Japan make cut price to ink aircraft deal with India

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Japan may cut price to ink aircraft deal with India
Sachin Parashar | TNN | 4 hours ago

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Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. (AP file photo)
HIGHLIGHTS

• Japan would look at reducing the price for the $1.6 billion aircraft deal.
• If this agreement happens, it will have a very favourable impact on our relations with India, said a Japanese defence ministry official.

NEW DELHI: Japan is negotiating the sale of Shinmaywa US-2 search and rescue aircraft with India not for any economic gain but because it considers India a friendly country, Tokyo has said amid reports that the deal for 12 amphibious aircraft had collapsed over pricing and technology transfer issues.

Top Japanese defence ministry sources told TOI in an exclusive interaction that they would look at reducing the price for the $ 1.6 billion aircraft deal ?as much as possible, in a fresh attempt to revive the negotiations.

The agreement, if it happens, will have a huge symbolic significance as a message to China about deepening defence and security cooperation between India and Japan, both victims of Chinese territorial aggression.

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"Our position is that if this agreement happens, it will have a very favourable impact on our relations with India,'' said a Japanese defence ministry official.

"We understand there are some consultations underwayin India over pricing. Pricing is determined by several factors. We are not doing this for economic gains but for our friendly relations with India and can look at reducing the price to the extent possible," added the official.

Japan is now hoping that there will be some progress in negotiations by the time PM Narendra Modi visits Tokyo later this year for the annual summit meet. Known for its short takeoff capability, the aircraft was meant to be deployed in the Andaman Nicobar Islands.

After Japan overturned its self-imposed 1967 ban on export of arms in 2014, India was expected to become the first country to purchase defence equipment from Japan with an agreement for US-2 aircraft. India and Japan had last year, after the summit meeting between Modiand his counterpart Shinzo Abe, signed an agreement for transfer of defence equipment and technology.

The 2 leaders had then said that they wanted to to deepen the bilateral defence relationship through two-way collaboration and technology cooperation, co-development and co-production. They had also expressed an intention to explore ``potential future projects on defence equipment and technology cooperation such as US-2 amphibian aircraft''.

The negotiations for the aircraft though were left in limbo with serious differences over pricing and India's demand that the aircraft come with state-of-the -art surveillance technology. Japanese officials, however, said there was no sensitive technology involved with the US-2 and wanted to treat it as a regular search and rescue seaplane only. India also wants co-production here as the government believes it can provide an impetus to the Make in India initiative. According to Japanese defence ministry officials, manufacturing in India would be feasible only if the agreement comprised sale of a certain number of aircraft. ``If the number is too few, it would not be cost effective for India,'' said the official.

Maritime security is one of the key areas in Japan's cooperation with India. Japan, which is now participating regularly in India's Malabar exercise with the US, has encouraged India to speak up on issues related to South China Sea. Japan is currently having to contend with an increasing assertive China in East China Sea where Chinese vessels continue to enter Japanese territorial waters in large numbers. While the Chinese coast guard have repeatedly ventured into Japan's contiguous zone and territorial seas near Senkaku (Chinese call it Diaoyu) islands, a Chinese navy vessel entered the contiguous zone for the first time in June this year. Japanese authorities see this as fresh escalation by China.

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @Nilgiri @gslv mk3

 

[Alphacharlie]

My Japanese Friends

This Deal is needed by "YOU" More than "US"

By this Deal you will give a Message we are Out of mourning for World War -II & Aftermath.
By this Deal you will give a Message we are Ready for Arms Business - WAKE UP "Challenger"

You have already scared the Freckles our of Chinese by Your Defence Posturing.

But Real Game Changer will be When you sell SORYU Class for project 75I--
This will give a Message "Sun has Risen Again "
"Tenno Heika Banzai"

 

[wiseone2]

My Japanese Friends

This Deal is needed by "YOU" More than "US"

By this Deal you will give a Message we are Out of mourning for World War -II & Aftermath.
By this Deal you will give a Message we are Ready for Arms Business - WAKE UP "Challenger"

You have already scared the Freckles our of Chinese by Your Defence Posturing.

But Real Game Changer will be When you sell SORYU Class for project 75I--
This will give a Message "Sun has Risen Again "
"Tenno Heika Banzai"

japanese can build a navy that can bloody anyone's nose

 

[Tshering22]

japanese can build a navy that can bloody anyone's nose

The problem is, they are still hesitant for heavens knows what reason.

Strengthening their share in military industry and strategic ties with India and Australia is something they should rapidly focus on.

Japan has for too long been in American shadow and now is hesitant and not confident about its own capabilities.

Modi ji must do his best to restore that confidence and assurance in Japan.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Japan may cut price to ink aircraft deal with India
Sachin Parashar | TNN | 4 hours ago

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Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe with Prime Minister Narendra Modi. (AP file photo)
HIGHLIGHTS

• Japan would look at reducing the price for the $1.6 billion aircraft deal.
• If this agreement happens, it will have a very favourable impact on our relations with India, said a Japanese defence ministry official.

NEW DELHI: Japan is negotiating the sale of Shinmaywa US-2 search and rescue aircraft with India not for any economic gain but because it considers India a friendly country, Tokyo has said amid reports that the deal for 12 amphibious aircraft had collapsed over pricing and technology transfer issues.

Top Japanese defence ministry sources told TOI in an exclusive interaction that they would look at reducing the price for the $ 1.6 billion aircraft deal ?as much as possible, in a fresh attempt to revive the negotiations.

The agreement, if it happens, will have a huge symbolic significance as a message to China about deepening defence and security cooperation between India and Japan, both victims of Chinese territorial aggression.

