Japan’s fear of China

[大汉奸柳传志]

japan will be made an example of by the year 2037. getting away with one's crimes for a century is already beyond absurdity

Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China

Japanese people are considered the best behaved and respectful tourists of the World

Japan gave many loans to China during the opening up policy which is the reason China developed

you only saw their facade

 

[Foinikas]

Japanese hate and fear Chinese for the same reason Germans feared and hated Russians in the end of WW2. But Germans have paid for their crimes and were forgiven long time ago. Japan on the contrary have not paid the price for its crimes against China. And this outstanding check haunts them to nightmares.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not punishment enough?

 

[Beast]

Japan is a peaceful country where people have freedom of religion they are not Communist like Russia and China

Japanese people are considered the best behaved and respectful tourists of the World

Japan gave many loans to China during the opening up policy which is the reason China developed

Japan invaded and killed millions of asian and westerner during WWII in the name of freedom and liberty at pretense of their imperial ambition. Until now these Japanese still worship Tojo and many A class WWII Japanese criminal.

Japan is also one of the few countries legalise pervertive **** which dehumanise woman merely as sex toy. Anybody who worship Japan or think they are role model need to get their head check.

 

[aziqbal]

Japan invaded and killed millions of asian and westerner during WWII in the name of freedom and liberty at pretense of their imperial ambition. Until now these Japanese still worship Tojo and many A class WWII Japanese criminal.

Japan is also one of the few countries legalise pervertive **** which dehumanise woman merely as sex toy.

what has that got to do with Japanese people today ?

Chinese also killed many people in 1950 when they invaded Tibet total massacre of local populations

 

[Beast]

what has that got to do with Japanese people today ?

Chinese also killed many people in 1950 when they invaded Tibet total massacre of local populations

Typical smearing tactics. There is no proof of Tibet massacre beside those self proclaimed western source like western article claim 10 million uighur living in concentration camp.

While the fact of Japanese killing millions of innocent people in WWII are facts even US recognized.

If Japanese people need to do away what their ancestor did, they shall be brave enough to admit their mistake?

Who is the Japanese who still worship A class WWII criminal? Don't tell me is the ghost of the past who did that now?

 

[aziqbal]

Typical smearing tactics. There is no proof of Tibet massacre beside those self proclaimed western source like western article claim 10 million uighur living in concentration camp.

While the fact of Japanese killing millions of innocent people in WWII are facts even US recognized.

If Japanese people need to do away what their ancestor did, they shall be brave enough to admit their mistake?

Who is the Japanese who still worship A class WWII criminal? Don't tell me is the ghost of the past who did that now?

Japan was 1st Asian country to industrialise so off course it was going to war since 1860s reform

anyone who industrialised 1st in 1900s went to war

China didnt they were left behind

 

[Beast]

Japan was 1st Asian country to industrialise so off course it was going to war since 1860s reform

anyone who industrialised 1st in 1900s went to war

China didnt they were left behind

China is the first Asian country to land a rover on Mars, something which Russia and ESA still struggle until now.... While Japan is no where to be seen

More or less tells u which Asian country is the leader in technology and advancement.

We look forward to future and don't dwell on history.

 

[Zsari]

But the general attitude though,the antagonism toward UK(who never apologized nor paid any reparation fees) let alone US and other western nations,to Japan (which apologized many many times and paid hundreds of billions as reparation) is totally different.China don't care about Union Jack but jumps in Korean anti rising sun band wagon.
I think a big miscalculation Chinese thinktank make is that,Japan fears Chinese military provocations,and that such antagonism yields results,all the threats and posturing might be effective against the like of India ,Bangladesh but not high IQ and capable nation like Japan. Only thing preventing the Japan from full wota is their own public's anti militarism sentiment,regardless of what nation it's against. The more China provokes,the easier Japanese hardliners will be able to push for militarization. Japan is mentally cool like ice in the vein,they are much more formidable enemy than India and a de facto nuclear power of much greater magnitude than India is.

Japan on Monday: How many times do we need to apologize?
Japan on Tuesday: It never happened, its all a lie.

You worry too much. China has been dealing with Japan for over a thousand years. Japan has no remorse slaughtering the weak while worshipping the strong. It will never repent, and for its lack of natural resources, it will inevitably seek to expand. While the US has put it on leash for now, in 300 years, Japanese expansionism will be back. China has seen the pattern over the over again. As long as China isn't caught right in the middle of its dynastic cycle like last time when that happens, it'll be fine.

