Jordanian King Abdullah, himself a pilot, will fly sorties on ISIS targets.

[1000]

So Jordanian ghots were bombing Daesh in Syria for months or what? This Jordanian pilot killed by Daesh fell out from the sky too?

From what I recall Iraq does only want Western pilots to strike Daesh within Iraq. They don't want Arab pilots. Now you want help suddenly?

Aerial bombing is different than ground troops.

Iraqi gov wants western pilots because the Arab governments have listed several volunteer groups/militia's as terrorist groups, there's chance they will bomb them ( friendly fire on purpose ) causing nothing but more trouble. Ground forces however, especially Jordan in Anbar no one will have a problem with it and this is the right opportunity, people don't join the army to do nothing all their life whilst an enemy is threatening and terrorizing their personnel. Now is the time they deploy some, doesn't even have to be a larger number, but i'm not expecting it. They deploy to safe Bahrain instead.

 

[haman10]

suddenly?

suddenly ? why suddenly ?

iraq's situation keeps getting better and better everyday , they don't need any sudden change of policy

go figure who lies now

 

[al-Hasani]

Aerial bombing is different than ground troops.

Iraqi gov wants western pilots because the Arab governments have listed several volunteer groups/militia's as terrorist groups, there's chance they will bomb them ( friendly fire on purpose ) causing nothing but more trouble. Ground forces however, especially Jordan in Anbar no one will have a problem with it and this is the right opportunity, people don't join the army to do nothing all their life whilst an enemy is threatening and terrorizing their personnel. Now is the time they deploy some, doesn't even have to be a larger number, but i'm not expecting it. They deploy to safe Bahrain instead.

Why should Arab countries send ground troops to Iraq and Syria when nobody else has done that (outside of a few dozen American soldiers that are going to train Iraqi forces and rebel forces in Turkey, KSA and Qatar) and when Iraq did not even want Arab countries to bomb Daesh in Iraq when they offered help and half of Iraq was overrun?

That's because those groups are terrorist groups.

Those troops are not welcome. They would be seen as foreign occupiers. Such projects cannot happen as long as there is no trust in the ME. There is a reason why nobody has done this yet. Enough of opportunities to do so though. Yet all have refrained from doing it.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

You may volunteer against him.

We have our own enemies to volunteer against. The bully state to our east for example.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Wow. Someone younger than me. A word of advice. Don't disregard aunties out of hand. They try extra to please.

True that. Plus, proposal is out of the equation!

 

[1000]

Why should Arab countries send ground troops to Iraq and Syria when nobody else has done that (outside of a few dozen American soldiers that are going to train Iraqi forces and rebel forces in Turkey, KSA and Qatar) and when Iraq did not even want Arab countries to bomb Daesh in Iraq when they offered help and half of Iraq was overrun?

Not Arab countries, only Jordan because they want revenge, they have ground forces which are said to be well trained. In Anbar they can take all the revenge they want together with the tribal fighters and the army, almost no militia's there. They can even base ground troops in Al Asad air base where Americans are located and operate from there in Anbar.

That's because those groups are terrorist groups.

That's why he denied Arab air strikes. Whilst the Arab governments act with their emotions and short sightedness which helped them to mess things up often. The US knows it's current objective is to defeat ISIS, militia's can be taken care of later, infact they will integrate back to civillian life/army like before.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Understood. But please guard your borders. We need you as a sane buffer between us and the ME crapfest. Pakistan I have little hope for. If you fall, they will sweep through Pakistan.

You need a buffer? is that because you are scared or because of your illusion of being a civilised super power?

 

[al-Hasani]

Not Arab countries, only Jordan because they want revenge, they have ground forces which are said to be well trained. In Anbar they can take all the revenge they want together with the tribal fighters and the army, almost no militia's there. They can even base ground troops in Al Asad air base where Americans are located and operate from there in Anbar.


