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JF17 will be equal to F16 after upgrades

Equal to F-16 in which role? As a fighter interceptor/ air defence or in the deep penetration/interdiction role or for ground troop support?

No matter what kinds of improvements are done to it; JF-17 is limited by its size. Thunder could match F-16 in air defence role only but would not be able to match payload & range of F-16 especially of the later models.
 
Equal to F-16 in which role? As a fighter interceptor/ air defence or in the deep penetration/interdiction role or for ground troop support?

No matter what kinds of improvements are done to it; JF-17 is limited by its size. Thunder could match F-16 in air defence role only but would not be able to match payload & range of F-16 especially of the later models.
Jf17 Blk3 will provide you capabilities like IRST,IFR,HBOS and AESA.........
Hence Jf17 will provide you more flexibility of operation......
Even block 52s of PAF do not provide you every thing which Blk3 is gonna provide you....... :agree:
So no bro, by 2018, Jf17 will SURPASS our F16 in many dimensions.......​
 
Facepalm. Sometimes i think we should start our own newspaper to deal with these dumbwits.
that is the best idea you had in a while. have a news section on this site which will counter the clueless media, if you want i will contribute. [serious offer]
 
Just be realistic. JF-17 is a good plane but its no F-16. If it was as good as F-16, Pakistan wont be seeking 8 F-16s and intending to buy 10 more.
 
Just be realistic. JF-17 is a good plane but its no F-16. If it was as good as F-16, Pakistan wont be seeking 8 F-16s and intending to buy 10 more.

From an honest point of view I agree with you. But there is no doubt that the JF-17 project has given a MASSIVE boast to the Pakistani aeronautical industry and quite possibly put Pakistan on the path to one day indigenously manufacture world class high tech fighter jets.
 
Just be realistic. JF-17 is a good plane but its no F-16. If it was as good as F-16, Pakistan wont be seeking 8 F-16s and intending to buy 10 more.

It is of similar capapbility, for 1/4th of the price (perhaps even less). The JF-17 can do most things our F-16's can do, with a few exceptions (like penetrating deep into India). As an air defence fighter the JF-17 will suffice.
 
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Interview with Raana Tanveer Minister of Defense Productions

Khabrain Epaper

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Key Points:
Rawalpindi Interview By Basharat Fazil Abbasi

News paper Roznama Khabrain.

Pictures by ILfat Shah

· So far 50 Jf-17 are given to Pakistan Air force

· JF17 jets meet all international standards

· Next year 50 more JF-17 Jets will be provided to PAF

· These 50 will be upgraded ones.

· These jets are co-produce by CHINA AND PAKISTAN

· But locally produce jets have domestic parts in majority.

· Inshahallah .Approximately 3rd Batch will be manufacture by domestic resources.

· Now Dual seat JF17 is also in production and we will upgrade it to that level that it will be equal to F-16 by performance.

· There is a big difference in the price of Jf17 and F-16

· He answer to a question that we are in talks with 5 to 7 countries for Jf-17 exports and soon will be exported

· We made a policy that next all defense deals will be on technology transfer basis so later we can produce locally

· In Pakistan , Weapons used by security forces ,against terrorists are Made in Pakistan.

· In 2013 when Present government came in power Karachi Shipyard was running in loss 14 trillion rupees . We work day and night and now it is in profit.

· On a question regarding Pakistan Ordinance Factory he replied POF is making small weapons which POF is exporting as well as fulfilling domestic requirements.

· Before these exports were of 50 Billion dollars which are now double. These weapons are exported to Germany, USA ,Europe and middle eastern countries

· Question regarding air craft industry he answer In karma We are manufacturing trainer aircrafts Mushaq, Super Mushaq .Karakoram 8 which were exported to 7 countries and with some countries we are in talks to get new orders.

· He told regarding Tank manufacturing that we are manufacturing Al-Khalid tanks and also exporting them.Alkhalid is International standard tank

· POF is fulfilling all demands of 4 provinces regarding APV vehicles and small weapons.

· 70 to 80 % requirement of FC and Rangers is also fulfilled domestically

· In weapon manufacturing all domestic products are used .which helps in saving foreign exchange

· He answer question regarding terrorism that Pak Army if successfully running operations all over the country ,due to which we can see peace in Karachi and Economic activity is increasing rapidly in city.

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Export 100 billion dollar:hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:
 
Some points are not correct as for upgradation I think he is reffering to upgradation of Block I to BLOCK II standard

He is talking about the blk 3.
The upgraded block will be much better in performance ( better avionics with AESA radar).
Also it will be having a twin seat cockpit.
 
if pakistan gets to manufacture the FC-31 with TOT, it will be a massive game changer IMO, the technology can be incorporated in the JF-17 and turkey can provide support through its own 5th generation fighter program to enhance the FC-31, the F-16 will be a distant memory.
 
Hi,

Paf refused the J10C with aesa last year---why---their focus is 110% on the JF17 BLK 3----.

If the BLK 3 is getting the stuff that I know it is getting---then it would be superior to our current BLk52 F16's.

The reason they are going for the F16 is because it is an easier aircraft for them to induct---it is already integrated----.

Now that most of you kids understand what I meant by INTEGRATION that I have been talking for some 9 years plus---and majority of you would not want to understand---.

Over the years you have learnt what integration means and how difficult of a task it is for a 4th gen aicraft.

Now when you get the BLK3 JF17---many a things would be starting new---and many others would be upgraded---so then you are looking at another 5 to 10 years for your pilots to learn to operate the new gadgets to the best of the aircrafts abilities---.

See---we are talking about the PL15---which is what 150 KM max range missiles---we are talking about the hobs missiles---you will have standoff weapons that can target areas 100's of miles away---you will have IRST---you will have aesa---and many other gadgets---and to learn all this stuff takes time.

So---for that reason---you have the F16 BLK 52 to fill in the gap while you are integrating a new aircraft.
 
Hi,

Paf refused the J10C with aesa last year---why---their focus is 110% on the JF17 BLK 3----.

If the BLK 3 is getting the stuff that I know it is getting---then it would be superior to our current BLk52 F16's.

The reason they are going for the F16 is because it is an easier aircraft for them to induct---it is already integrated----.

Now that most of you kids understand what I meant by INTEGRATION that I have been talking for some 9 years plus---and majority of you would not want to understand---.

Over the years you have learnt what integration means and how difficult of a task it is for a 4th gen aicraft.

Now when you get the BLK3 JF17---many a things would be starting new---and many others would be upgraded---so then you are looking at another 5 to 10 years for your pilots to learn to operate the new gadgets to the best of the aircrafts abilities---.

See---we are talking about the PL15---which is what 150 KM max range missiles---we are talking about the hobs missiles---you will have standoff weapons that can target areas 100's of miles away---you will have IRST---you will have aesa---and many other gadgets---and to learn all this stuff takes time.

So---for that reason---you have the F16 BLK 52 to fill in the gap while you are integrating a new aircraft.
What will be the battle scenerio after integraton of all the above mentioned stuff in JF17 ? How you recon the scenerio of Indian current planes and after induction of refales ? How effective would JF 17 would be ?
 

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