Japan was 1st Asian country to industrialise so off course it was going to war since 1860s reform

anyone who industrialised 1st in 1900s went to war

China didnt they were left behind

And how you explain away Japanese invasion of Korea in 1592 or in 663?

 

[Leishangthem]

Japan on Monday: How many times do we need to apologize?
Japan on Tuesday: It never happened, its all a lie.

You worry too much. China has been dealing with Japan for over a thousand years. Japan has no remorse slaughtering the weak while worshipping the strong. It will never repent, and for its lack of natural resources, it will inevitably seek to expand. While the US has put it on leash for now, in 300 years, Japanese expansionism will be back. China has seen the pattern over the over again.

Japan on Monday: How many times do we need to apologize?
Japan on Tuesday: It never happened, its all a lie.

Those are totally different things though.
Japan did apologized for invading,which is fact,regardless of anything else.They also acknowledge that many hardship were caused during the period of war between KMT & Japan.
Japanese gov has iterated nothing but an apology.
You can't expect every Japnese to think the same,keep asking for forgiveness ,cowtow and accept whatever political hack Chinese or Korean politicians cooks up for local political theater,no democratic nation in the world will operate as such.

Japan has no remorse slaughtering the weak while worshipping the strong. It will never repent, and for its lack of natural resources, it will inevitably seek to expand. While the US has put it on leash for now, in 300 years, Japanese expansionism will be back. China has seen the pattern over the over again.

To be honest,nearby southeast asian nations will be lucky if japan bothered expanding into them.Their development,living standard would be revolutionized. But no realistic person would agree that Japan has any plan to expand,nor does it need to do so in ERA of unfretted logistics. From Japan's perspective, the national security threat is right at its border,Russia,China ,Korea. Meanwhile,before WW2,the Japanese expansion was also a means to prevent its own annexation by encirclement of Japan by western colonizers. Without Japan liberating asian nations one by one,the west might have still kept their colonies. And the consequence of any longer western colonization in Asia might have been much dire,for all asian nation. Japan invaded manchuria ,that kept the soviet locked out of getting a strangle hold of Manchuria and from accessing a pivot to penetrate in Japan,Korea & China.That was most vital and positive for China itself in the grand scheme.

 

[tower9]

I know the Chinese and Japanese hate each other,but personally I love Japan. It's my most favorite Far East asian country.

Now the Chinese will hate me even more,I'm sorry guys. I like China and I don't have something against you. We may disagree on the Taiwan matter,but that doesn't mean I hate China. On the contrary. But I love Japan. Many people do.

I mean, you're saying this like it would come as a surprise to any of us. Considering how much the media disparages and demonizes China, someone from West would have to have had to do a lot of critical thinking, personal research and maybe personal travel to gain enough experiences to not only dispel those negative impressions of China, but to like China more than Japan, which is a country celebrated in the Western media. Think about it.

With that said, I am always very honest about comparisons, Japanese are undoubtedly more polite, more pleasant in general as tourists than Chinese are. Why is that? Well Japan has been richer and more developed for far longer and during that time, it has been able to cultivate its culture and mannerisms more. Younger Chinese are way more polite, urbane acting than middle aged or older Chinese, because they grew up in a much richer and more civilized country. But to be quite honest, the Japanese are so polite that they do it to a fault. Saying that the Japanese are more well behaved than the Chinese doesn't really mean anything because honestly they are more well behaved than the people of any other country including yours, so it doesn't really mean anything. But I feel like a lot of Westerners make this comparison because they have this hate boner against China.

Secondly, you won't hear about the amazing historical sites or amazing cities in China from the Western media. When you ask most Westerners if they want to visit Asia, they will talk about Japan or Thailand but they'd think China was like a huge North Korea, which is absurd. China has historical sites on a level of size, scale and epicness that cannot be found in most of the other Asian countries, including Japan. But Westerners are not aware of them, so it is like they don't exist. Westerners also do not realize how technologically advanced, sophisticated and wealthy many Chinese cities are like nowadays but they'll fawn over Tokyo's 90's era infrastructure and go "Wooowwww, Japan is living in the future!!!"

So again, I don't blame you at all. But just know that your knowledge about China is heavily influenced by what you hear and see in the media, which is naturally predisposed to be negative against China.

