JH-7B

[Zarvan]

JH-7A

JH-7B

>> China says its new JH-7 electronic fighter is able to shoot down stealth aircraft at medium range.

The following is based on a translation of a report in Chinese media:

In its report, mil.news.sina.com.cn says that the new electronic variant of the JH-7 fighter/bomber is able to shoot down stealth aircraft at medium range.

***The new JH-7 uses technology similar to the US EA-18G and is able to shoot down the US F-22 stealth fighter jet.***

China has developed electronic equipment similar to that used on the US EA-18G.

As JH-7 can carry a heavy load, it is precisely the right warplane to carry such equipment.

Te report says that the JH-7 has a similar combat radius and speed to the J-10 and the J-11.

Some JH-7s and J-10s or J-11s can form a comprehensive combat group with JH-7 electronic fighters providing electronic interference.

That will enable J-10s or J-11s to avoid being attacked by stealth fighters.

In addition, due to the JH-7’s large loading capacity, The JH-7 can carry, in addition to the heavy electronic equipment, some anti-radiation and medium-range air-to-air missiles to shoot down stealth fighters it has detects.

Moreover, a JH-7 electronic fighter/bomber will to some extent be stealthy.

Through various modifications, a new variant JH-7B has been developed to be stealthy.

The new JH-7B is expected to be put into series production this year.

Source: chinadailymail.com

@MastanKhan @Windjammer

 

[Akasa]

The JH-7B does not have any airframe modifications (this was to save time and cost), and it seems that neither the PLAAF nor PLANAF has displayed any interesting in acquiring it.

The role of the JH-7B has essentially been superseded by the J-16 in the PLAAF and J-15S in the PLANAF, both of which boast not only substantially superior range and payload, but also newer avionics (including AESA radars).

 

[MastanKhan]

The JH-7B does not have any airframe modifications (this was to save time and cost), and it seems that neither the PLAAF nor PLANAF has displayed any interesting in acquiring it.

The role of the JH-7B has essentially been superseded by the J-16 in the PLAAF and J-15S in the PLANAF, both of which boast not only substantially superior range and payload, but also newer avionics (including AESA radars).

Zarvan,

Thanks for tagging me in " my " thread---.

Sinosoldier----the role fits the J16 for plaaf----but for pakistan---JH7B is the perfect aircraft.

It overall utility far exceeds anything that is in the Paf's arsenal at this time. With over 10000kg load carrying capacity---mach two speed and low flight capability----ability to have a massive aesa radar in its nose and the ability to carry heavy jammers and BVR missiles----there is nothing else available at this price.

This aircraft gives the biggest bang for the buck for the price range that it is in---.

As for those who have stated that paf has failed this aircraft years ago---well the Paf had failed the F7's as well long time ago---and when they were " forced " by china to look into the F7PG's---the paf was extremely surprised at the overall ability of that aircraft.

The problem is not in the aircraft---but in the minds of the air force---. The fighter mafia has doomed the air force and weakened the defences.

 

[Eagle Claw]

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>> China says its new JH-7 electronic fighter is able to shoot down stealth aircraft at medium range.

The following is based on a translation of a report in Chinese media:

In its report, mil.news.sina.com.cn says that the new electronic variant of the JH-7 fighter/bomber is able to shoot down stealth aircraft at medium range.

***The new JH-7 uses technology similar to the US EA-18G and is able to shoot down the US F-22 stealth fighter jet.***

China has developed electronic equipment similar to that used on the US EA-18G.

As JH-7 can carry a heavy load, it is precisely the right warplane to carry such equipment.

Te report says that the JH-7 has a similar combat radius and speed to the J-10 and the J-11.

Some JH-7s and J-10s or J-11s can form a comprehensive combat group with JH-7 electronic fighters providing electronic interference.

That will enable J-10s or J-11s to avoid being attacked by stealth fighters.

In addition, due to the JH-7’s large loading capacity, The JH-7 can carry, in addition to the heavy electronic equipment, some anti-radiation and medium-range air-to-air missiles to shoot down stealth fighters it has detects.

Moreover, a JH-7 electronic fighter/bomber will to some extent be stealthy.

Through various modifications, a new variant JH-7B has been developed to be stealthy.

The new JH-7B is expected to be put into series production this year.

Source: chinadailymail.com

@MastanKhan @Windjammer

@Zarvan please also give the due credit to the page from where you have picked this bro

Indeed its the *MOST* suitable Aircraft for both Pakistan Airforce as well as Pakistan Navy !

 

[Zarvan]

@Zarvan please also give the due credit to the page from where you have picked this bro

Indeed its the *MOST* suitable Aircraft for both Pakistan Airforce as well as Pakistan Navy !

Are you editor of that page and by the way they took the entire article from Chinese News Paper

Zarvan,

Thanks for tagging me in " my " thread---.

Sinosoldier----the role fits the J16 for plaaf----but for pakistan---JH7B is the perfect aircraft.

It overall utility far exceeds anything that is in the Paf's arsenal at this time. With over 10000kg load carrying capacity---mach two speed and low flight capability----ability to have a massive aesa radar in its nose and the ability to carry heavy jammers and BVR missiles----there is nothing else available at this price.

This aircraft gives the biggest bang for the buck for the price range that it is in---.

As for those who have stated that paf has failed this aircraft years ago---well the Paf had failed the F7's as well long time ago---and when they were " forced " by china to look into the F7PG's---the paf was extremely surprised at the overall ability of that aircraft.

The problem is not in the aircraft---but in the minds of the air force---. The fighter mafia has doomed the air force and weakened the defences.

