Japan’s Stealth Fighter Gambit

[typhoon77]

If the Japanese feel sufficiently threatened, and they do not considered within a few months as we normally do but in years, they can build an F-22 near equivalent in very short time.

Agreed, the lack of an actual threat is whats keeping the ATD-X from being fully developed. Most of the work for the ATD-X has been done hasn't it??

 

[houshanghai]

looks like a stealth f15

 

[gambit]

Agreed, the lack of an actual threat is whats keeping the ATD-X from being fully developed. Most of the work for the ATD-X has been done hasn't it??

It would be foolish to assume otherwise. The Japanese are quite like the American DARPA in many ways, in that they invest heavily in the exploratory phase of any technology and simply cache that knowledge away for future usage.

 

[typhoon77]

It would be foolish to assume otherwise. The Japanese are quite like the American DARPA in many ways, in that they invest heavily in the exploratory phase of any technology and simply cache that knowledge away for future usage.

Do you know what is the proposed engine? Is Japan going to design one from scratch?? Or will they use one from P&W or GE?? Wikipedia says that its going to be developed indigenously and its 10-20 tons of thrust. Its wiki so I take it with a grain of salt but 10-20K thrust per engine is incredibly low. Its also supposedly smaller than the Gripen, which make no sense (your internal weapons bay is going to be small as hell). It would have issues with combat range.

 

[Luftwaffe]

That is why I'm saying japan will ask US for JV project similar to F-2. It is next to impossible for Japan to develop an engine from the scratch here again US engines will come to power someday ATD-X. Remember F-1 cost over runs..Now they are planning for a stealth imagine the cost.

 

[casual]

never underestimate the japanese. i have no doubt that they have the technology to achieve this. however, gathering up the money and political will to commit to this fighter would be tough.

good looking fighter.

 

[Dragon Emperor]

It would be foolish to assume otherwise. The Japanese are quite like the American DARPA in many ways, in that they invest heavily in the exploratory phase of any technology and simply cache that knowledge away for future usage.

You praise Japan way too much. Your country's military technology is ahead of Japan and i don't believe that Japan can make a stealth jet nearing the capability of the F-22.

 

[illuzioN]

Japan has a great military as we speak.

only getting better from here

 

[desiman]

Japanese are still far Away , i read some where on internet that they poses 60% of technology of a complete Aircraft.

The Japanese are world leader in everything, please know what your talking about.

 

[Skull and Bones]

You praise Japan way too much. Your country's military technology is ahead of Japan and i don't believe that Japan can make a stealth jet nearing the capability of the F-22.

Japan is the only country able to develop and field an AESA radar onboard their F-2 after US(that too in 2001, just 2 years after US did), so do some relevant research before posting. And as of now, no can develop a stealth fighter close to F-22.

 

[SomeGuy]

Japan is the only country able to develop and field an AESA radar onboard their F-2 after US(that too in 2001, just 2 years after US did), so do some relevant research before posting. And as of now, no can develop a stealth fighter close to F-22.

Did they develop it indigenously or was that also part of the tech transfer from USA?

 

[SomeGuy]

The Japanese are world leader in everything, please know what your talking about.

Japan is a world leader in a lot of things, but to say that they are world leaders in everything is a bit much.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

The Japanese are world leader in everything, please know what your talking about.

In military matters no.

Their military hardware is either

1. license produced American weapons. ie Kawasaki OH 1, Mitsubishi F 15, Mitsubishi f 4

2. directly bought from America. ie Lockheed P 3, MLRS

3. Heavily based on existing US platforms. ie F 2, CX

4. Full of American subsystems, and armnament. ie Kongo class

5. average analogues of other modern equipment self produced.

They are perhaps 50 percent self sufficient on military weapons. Most of the truly high end weapons like fighters, and missiles are either directly imported or license produced.

So its actually you who has no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Luftwaffe]

After WWI, the only operational fighter they came up with was F-1 with huge overrun costs. They maybe good at the civilian airliners producing a Jet and that too Stealth is hard many of the systems/sub systems will definitely come directly from US again possibility of US involving in ATD-X project is likely.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Did they develop it indigenously or was that also part of the tech transfer from USA?

They did develop it indigenously, which was later examined examined by Raytheon officials and found to be lacking in some areas and software glitches and has about 810 T/R modules. But has advanced jamming capability.