 

[Zsari]

Those are totally different things though.
Japan did apologized for invading,which is fact,regardless of anything else.They also acknowledge that many hardship were caused during the period of war between KMT & Japan.
Japanese gov has iterated nothing but an apology.
You can't expect every Japnese to think the same,keep asking for forgiveness ,cowtow and accept whatever political hack Chinese or Korean politicians cooks up for local political theater,no democratic nation in the world will operate as such.

To be honest,nearby southeast asian nations will be lucky if japan bothered expanding into them.Their development,living standard would be revolutionized. But no realistic person would agree that Japan has any plan to expand,nor does it need to do so in ERA of unfretted logistics. From Japan's perspective, the national security threat is right at its border,Russia,China ,Korea. Meanwhile,before WW2,the Japanese expansion was also a means to prevent its own annexation by encirclement of Japan by western colonizers. Without Japan liberating asian nations one by one,the west might have still kept their colonies. And the consequence of any longer western colonization in Asia might have been much dire,for all asian nation. Japan invaded manchuiria ,that kept the soviet out and getting a strangle hold of manchuria thus accessing a pivot to penetrate in Japan,Korea & China.That was most vital and positive for China itself in the grand scheme.
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Every Japanese? More like every Japanese government apologizes while working to remove the evidence and deny its past aggression. And you are one of those helping to whitewash history. I'll post the same question to you, how are you justifying Japanese invasion of Korea in 1592 and 663?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not punishment enough?

How is that a punishment? That's an excuse to play the victim card.

 

[Brainsucker]

Even if the Quad wins a war with China, US will take 90% war dividend. This is the tragedy of being puppet country. More pay but less repay.

It is no matter for Japan. As long as China is beaten, their economy can move again. They need only to make China to close it's door again, like in Mao era. If China close the door like in their cultural revolution era, US, DPP Taiwan and Japan win. Why, because it is the battle of economy and influence that they seek. They want to erode China hegemony, and make them the enemy of everyone in the world.

 

[Khan1988]

japan will be made an example of by the year 2037. getting away with one's crimes for a century is already beyond absurdity

When one suffers the "crimes for a century" they know the pain and they do not inflict on others the same pains. Case in point is China's genocide of Uyghurs.

 

[Foinikas]

I mean, you're saying this like it would come as a surprise to any of us. Considering how much the media disparages and demonizes China, someone from West would have to have had to do a lot of critical thinking, personal research and maybe personal travel to gain enough experiences to not only dispel those negative impressions of China, but to like China more than Japan, which is a country celebrated in the Western media. Think about it.

With that said, I am always very honest about comparisons, Japanese are undoubtedly more polite, more pleasant in general as tourists than Chinese are. Why is that? Well Japan has been richer and more developed for far longer and during that time, it has been able to cultivate its culture and mannerisms more. Younger Chinese are way more polite, urbane acting than middle aged or older Chinese, because they grew up in a much richer and more civilized country. But to be quite honest, the Japanese are so polite that they do it to a fault. Saying that the Japanese are more well behaved than the Chinese doesn't really mean anything because honestly they are more well behaved than the people of any other country including yours, so it doesn't really mean anything. But I feel like a lot of Westerners make this comparison because they have this hate boner against China.

Secondly, you won't hear about the amazing historical sites or amazing cities in China from the Western media. When you ask most Westerners if they want to visit Asia, they will talk about Japan or Thailand but they'd think China was like a huge North Korea, which is absurd. China has historical sites on a level of size, scale and epicness that cannot be found in most of the other Asian countries, including Japan. But Westerners are not aware of them, so it is like they don't exist. Westerners also do not realize how technologically advanced, sophisticated and wealthy many Chinese cities are like nowadays but they'll fawn over Tokyo's 90's era infrastructure and go "Wooowwww, Japan is living in the future!!!"

So again, I don't blame you at all. But just know that your knowledge about China is heavily influenced by what you hear and see in the media, which is naturally predisposed to be negative against China.

No it's not that,I just like their culture,language,history and other stuff more. Their pop culture for example.

I don't know about other countries,but in Greece we know that China has a very rich culture,history and one of the most sophisticated civilizations. All that at least,before communism.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

No it's not that,I just like their culture,language,history and other stuff more. Their pop culture for example.

I don't know about other countries,but in Greece we know that China has a very rich culture,history and one of the most sophisticated civilizations. All that at least,before communism.

No it seems like your history skipped the oppression that the British, Japanese and ROC (Taiwan) military regime inflicted on China between 1843 and 1949. And you are not interested in learning why China is the way it is today.