That's why he denied Arab air strikes. Whilst the Arab governments act with their emotions and short sightedness which helped them to mess things up often. The US knows it's current objective is to defeat ISIS, militia's can be taken care of later, infact they will integrate back to civillian life/army like before.

Locals will not like that. If the Iraqi army is not welcome in Al-Anbar why do you think that they will welcome the Jordanian army? Of course this is possible. Not saying that. I am just saying that it will probably cause more trouble than good.

They would not bomb those militias if the goal is to bomb Daesh held towns and villages. There are no militias there yet. Outside of Diyala and Salah ad-Din which both are almost Daesh free on paper.

Besides Syria is a bigger danger to Jordan so they should bomb Eastern Syria. Also where the pilot was killed.

 

[1000]

Locals will not like that. If the Iraqi army is not welcome in Al-Anbar why do you think that they will welcome the Jordanian army? Of course this is possible. Not saying that. I am just saying that it will probably cause more trouble than good.

They would not bomb those militias if the goal is to bomb Daesh held towns and villages. There are no militias there yet. Outside of Diyala and Salah ad-Din which both are almost Daesh free on paper.

Locals are divided, some welcome the army some side with ISIS. Those who don't welcome it are ISIS supporters, the story of revolutionary tribes is over as they have no power, ISIS is ruling them everywhere where the army isn't present. They're the enemy so they should be killed. Jordan can help in doing that, they will be welcomed be the Sahwat/army but not by ISIS. Perfect environment for revenge.

Like he said Jordan's king vows revenge against ISIS as Gulf ally halts air strikes | Daily Mail Online

It's better for their own security.

 

[doppelganger]

You need a buffer? is that because you are scared or because of your illusion of being a civilised super power?

We are scared.

 

[al-Hasani]

Locals are divided, some welcome the army some side with ISIS. Those who don't welcome it are ISIS supporters, the story of revolutionary tribes is over as they have no power, ISIS is ruling them everywhere where the army isn't present. They're the enemy so they should be killed. Jordan can help in doing that, they will be welcomed be the Sahwat/army but not by ISIS. Perfect environment for revenge.

Like he said Jordan's king vows revenge against ISIS as Gulf ally halts air strikes | Daily Mail Online

It's better for their own security.

Locals in my example = Daesh supporters. There are enough of them in Al-Anbar as you already know. What does it matter that more locals do not support Daesh if the Jordanian forces will be under similar or even bigger threat than the Iraqi forces who are losing hundreds of men each week almost? Forces that know the terrain and many are locals from Anbar themselves yet they are still attacked. The risks are bigger than the potential gain.

Jordan should stick to aerial bombardments until a coalition has been established that is willing to send ground troops. Jordan cannot do the job alone.

If they want revenge they can execute all the retards on death row instead of not touching them for 10 years.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We have our own enemies to volunteer against. The bully state to our east for example.

Why do you hate China so much?

 

[doppelganger]

Why do you hate China so much?

State sanctioned terrorism against muslim brothers.

 

[SipahSalar]

Turki can clean up ISIS in 3 weeks by most expert opinions. And the bombing of ISIS that USA is conducting is suspiciously extremely limited... noone knows what the hell is going on.

 

[Falcon29]

So Jordanian ghosts were bombing Daesh in Syria for months or what? This Jordanian pilot killed by Daesh fell out from the sky too?

From what I recall the Iraqi government does only want Western pilots to strike Daesh within Iraq. They don't want Arab pilots. Now you want help suddenly?

I advise against Arab deployement. Unless members of coalition also pitch in 40-60k troops. Arabs will pitch in 20k. This coalition needs to prove to us that isn't another project to divide to the ME through these very shadowy organizations. Problem is they already succeeded in implementing new middle east.

Turki can clean up ISIS in 3 weeks by most expert opinions. And the bombing of ISIS that USA is conducting is suspiciously extremely limited... noone knows what the hell is going on.

It's not limited, there are almost 30 sorties on average per day. Their strikes are spread throughout span of years. So it is going to be less intense then say Israeli attacks on Palestinians.