Japanese Warships Train with U.S. Carrier in South China Sea

[sinait]

It's simple..

Pack up and abandon Fiery Cross Reef, Mischief Reef, and Subi Reef, then no more USN+JMSDF cruising together in SCS.

But of course, because you support the 9 dash line and those bases on those three reefs, you won't acknowledge that point.
Some more pictures.

Make them pack up and leave, talk is CHEAP.
No point showing pictures or wasting fuel on feckless FON.
We still remember the atrocities committed by the babaric Japanese.
In you dreams you think we had forgotten that.
Our government keep reminding us of your brutal and cannibal ways.

We have a new building to give it the significance these Japanese atrocities deserved.
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New World War II exhibition to open at former Ford Factory
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[Suika]

I already said this the chinese have to be evicted out of BOTH the paracels and spartlys. If they r still controlling these two archipelagos they will use them as a base to launch their ships n planes to harass their neighbors for now n international ships in the future.

If they stayed with just the Paracels, it would be of little problem. They would have to just work it out with the Vietnamese.

But the Spratly's.. they have to leave the three big bases. The smaller 4 are similar to scale with those of the ASEAN countries so are not really a big problem. Its the big three. But the failure to strike a middle compromise by them might just as result in the losing all of it.

 

[powastick]

It's simple..

Pack up and abandon Fiery Cross Reef, Mischief Reef, and Subi Reef, then no more USN+JMSDF cruising together in SCS.

But of course, because you support the 9 dash line and those bases on those three reefs, you won't acknowledge that point.

Some more pictures.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1972701009458274

Both must withdraw. But right now, Japan and US are escalating things. I never said I supported 9 dash line but I disagree on US provocation. Which they do not have any interest in ASEAN resolving it but instead use it as propaganda to attack China.

 

[Suika]

Both must withdraw. But right now, Japan and US are escalating things. I never said I supported 9 dash line but I disagree on US provocation.

Navy ships can be made to stop coming easily. But closing those air bases and getting off the reefs have to happen first.

 

[powastick]

Navy ships can be made to stop coming easily. But closing those air bases and getting off the reefs have to happen first.

Yeah sure, like China going to demolish the air field. How about removing US airbase in Okinawa? Why play a part in China containment? What happen to "Japan is not against the raise of China" which your ambassador said? You guys knew China isn't going to do that, your motives aren't sincere.

 

[Suika]

Yeah sure, like China going to demolish the air field. How about removing US airbase in Okinawa?

That's business between the US and Japan which doesn't violate any territory of any other country.

Stick with just the Paracel's as your buffer for Hainan. And work with the Vietnamese on that.

Yeah sure, like China going to demolish the air field. How about removing US airbase in Okinawa? Why play a part in China containment? What happen to "Japan is not against the raise of China" which your ambassador said? You guys knew China isn't going to do that, your motives aren't sincere.

On the last sentence, can't call guilty until they do it. They gone and done it. Can't be helped now unless they undo it.

 

[powastick]

That's business between the US and Japan which doesn't violate any territory of any other country.

Then this is ASEAN business, if you want your war, go play in the middle east sand box.

On the last sentence, can't call guilty until they do it. They gone and done it. Can't be helped now unless they undo it.

I seriously doubt US wants SCS to resolve peacefully. SCS will be the new North Korea. East Asia got suckered. Permanent conflicts only helps US to stay relevant.

 

[Suika]

Then this is ASEAN business, if you want your war, go play in the middle east sand box.

I seriously doubt US wants SCS to resolve peacefully. SCS will be the new North Korea. East Asia got suckered. Permanent conflicts only helps US to stay relevant.

Duterte visited JS Kaga and JS Izumi. Vietnam as happy with Japanese involvement. Quit speaking as if you represent all of ASEAN. Your trolling is embarrassing.

The US did nothing when China went in and,made the bases. They did nothing when Chinese coast guard ships rammed Vietnamese boats. The US also did nothing when Chinese coast guard ships kicked the Filipino fishermen out of Scarborough Shoal. No, I think the US doesn't want to do anything with the SCS. But three big bases in international waters is a no go.