First I have a question for you which engine will be used by JH-7 B ? Because some say current engine used by JH-7 B will be WZ-10 which was rejected by PAF. Still if it has a new engine that I hope we go for both JH-7B as well as SU-35 and that too at least 3 squadrons of each jet. These Jets will give us boot and make it easy to defend our Air Space as well as carry out strikes deep inside territory of our beloved enemy India.
@Beast @Deino @SinoSoldier @cirr

 

[Eagle Claw]

Are you editor of that page and by the way they took the entire article from Chinese News Paper

Yeahh thats because Source has been mentioned below

 

[Deino]

....
First I have a question for you which engine will be used by JH-7 B ? Because some say current engine used by JH-7 B will be WZ-10 which was rejected by PAF. Still if it has a new engine that I hope we go for both JH-7B as well as SU-35 and that too at least 3 squadrons of each jet. These Jets will give us boot and make it easy to defend our Air Space as well as carry out strikes deep inside territory of our beloved enemy India.

First You are mixing so many things in Your question, that it simply does not makes any sense:

1. the JH-7A uses a stanadrd WS-9 - some say slightly upgraded WS-9A - engine.
2. the few JH-7B prototypes (in fact two only so far identified) are using the same engine, regardless any talks on secret WS-12 or whatever type of new engine. There were in fact some long time ago considerations to do so, but these were rejected.
3. this engine is not the WZ-10 - that's a so far rumoured new turboshaft for the Z-20 - ... and if You mean the WS-10 then it's also wrong.
4. As already explained, the JH-7B program is most likely dead and at best will become a MLU-program to modernise the A-model ... nothing more.


By the way - and that's the second part - Sorry to say so, but these "the PAF is a friend of the PLAAF ... so we want, need and will get"-treads or questions are a bit boring and - IMO - even more stupid.

Surely there is a deep friendship between both Air Forces and nations, but that friendship will surely go not that far that China will give all these types as gifts to Pakistan ... and besides the limniting factor of cost, there are still other political issues. As such, CHina will never sell any of its Flanker-versions to Pakistan, regardless what a few here want and IMO the same counts to a purely offensive system like the JH-7A. China is not interested in "strikes of any PAF aircrfat deep into Indian territory"; period.

Deino

 

[MastanKhan]

. As such, CHina will never sell any of its Flanker-versions to Pakistan, regardless what a few here want and IMO the same counts to a purely offensive system like the JH-7A.

China is not interested in "strikes of any PAF aircrfat deep into Indian territory"; period.

Deino

Sir,

The sale of Flanker versions is restricted by russia.

As for the deep strike----you are incorrect in your assesment---. They were available in the past and they are still available.

@Zarvan --- there is too much made of the under powered engine----. All the pakistani mirages have always been underpowered---the F14 Tomcat was always underpowered---the famous Phanotm was way underpowered----.

So---under power is a misleading ststament.

 

[Kompromat]

Here it comes again

 

[Abingdonboy]

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@MastanKhan @Windjammer

It's like a Panavia Tornado and SEPECAT Jaguar had a baby.

 

[Deino]

Sir,

The sale of Flanker versions is restricted by russia.

As for the deep strike----you are incorrect in your assesment---. They were available in the past and they are still available.[..

I think You misundestood my post:

1. as for the Russian restrictions; YES... it's exactly what I said ... ergo, the PAF will never get a CHinese Flanker version.

2. I did not say, that the PLAAF or PAF is not able to strike ... but at least the PLAAF is today not interested in a major conflict with India. That's something different.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Nice plane , how does it stands up vs 4.0 to 4.5 generation planes

The twin engine at back look awesome but how agile is this comparative to other planes in market

 

[Quwa]

While we are far (very far) away from even broaching the question, the PAF should really try to get the Su-35 and Su-34 (the latter to serve as a dedicated strike aircraft). We have a lot of obstacles ahead of even having the possibility, such as a corrupt and incompetent political leadership, economic difficulties, etc, but that would be the best route.

 

[MastanKhan]

Nice plane , how does it stands up vs 4.0 to 4.5 generation planes

The twin engine at back look awesome but how agile is this comparative to other planes in market

Hi,

This is primarily a strike aircraft that has long legs and can carry a heavy load.

It is not designed for a close combat ' dogfight '---even though that can be enhanced with off bore sight missile launch capability.

With a proper aesa radar---jammers---modern BVR missiles---it can compete with any of the other aircraft in the 4--4.5 arena---but that is not the primary job---.

It can carry two heavy antiship missiles for long range missions---and carry bvr missiles as well---its growler type abilities are well touted.

With an almost twice the size aesa radar that can be fitted in its nose as compared to the JF17 or the F16---its ability to detect enemy at far greater distances would allow the complimentary aircraft to form a better plan to tackle in a timely manner---it ability to carry heavy jammers would allow it to give overall protection to its complimentary aircraft flying on the mission.

This is not your EXPRESS TRAIN---but rather a GOODS TRAIN---no show off and pomp---but without them---your economy never takes off.

Just remember the analogy---if you cannot deliver LARGE amount of your goods to the market in a timely manner---your economy suffers---but if you cannot even deliver the goods---your economy is doomed.

So---again I say---it is not all about the SHOW & POMP & THE G FORCES that an aircraft can take---but nice and smooth and do a steady job to deliver the heavy load at the target.

 

[Zarvan]

While we are far (very far) away from even broaching the question, the PAF should really try to get the Su-35 and Su-34 (the latter to serve as a dedicated strike aircraft). We have a lot of obstacles ahead of even having the possibility, such as a corrupt and incompetent political leadership, economic difficulties, etc, but that would be the best route.

It's time to take help from GCC. Yes we need at least 48 SU-35 and SU-34 or some other bomber Jet. Specially after this RAFALE deal finalized