JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[Stephen Cohen]

But the other reason for the presence of the JF-17 could be looking for new partners for the supply of embedded systems. In 2009, the PAF had taken advantage of the Paris Air Show to meet with French industrial and send them a list of equipment it wanted to acquire the JF-17. This list included notably the Damocles pod, the RC400 radar or air-to-air missile Mica (see: Air & Cosmos 27/11/2009 No. 2196). No sale had taken place, the French authorities did not want to offend India who was a potential purchaser of the Rafale. One can also imagine that Paris is retissant to the idea of transferring technologies that could easily end up in the hands of Chinese manufacturers involved in the JF-17 program. The presence of Pakistan at Paris Air Show 2015 will be an opportunity to revive negotiations with Western manufacturers.

The problem is CHINA

 

[Windjammer]

JF-17 on Le-Bourget runway.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why in the name of business sense would PAF not send Thunders with IFR (even if not functional) to show improvement and progress from the last version shown in an international exhibition? No one is going to buy off the shelf, so why not show planned future capability?

 

[Viper0011.]

JF-17 on Le-Bourget runway.

They did it again!!! If you guys want to market this correctly, then you needed to send the Block II with the IFR probe and two BVR's on the wingtip. They say that a picture says a thousand words. Its true here.

The one on the static display, ALSO needs to have a pair of the BVR missiles at the least. That would be very important and it'll have a force multiplier effect on potential customers, who'd see this bird. Marketing guys, marketing, chicks in all commercials are made to look perfect, whether in real life, they may be missing teeth. No one wants to buy a product that never shows up as complete, when within 2 minutes of walking distant gives you more expensive but many complete products with higher end. So for a cheaper platform, you need a much prettier chick (the static model in this case, all loaded up).

 

[fatman17]

An interesting 'artist's impression' of a JF-17 Block-II with an in-flight refuelling probe, GBU-12 LGBs, WMD-7 Pod on the centreline station and CCS markings.

Some reshuffling has been done in the squadrons. The transfers so far to CCS are as follows,

10-120 (26 Sqn)
11-130 (16 Sqn)
12-141 (26 Sqn)
10-125 (16 Sqn)
10-117 (26 Sqn)

While the birds from the last batch, except the 41st for now, have replaced the ones given to CCS in their respective squadrons.

Pictures on JF-17 induction in CCS – 26-Jan-2015 - PAFwallpapers Blog

CCS always gets its aircraft from other existing squadrons.

 

[fatman17]

The problem is CHINA

It's an excuse to mollify the US. France has exported a lot of technology to the Chinese. The most by an EU country.

 

[MastanKhan]

They did it again!!! If you guys want to market this correctly, then you needed to send the Block II with the IFR probe and two BVR's on the wingtip. They say that a picture says a thousand words. Its true here.

The one on the static display, ALSO needs to have a pair of the BVR missiles at the least. That would be very important and it'll have a force multiplier effect on potential customers, who'd see this bird. Marketing guys, marketing, chicks in all commercial are made to look perfect, whether in real life, they may be missing teeth. No one wants to buy a product that never shows up as complete, when within 2 minutes of walking distant gives you more expensive but many complete products with higher end. So for a cheaper platform, you need a much prettier chick (the static model in this case, all loaded up).

Hi,
Sell the Sizzle---Not the steak----car sales 101

 

[syedali73]

Why in the name of business sense would PAF not send Thunders with IFR (even if not functional) to show improvement and progress from the last version shown in an international exhibition? No one is going to buy off the shelf, so why not show planned future capability?

Because PAF knows nobody is going to buy JF-17 so why wasting time on installing an IFR probe or hanging SD-10s even the fake ones. Have you not seen official PAF calendar? Are you still in any delusion that PAF can do anything positive with regards to marketing?

 

[monitor]

JF-17 on Le-Bourget runway.

looking sexy is this flown directly to France from Pakistan or by other means ?

 

[Manticore]

 

[Windjammer]

looking sexy is this flown directly to France from Pakistan or by other means ?

Flown all the way with obviously some refuelling stops along the way. No mean feat repeatedly flying a single engine aircraft to the other side of the world without a glitch.

They did it again!!! If you guys want to market this correctly, then you needed to send the Block II with the IFR probe and two BVR's on the wingtip. They say that a picture says a thousand words. Its true here.

The one on the static display, ALSO needs to have a pair of the BVR missiles at the least. That would be very important and it'll have a force multiplier effect on potential customers, who'd see this bird. Marketing guys, marketing, chicks in all commercial are made to look perfect, whether in real life, they may be missing teeth. No one wants to buy a product that never shows up as complete, when within 2 minutes of walking distant gives you more expensive but many complete products with higher end. So for a cheaper platform, you need a much prettier chick (the static model in this case, all loaded up).

Indeed, can't comment on the absence of IFR as that facility has been displayed on the JF-17.
The picture was captured at the end of ferry flight which I'm sure you will agree, requires more fuel than weapon load. However, the static platform would have all the teeth and claws on full display.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

looking sexy is this flown directly to France from Pakistan or by other means ?

It have 3000 KM range .. so can't make a direct flight from Pakistan to France ... JF17 should have refuelled somewhere

 

[Meejee]

What a crisp pic (the first one). One of the very few with such a sharp focus. Congrats to the photographer and thanks for sharing.

 

[nomi007]

JF-17 on Le-Bourget runway.

engine nozzle need modification like ej-200
2nd need to integrate helmet mount display

 

[nomi007]

weather will be clear next few days
but thunder roar is expected