 

[powastick]

Duterte visited JS Kaga and JS Izumi. Vietnam as happy with Japanese involvement. Quit speaking as if you represent all of ASEAN. Your trolling is embarrassing.

The US did nothing when China went in and,made the bases. They did nothing when Chinese coast guard ships rammed Vietnamese boats. The US also did nothing when Chinese coast guard ships kicked the Filipino fishermen out of Scarborough Shoal. No, I think the US doesn't want to do anything with the SCS. But three big bases in international waters is a no go.

ASEAN did not want those ships from both sides while Duterte have keep insisting he didn't want war. Visiting ships doesn't meant anything, he himself also visited Chinese Ship. If Vietnam wants it, it won't not be ASEAN. The United States was provoking China and trying to turn China's neighbours against China even way before the Island being reclaimed. US can't pretend as innocent. If Vietnam wants to go against ASEAN consensus, be my guest. After all they are the one who actually started this. US always been US, never heard of pivot to Asia? The one should be embarrass is you.

 

[Suika]

ASEAN did not want those ships from both sides while Duterte have keep insisting he didn't want war. Visiting ships doesn't meant anything, he himself also visited Chinese Ship. If Vietnam wants it, it won't not be ASEAN. The United States was provoking China and trying to turn China's neighbours against China even way before the Island being reclaimed. US can't pretend as innocent. If Vietnam wants to go against ASEAN consensus, be my guest. After all they are the one who actually started this. US always been US, never heard of pivot to Asia? The one should be embarrass is you.

Sure he visited Chinese navy ships. He visited Russian ships too. But visiting Japan's means approval. If he didn't want them to balance China, he wouldn't visit them. The philippines also recieved 10 patrol boats and 5 patrol airplanes from Japan. He has said Japanese navy ships are welcomed in Philippine waters anytime. He had Abe visit his personnal humble home.

You're in denial.

Obama's pivot? The same pivot and so-called Kangaroo court that everyone here laughed at? Those weren't doing anything. The weakness of those were taken as it being ok for China to expand and bully other ASEAN countries.

 

[powastick]

Sure he visited Chinese navy ships. He visited Russian ships too. But visiting Japan's means approval. If he didn't want them to balance China, he wouldn't visit them.

You are talking non-sense here. Nothing wrong with balance approach. Your militarization is unwelcome.

Obama's pivot? The same pivot and so-called Kangaroo court that everyone here laughed at? Those weren't doing anything. The weakness of those were taken as it being ok for China to expand and bully other ASEAN countries.

Peaceful settlement isn't a weakness. You think ASEAN have middle East mentality. Look where they are today. I don't trust a country whose economy relies on murdering people.

 

[Suika]

You are talking non-sense here. Nothing wrong with balance approach. Your militarization is unwelcome.


Peaceful settlement isn't a weakness. You think ASEAN have middle East mentality. Look where they are today. I don't trust a country whose economy relies on murdering people.

Again, it was China that rammed Vietnamese boats, not the US. It was China that pushed out and blocked Filipino fisherman from Scarborough Shoal, not the US. It was China that built three large airbases in International waters, entirely unannounced, one of which is inside the Philippines' EEZ. Not the US. The ME is an entirely different topic and an entirely different region. To use the ME as a cause indicates the shortage of counter points for this region.

 

[powastick]

Again, it was China that rammed Vietnamese boats, not the US. It was China that pushed out and blocked Filipino fisherman from Scarborough Shoal, not the US. It was China that built three large airbases in International waters, entirely unannounced, one of which is inside the Philippines' EEZ. Not the US. The ME is an entirely different topic and an entirely different region. To use the ME as a cause indicates the shortage of counter points for this region.

