Jinnah Was Right

[Chhatrapati]

Muslims was divided in 1947, Abul Kalam and few other Muslims was the supporter of congress due to which Jinnah bargaining position become weak, otherwise Jinnah could have easily secure more land for indian Muslims

Except for some princely states, the Indian Muslim population was much less vis Hindus. So, creating a much larger Pakistan would mean creating enclaves the in the sizes of village.

 

[Umar Nazir]

Except for some princely states, the Indian Muslim population was much less vis Hindus. So, creating a much larger Pakistan would mean creating enclaves the in the sizes of village.

well as I said if Muslims could had become united in 1947 , which means abul Kalam and Sheikh Abdullah, the entire Kashmir surely and larger part of the UP and might be parts of east Punjab could have become part of Pakistan in 1947

 

[Adil Khan Kakar]

LOL Are you affirming that Muslims cannot co-exist with any other group? @hussain0216 coz citizen amendment bill fast track citizenship process to minorities from Afg, Pak and BD.

India is following Myanmar model.
First step is to make Muslims stateless.
Second step will be Detention camps
Third step will be genocide as deportation is not possible.
If you observe Sanghis on twitter, they are celebrating that "final solution" of "Muslims problem" is coming near.

 

[Chhatrapati]

India is following Myanmar model.
First step is to make Muslims stateless.
Second step will be Detention camps
Third step will be genocide as deportation is not possible.
If you observe Sanghis on twitter, they are celebrating that "final solution" of "Muslims problem" is coming near.

I don't know where you guys get these stories. Is it flashing in your news network or is it just the PDF fantasy as usual.

 

[StormBreaker]

Thankyou, Baba e Qom ...

Thankyou, Quaid e Azam

We, Paks, don't know what it means to have Our own Land...

In a way GanguFacism is a blessing for us that we may be grateful for OurPakLand, OurPakNation....

EmergingPakistan

But the real concern is that, we aren’t.
What a pity !!!

Im personally a bit uncomfortable with this trend..So will Jinnah be wrong if India magically turns itno a true secular state tomorrow?Jinnah got us the state because we are different people. Our culture and religion is different. so Jinnah stays right regardless what happens nextdoor..

Get out of the world of ‘IF’.
No one makes singular decisions/deductions based on IFs. History has proven right that UNFORTUNATELY, the Hindu REGIME of subcontinent will always be hostile to others. Prime example is Current India, Rajputs during Mughal era, those who betrayed Mughals in favor of EI Company and eventually got a well deserving dark fate and a slap on the face by the EIC themselves.

You guys can never mend your mentality of HATRED.

 

[Imran Khan]

salam baba for not letting us ruled by terrorists like modi yogi and amit shah . millions thanks to baba jinnah for getting us free country .

 

[Adil Khan Kakar]

I don't know where you guys get these stories. Is it flashing in your news network or is it just the PDF fantasy as usual.

Seriously?
Combine NRC with CAB, millions of Muslims of India are going to become stateless.
How the hell you think Poor labourers living in slums of Mumbai will produce documents to prove Nationality?
This is clearly scheme to snatch right of vote from as many Muslim possible

 

[StormBreaker]

May Allah Grant “Father Of Millat” the Highest Place in Jannah.

Apart from being a revolutionary leader, what a SWAG Personality.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Well at least we are not lynching for eating or carrying meat , Plus Jinnah knew and foresaw that cult of Hindutva and try to warn people, some sensible people agree and got their free Land , rest remain and live like 3rd grade citizens , their homes are not save, their Mosques are not , their lives are not and all of that done with full backing of Indian Govt , but who cares ?? More Power to Modi and Yogi

 

[Chhatrapati]

Seriously?
Combine NRC with CAB, millions of Muslims of India are going to become stateless.
How the hell you think Poor labourers living in slums of Mumbai will produce documents to prove Nationality?
This is clearly scheme to snatch right of vote from as many Muslim possible

NRC is to weed out illegal Bangladeshi Muslims. Muslims living in Slums of Mumbai have identity cards they regularly get rations irrespective of they are poor Muslim. Do an independent research on the topic rather than being a sheep following the mass. It's not that difficult to understand, is it?

CAB has been already in place, there are tens of thousands Hindus, Christians, Buddhists from Pakistan, BD etc... who had to wait for decades to get citizen despite living in India for years.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

If it was British India, there would be nearly 40% Muslim population, and the odds of what you said would be next to none.

That’s a flawed argument. Elections don’t work on absolute numbers in that just because the Muslim population would have been 40% that you’d see around the same percentage of Muslim supported elected representatives.

