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JuD will continue to operate in Pakistan: Spokesperson
Dawn.com | Irfan Haider
Updated about 3 hours ago
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Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed. — AFP/File

As the Foreign Office said Thursday that the bank accounts of Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) have been frozen and foreign travel restrictions imposed on the organisation's leader Hafiz Saeed, JuD in its official response said it would continue its "charity work" across Pakistan regardless.

The official reaction emailed out by JuD accused Pakistan of having banned the organisation under pressure from the US to "please India".

The JuD spokesperson defended the group, saying the Lahore High Court and the Supreme Court had issued verdicts in favour of allowing JuD to operate in the past. Based on these verdicts, JuD vowed to continue on its mission.

Earlier, JuD members told Dawn.com that the party leadership would approach the Supreme Court to challenge the ban. A JuD member, who requested anonymity, maintained that the group has only been engaged in charitable work for the past several years across the country.

Read: Pakistan freezes bank accounts of Jamaatud Dawa

Another member of the organisation said if the government decided to take any action against JuD's charity's work, then the organisation would move the apex court which had given it a "clean chit" in the past.

The Supreme Court in May 2010 upheld a Lahore High Court order of releasing Hafiz Saeed, who is accused of masterminding the Mumbai attacks.

A three-judge bench headed by Justice Nasirul Mulk dismissed appeals filed by the federal and Punjab governments citing their failure to produce incriminating evidence against Hafiz Saeed.

“We do appreciate that the world has changed after the event of 9/11 and that people are being detained at Bagram prison in Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay in Cuba or Poland, but there is a burden on us that we could not allow detention on speculations since our Constitution guarantees certain rights to people like liberty and access to fair trial,” Justice Jawad S. Khwaja, a member of the bench, observed in 2010.

“Should we throw out all rights merely because someone in the Punjab secretariat is saying differently?” the judge had asked.

Justice Nasirul Mulk had observed that Hafiz Saeed was not a convicted person and not under detention, but had been in preventive custody since Dec 12, 2008.

The self-styled charity organisation has been outlawed for the second time today, a move its members say is the result of international pressure and the recent visit of US Secretary of State John Kerry to Pakistan.

FO spokesperson Tasneem Aslam, however, underscored today that Pakistan's decision was driven by UN obligations and not under pressure from any other quarter, including John Kerry.

India and the United States had since long been demanding that JuD chief Hafiz Saeed be taken to task for his alleged involvement in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.

Along with the JuD, the Haqqani Network has also been banned. The latter, founded by Afghan warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani, has been blamed for some of the most deadly attacks on US-led foreign forces in Afghanistan and was designated as a terrorist organisation by the United States in September 2012.

"It was expected that the government will ban the Haqqani Network and JuD with the Zarb-i-Azab operation under way in North Waziristan but the deadly Taliban assault on Peshawar's Army Public School on December 16 compelled the government to put both groups in the list of banned outfits,” former interior secretary Tasneem Noorani told Dawn.

Noorani said it seemed that the government was extremely serious about countering militancy — without differentiating between good and bad terrorists — which he said was apparent when the Pakistan Army launched military operations in North Waziristan.

“With the ban in place, the JuD leadership will be unable to organise any kind of function to promote their agenda and will be unable to perform charity work across the country,” Noorani said.

“It is necessary for the government to take action, but I personally believe that it will be difficult for the government to stop JuD's activities across the country,” he claimed.

The former secretary said he did not think that the government was taking these steps due to pressure from the US or India.

"People like Hafiz Saeed are fond of travelling to Saudi Arabia to perform Hajj or Umrah but he will be unable to travel after the ban," said Security Analyst and Executive Director Executive Director of Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies Muhammad Amir Rana.

"In the past, JuD managed to get a clean chit from the apex court due to its leadership claiming that the organisation was only involved in charitable work across the country; hence it was necessary for the government to ban organisations which are being led by those who remained heads of banned outfits in the past,” he added.

“I don't think the government's decision to freeze JuD's assets will be helpful because the organisation was already collecting funds using the name of Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation; a charity organisation which was banned by the government,” the security expert claimed.

Take a look: US adds another Pakistani charity to terror list

Rana was of the view that the government needs to create awareness among masses through media and exhibit a thick-skinned approach in order to implement its decision.
 
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US adds another Pakistani charity to terror list


WASHINGTON, Nov 24: The United States on Wednesday added Pakistan's Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation, a charity associated with a banned militant group, to its official list of blacklisted terror organisations.

The US State Department said Falah-e-Insaniyat (FeF) had been dubbed an 'alias' of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), which is already on the State Department's list of “designated foreign terrorist organisations”.

Daniel Benjamin, the State Department's coordinator for counter-terrorism, said the move “shows that the United States will not tolerate any support to this organisation.

“LeT has attempted to use FeF as a way to evade scrutiny. This designation will help put to an end to that attempted evasion,” Mr Benjamin said in a statement.

The official order also named FeF leader Hafiz Abdur Rauf and two other men associated with LeT, Mian Abdullah and Mohammad Naushad Alam Khan, to its list of “specially designated global terrorists”.

