial to understanding the Pakistan - Israel issue. I believe many ordinary Pakistanis would like to make peace with Israel, but there is a powerful Shi'ah community lobby which is very close to Iran and don't want this to happen, as it will be a huge blow to Iran, their main financer. It's no secret the present PTI government was elected to power thanks in part to Shi'ah vote. Perhaps the government wants to make peace with Israel but is fearful of upsetting this vote bank.

 

[HAIDER]

I'm not attacking any sect, it's a political issue not religious. I just want to know is the Shi'ah community in Pakistan truly independent and feel their loyalties are with Pakistan or are they acting as agents of Iran?
This question is crucial to understanding the Pakistan - Israel issue. I believe many ordinary Pakistanis would like to make peace with Israel, but there is a powerful Shi'ah community lobby which is very close to Iran and don't want this to happen, as it will be a huge blow to Iran, their main financer. It's no secret the present PTI government was elected to power thanks in part to Shi'ah vote. Perhaps the government wants to make peace with Israel but is fearful of upsetting this vote bank.

Jinnah statement is principle stand of Pakistan. It has nothing to do with Shia or Sunni. Or any mullah.

 

[Enigma SIG]

It's no secret the present PTI government was elected to power thanks in part to Shi'ah vote.

Adding this to the myriad conspiracy theories as to how Imran Khan came to power.

BC people can't make their minds, establishment, modi, israel and now shias lol.

 

[Cherub786]

Jinnah statement is principle stand of Pakistan. It has nothing to do with Shia or Sunni. Or any mullah.

Jinnah died some seventy years ago. No nation can progress on an outdated policy when circumstances have changed so drastically. Btw, both Jinnah and Liaqat Ali Khan were in favor of friendship and alliance with the United States of America. So why be hypocritical?

Adding this to the myriad conspiracy theories as to how Imran Khan came to power.

BC people can't make their minds, establishment, modi, israel and now shias lol.

It's not a conspiracy theory. I myself prefer PTI government to PMLN and PPP.
It's a fact that Shi'ah who were previously PPP jiyalas voted big time for PTI, especially from Punjab and Karachi. Notice I said that "in part", because many other communities also voted strongly for PTI, like the Muhajirs, the Pakhtuns, and also many Sunni Muslims of Punjab.

 

[HAIDER]

Adding this to the myriad conspiracy theories as to how Imran Khan came to power.

BC people can't make their minds, establishment, modi, israel and now shias lol.

Nodoubt , people passing such type of statement against Imran Khan to fan sectarianism in Pakistan. ... at one point people call Nawaz Shareef shia or backed by shia ... lolzzz

Jinnah died some seventy years ago. No nation can progress on an outdated policy when circumstances have changed so drastically. Btw, both Jinnah and Liaqat Ali Khan were in favor of friendship and alliance with the United States of America. So why be hypocritical?


It's not a conspiracy theory. I myself prefer PTI government to PMLN and PPP.
It's a fact that Shi'ah who were previously PPP jiyalas voted big time for PTI, especially from Punjab and Karachi. Notice I said that "in part", because many other communities also voted strongly for PTI, like the Muhajirs, the Pakhtuns, and also many Sunni Muslims of Punjab.

Palestinian issue is also stand still since 1948 and even get worse and Kashmir issue .....

 

[El Sidd]

Adding this to the myriad conspiracy theories as to how Imran Khan came to power.

BC people can't make their minds, establishment, modi, israel and now shias lol.

Why don't you refute the simple observation?

 

[El Sidd]

Palestinian issue is also stand still since 1948 and even get worse and Kashmir issue .....

Pakistan has seen very little local support from Iranic Kashmiris.

Kargil 1999 is witness to this fact.

 

[Cherub786]

Pakistan has seen very little local support from Iranic Kashmiris.

Kargil 1999 is witness to this fact.

I thought Kashmiris are Dardic

 

[KaiserX]

Seems like the biggest looters are also the most anti-israeli politicians as well. Take for example Mullah Diesel. Also Maryam Nawazs affair with a jewish man are well known in londons elite.

the most nationalist pakistani leaders are also the most pro-israel ie zia, musharraf, and now IK. IK in private def has a soft spot for jews and israel. He former wife and children are jewish ( in judaism religion comes from mother who must be jew). Hewas a star in the west and had interaction with zionist elites. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[El Sidd]

There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[HAIDER]

Seems like the biggest looters are also the most anti-israeli politicians as well. Take for example Mullah Diesel. Also Maryam Nawazs affair with a jewish man are well known in londons elite.

the most nationalist pakistani leaders are also the most pro-israel ie zia, musharraf, and now IK. IK in private def has a soft spot for jews and israel. He former wife and children are jewish ( in judaism religion comes from mother who must be jew). Hewas a star in the west and had interaction with zionist elites. There is nothing wrong with that.

Watch Baron Cohen speech about Mark Zukerman ... see the power of Zion..

Pakistan has seen very little local support from Iranic Kashmiris.

Kargil 1999 is witness to this fact.

No worries, Farooq Abdullah already apologies for his father's crimes against " Iranic Kashmiris".

 

[El Sidd]

No worries

why would you every worry about Kashmir?