The distribution of votes in each constituency is what determines the outcome and Muslims in India are spread out too much to influence elections. The Muslim vote in Pakistan & Bangladesh would have similarly been diluted since millions of Hindus, Sikhs & Muslims would not have migrated. So the net impact of this ‘40% Muslim vote in United India’ would have been much, much smaller than the absolute numbers of Muslims in United India, and this whole ‘Ghar Waapsi’ Hindutva BS would have been just as vicious, if not more.

Jinnah saw the writing on the wall long before anyone else. The underlying geographical demographic distribution of the Muslim & Hindu populations of a United India and the underlying religious tensions and especially the underlying Hindu insecurities and anger over Muslim rule were never going to allow a ‘secular’ Federation in the long term, especially when even the Congress party (supposedly the more secular of Indian political parties) rejected Jinnah’s idea of a Federation with significant autonomy for Muslim majority areas.

Indian Hindus can’t even tolerate a tiny number of Muslims in Kashmir exercising autonomy (see the widespread support for revocation of Article 370), let alone tolerating autonomy for vast swathes of Muslim majority territories that today form Pakistan & Bangladesh.

 

[Adil Khan Kakar]

NRC is to weed out illegal Bangladeshi Muslims. Muslims living in Slums of Mumbai have identity cards they regularly get rations irrespective of they are poor Muslim. Do an independent research on the topic rather than being a sheep following the mass. It's not that difficult to understand, is it?

CAB has been already in place, there are tens of thousands Hindus, Christians, Buddhists from Pakistan, BD etc... who had to wait for decades to get citizen despite living in India for years.

After watching Republic TV excessively most of indian fellows are living in parallel universe
Dear see this
https://www.business-standard.com/a...xcluded-from-citizen-list-118080200091_1.html
A guy going to Detention camps even after fighting Kargil war with Pakistan.
How the hell do you think illiterates of darahvi are going to get listed?

 

[third eye]

India is following Myanmar model.
First step is to make Muslims stateless.
Second step will be Detention camps
Third step will be genocide as deportation is not possible.
If you observe Sanghis on twitter, they are celebrating that "final solution" of "Muslims problem" is coming near.

Aren’t steps 1&2 the Chinese model too ?

 

[Adil Khan Kakar]

Aren’t steps 1&2 the Chinese model too ?

So you are following Chinese?

 

[Chhatrapati]

That’s a flawed argument. Elections don’t work on absolute numbers in that just because the Muslim population would have been 40% that you’d see around the same percentage of Muslim supported elected representatives.

The distribution of votes in each constituency is what determines the outcome and Muslims in India are spread out too much to influence elections. The Muslim vote in Pakistan & Bangladesh would have similarly been diluted since millions of Hindus, Sikhs & Muslims would not have migrated. So the net impact of this ‘40% Muslim vote in United India’ would have been much, much smaller than the absolute numbers of Muslims in United India, and this whole ‘Ghar Waapsi’ Hindutva BS would have been just as vicious, if not more.

Jinnah saw the writing on the wall long before anyone else. The underlying geographical demographic distribution of the Muslim & Hindu populations of a United India and the underlying religious tensions and especially the underlying Hindu insecurities and anger over Muslim rule were never going to allow a ‘secular’ Federation in the long term, especially when even the Congress party (supposedly the more secular of Indian political parties) rejected Jinnah’s idea of a Federation with significant autonomy for Muslim majority areas.

Indian Hindus can’t even tolerate a tiny number of Muslims in Kashmir exercising autonomy (see the widespread support for revocation of Article 370), let alone tolerating autonomy for vast swathes of Muslim majority territories that today form Pakistan & Bangladesh.

That's rich. So, my argument is flawed because Muslims won't support a single party but Hindus does.

The distribution is not what determines the outcome, it is the numbers that determine outcome when we are talking about adding BD and Pak primarily because both are Muslim majority even when united you'd be Muslim majority. And don't even bring Ghar wapasi, it's a joke, the net retention is higher among Muslims and so is conversion rate primarily through marriage from Hindus.

Despite all these "writings on the wall", India is set to be largest Muslim population in the world. If Hindus were in fact angry about Muslims, there wouldn't be any significant Muslim population left in India, I'm not denying communal tensions, they do exist but the scale of it is much much lower than what you like to see and such even that is slowly wearing off.

Not just Indian Hindus, it's a common feeling among Indians. Why should J&K a state just like Kerala or Tamil Nadu should enjoy special benefits? We South/West Indians pay the most to the nation, why should we keep paying them? Let the needy states like Bihar and UP get more funds. We granted them special powers, it's our prerogative to revoke those special powers. We never barred people from Jammu and Kashmir to work here, rule us in center, and bureaucracy. Why should we not have the same privileges in Jammu and Kashmir?