It is the Vietnamese who wants to break the status quo just like Japan did with Senkaku. Why didn't you mentioned the oil drill? Why didn't you mention Vietnam land reclamation? Oh why didn't you mention that deliberate ship ran aground by Philippines. US has the reputation in provoking the region against China way back before SCS. And trying to turn this region into Ukraine and middle East strategy would fail. Give it up. Otherwise why even bother to send ships.

 

[Suika]

It is the Vietnamese who wants to break the status quo just like Japan did with Senkaku. Why didn't you mentioned the oil drill? Why didn't you mention Vietnam land reclamation? Oh why didn't you mention that deliberate ship ran aground by Philippines. US has the reputation in provoking the region against China way back before SCS. And trying to turn this region into Ukraine and middle East strategy would fail. Give it up. Otherwise why even bother to send ships.

What started it all was China's old 9 dash line relic. Why should the surrounding countries accept it? Other reclamation islands were tiny and harmless and more of a play thing. It all changed when China escalated the situation by making the big three ones. Instead of China a leadership role in ironng out resolutions, they just claim it all, and pursued actually policy on it. All those tiny outposts by the others also do not threaten free passage of trade. China's three big ones do. It is China that changed the status que in the region.

The Senkaku islands belong to Japan. Chinamade up the claim in the early 1970s. That is another example of trying change the status que.

Any history before WW2 is invalid and is just an excuse. Did the US threaten China in the 1980s? 1990s? 2000s? No. Instead the US enabled China to join the WTO, a godsend for the Chinese economy. Did the US threaten China during its economic raise? No they didn't. And they let China bully the ASEAN countries in order to not bother the economic relation between the US and China, which seem to emboldened China to try expanding even more. Well they crossedthe line with three large air bases. Lets not make pretend that all the hot headed chinese posters were excited and laughing and mocking the US and booasting confidence about their gains in the South China Sea. Now what we have is a change, "China was provoked" into expanding in the South China Sea. Utterly pathetic, cowardly, and stubborn. And you know. Just another troll, once a hot-head, now crying foul.

Leave Mischief Reef, Subi Reef, and Firery Cross Reef. And drop the 9 dash line. The Kangaroo court was a soft gentle warning. China took it as an invitation to keep pressing instead. Only going to get worse for China if they keep it up...

 

[powastick]

What started it all was China's old 9 dash line relic. Why should the surrounding countries accept it? Other reclamation islands were tiny and harmless and more of a play thing. It all changed when China escalated the situation by making the big three ones. Instead of China a leadership role in ironng out resolutions, they just claim it all, and pursued actually policy on it. All those tiny outposts by the others also do not threaten free passage of trade. China's three big ones do. It is China that changed the status que in the region.

The Senkaku islands belong to Japan. Chinamade up the claim in the early 1970s. That is another example of trying change the status que.

Any history before WW2 is invalid and is just an excuse. Did the US threaten China in the 1980s? 1990s? 2000s? No. Instead the US enabled China to join the WTO, a godsend for the Chinese economy. Did the US threaten China during its economic raise? No they didn't. And they let China bully the ASEAN countries in order to not bother the economic relation between the US and China, which seem to emboldened China to try expanding even more. Well they crossedthe line with three large air bases. Lets not make pretend that all the hot headed chinese posters were excited and laughing and mocking the US and booasting confidence about their gains in the South China Sea. Now what we have is a change, "China was provoked" into expanding in the South China Sea. Utterly pathetic, cowardly, and stubborn. And you know. Just another troll, once a hot-head, now crying foul.

Leave Mischief Reef, Subi Reef, and Firery Cross Reef. And drop the 9 dash line. The Kangaroo court was a soft gentle warning. China took it as an invitation to keep pressing instead. Only going to get worse for China if they keep it up...

Sure nobody in ASEAN would accept the 9 dash line, the problem is US escalation of the problem. US has no intention of solving SCS problem, but instead prolonging it. The Kangaroo court is stupid, is not even legit. Who in the right mind would Taiping Island a rock. If you want to fight China, go to your Senkaku and have your fight and bring US. Don't bring your wars here.