FeF is a name used in public by the Jamaatud Dawa (JuD), initially set up as the humanitarian wing of the Pakistan-based LeT, which has been active in relief efforts for those hit by floods in Pakistan.—Reuters
 
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Obviously, without terrorist organisations operating from Pakistan, Pakistan will lose its identity as the terror central of the world.
 
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It means India would lose its identity if it would stop supporting terror outfits operating in its neighboring nations.

Weather India supports terrorist present in Pakistan or weather Pakistan supports terrorist present within Pakistan..ultimately Pakistan remains the terror hub of the region..ergo terrorism is an essential part of your identity.

Besides name one UN designated terrorist outfit that India supports in Pakistan, with evidence of course.

india sponsors terrorism within the borders of Pakistan, it is no secret. 'Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house'. india and morality?, Good joke.

Prove it !
 
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JuD has never had a role in terrorist attacks in Pakistan or the region for that matter

the only reason you indians YAP and continue to YAP about JuD is b/c of its leader HS. And your issue with HS is his anti-india speeches and venom against india (including a recent speech he made in AZAD J&K).. Making provocative or anti indian statements in public or private is not a crime in Pakistan. A lot of people do it, not just him. Do indians who spit venom against Pakistan or those who even incite violence or promote terrorism in Pakistan get punished in india?

We will not imprison someone who makes anti india or pro Kashmir statements just because it hurts the sensitive feelings and emotions of you or your ilk across the border.

my personal assessment on this is that unless the Supreme Court or the High Courts can determine that HS/JuD have ties to terrorism in Pakistan or terrorist groups in Pakistan (including sectarian outfits) - nothing is going to happen to him and he will continue his charity/political activities. There's nothing the indians can do - even if they continue to ride on US or UK shoulders as they always do when such matters are brought up

Even the Americans have admitted there is no evidence that links HS to terrorism....as a symbolic gesture just to shut the indians up they offered a $10 million reward for any individual that could provide evidence that is admissible in court and sufficient enough to have him prosecuted. A futile effort.

I'm not defending JuD - but what I (and hopefully ALL patriotic Pakistanis) wont accept is a Pakistani national being detained on false pretexts, especially just to please a hostile neighbour with whom we shouldnt even be having diplomatic relations with


On the other hand - Pakistan's efforts at targetting terrorist groups that pose an existential threat (TTP, other taleb factions, BLA, Jamat ul Ahrar, Jundollah, HuM, JeM, SSP etc.) we must continue to arrest them or kill them. We must also find ways to exact revenge against their sponsors.
 
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Weather India supports terrorist present in Pakistan or weather Pakistan supports terrorist present within Pakistan..ultimately Pakistan remains the terror hub of the region.

Says an arse. A bharati pichwara.

Besides name one UN designated terrorist outfit that India supports in Pakistan, with evidence of course.

Arse or pichwara are not worthy of evidences. Neither I want to prove anything to you.

When our highest government officials say that attacks from afghan soil have Indian involvement then I agree with them.

Attacks from Afghan soil have Indian involvement: Sartaj Aziz - IBNLive
 
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Pakistan's army is actively decimating terrorists of "of all hues and colours". Your country's TTP sponsoring is now faltering. Your argument doesn't negate mine, as i stated 'don't throw stones when you live in a glass house', i'm reasonably sure you know what i meant by that. Sure, as it stands, Pakistan doesn't have the 'merriest' of image globally, i'm optimistic time will change all that. The Pakistani army has a plethora of evidence to successfully link india with terrorism within the borders of Pakistan. However, no amount of evidence will be accepted by india given their vast denial history. (Unfortunately i can't post links given that i'm new here). Now your country can go engage in some more 'false flag' operations like the 'terror boat' fiasco. Pakistan needs to expose india globally. However, given that their image isn't the best when looking at the wider world, may prove to be a challenge. That's the difference.

Weather India supports terrorist present in Pakistan or weather Pakistan supports terrorist present within Pakistan..ultimately Pakistan remains the terror hub of the region..ergo terrorism is an essential part of your identity.

Besides name one UN designated terrorist outfit that India supports in Pakistan, with evidence of course.



Prove it !
 
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Says an arse. A bharati pichwara.



Arse or pichwara are not worthy of evidences. Neither I want to prove anything to you.

When our highest government officials say that attacks from afghan soil have Indian involvement then I agree with them.

Attacks from Afghan soil have Indian involvement: Sartaj Aziz - IBNLive

Haha well guess I a got under your skin, in last one..Your frustration very evident.
Besides, everyone knows, you can prove $hit..that is why you are frustrated.
 
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Haha well guess I a got under your skin, in last one..Your frustration very evident.
Besides, everyone knows, you can prove $hit..that is why you are frustrated.

There is nothing for me to be frustrated about. These is you who has pain in the arse with operations of JUD. It should be you who is frustrated.
 
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Haha well guess I a got under your skin, in last one..Your frustration very evident.
Besides, everyone knows, you can prove $hit..that is why you are frustrated.

Your (late) defense attache in Kabul dispatched many terrorists to Pakistan, with puppet Karzai's backing and tacit approval. He paid for it with his life.
 
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