Skin breakthrough: 5 shades fairer in 14 daysAd Fit Mom Daily

"Our position is that if this agreement happens, it will have a very favourable impact on our relations with India,'' said a Japanese defence ministry official.

"We understand there are some consultations underwayin India over pricing. Pricing is determined by several factors. We are not doing this for economic gains but for our friendly relations with India and can look at reducing the price to the extent possible," added the official.

Japan is now hoping that there will be some progress in negotiations by the time PM Narendra Modi visits Tokyo later this year for the annual summit meet. Known for its short takeoff capability, the aircraft was meant to be deployed in the Andaman Nicobar Islands.

After Japan overturned its self-imposed 1967 ban on export of arms in 2014, India was expected to become the first country to purchase defence equipment from Japan with an agreement for US-2 aircraft. India and Japan had last year, after the summit meeting between Modiand his counterpart Shinzo Abe, signed an agreement for transfer of defence equipment and technology.

The 2 leaders had then said that they wanted to to deepen the bilateral defence relationship through two-way collaboration and technology cooperation, co-development and co-production. They had also expressed an intention to explore ``potential future projects on defence equipment and technology cooperation such as US-2 amphibian aircraft''.

The negotiations for the aircraft though were left in limbo with serious differences over pricing and India's demand that the aircraft come with state-of-the -art surveillance technology. Japanese officials, however, said there was no sensitive technology involved with the US-2 and wanted to treat it as a regular search and rescue seaplane only. India also wants co-production here as the government believes it can provide an impetus to the Make in India initiative. According to Japanese defence ministry officials, manufacturing in India would be feasible only if the agreement comprised sale of a certain number of aircraft. ``If the number is too few, it would not be cost effective for India,'' said the official.

Maritime security is one of the key areas in Japan's cooperation with India. Japan, which is now participating regularly in India's Malabar exercise with the US, has encouraged India to speak up on issues related to South China Sea. Japan is currently having to contend with an increasing assertive China in East China Sea where Chinese vessels continue to enter Japanese territorial waters in large numbers. While the Chinese coast guard have repeatedly ventured into Japan's contiguous zone and territorial seas near Senkaku (Chinese call it Diaoyu) islands, a Chinese navy vessel entered the contiguous zone for the first time in June this year. Japanese authorities see this as fresh escalation by China.

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @Nilgiri @gslv mk3

This deal falls under "nice to have". It isn't a priority right now, maybe in 2-3 years the deal could emerge but not right now.

 

[freeskylord]

The problem is, they are still hesitant for heavens knows what reason.

Strengthening their share in military industry and strategic ties with India and Australia is something they should rapidly focus on.

Japan has for too long been in American shadow and now is hesitant and not confident about its own capabilities.

Modi ji must do his best to restore that confidence and assurance in Japan.

Because they have beared two nuclear attacks. And I guess no one else would know the aftermath except the Japnese.

 

[cerberus]

This deal falls under "nice to have". It isn't a priority right now, maybe in 2-3 years the deal could emerge but not right now.

Better Order More Stuff From MKU For Troops which is Essential

 

[Skull and Bones]

We need their submarines more than anything, specially at the backdrop of Scorpene.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Better Order More Stuff From MKU For Troops which Essential

This can be done when the procedures are sorted out, there is ample budget returned every year that could go to new gear for the troops but the IA's policies and procedures are so archaic and pathetic. There needs to be a HUGE change in the IA's mindset.

 

[R!CK]

We need their submarines more than anything, specially at the backdrop of Scorpene.

Soryu's are great to have but Japan's lack of experience in foreign projects puts a huge question mark over it. While off-the-shelf purchases could be free of issues, MII project could host several huge bottle-necks. This is one of the main question even Australians had to consider for SEA1000. Anyways lets wait and see.

Good Day!

 

[cerberus]

This can be done when the procedures are sorted out, there is ample budget returned every year that could go to new gear for the troops but the IA's policies and procedures are so archaic and pathetic. There needs to be a HUGE change in the IA's mindset.

When i Saw Recent order of Bullet vests And helmets Its cost Mere few below 300 hundred crores
i was shocked.

Mind you Gens And DSPU Employees Spends More on Flight Tickets Under Allowance Which is Extra Which Added into the budget
This system is Rotten Every body wants its Pie in it

 

[Tshering22]

Because they have beared two nuclear attacks. And I guess no one else would know the aftermath except the Japnese.

Don't be so sure.

With the deranged fundamentalist neocon lunatics maintaining and calling shots in the US senate, it is possible that they could target any country in the future.

All the more reason why Japanese need to militarize faster and create their own strategic sphere of alliances. The day is not far when USA will back out from defending Japan. China in the last 20 years has raised the cost of a war so high that USA will not be willing to undertake it. Let's face it; China can cause devastation to the US mainland as much as it is likely to get destroyed. Chinese have built up their military so well that US will no longer be able to dominate in a sustained war with China.

And this is apart from the fact that Chinese hold the American economy by their nuts.

What can Japan do if all hands were to be lowered?

That is unless and until it militarizes.

When i Saw Recent order of Bullet vests And helmets Its cost Mere few below 300 hundred crores
i was shocked.

Mind you Gens And DSPU Employees Spends More on Flight Tickets Under Allowance Which is Extra Which Added into the budget
This system is Rotten Every body wants its Pie in it

This rot can only be stemmed if the number of layers of the process are eliminated and reduced drastically and all details are uploaded in a digital ecosystem, well guarded from cyber attacks.

Indian war machine is still far away from modernization in cyber arena.

 

[cerberus]

This rot can only be stemmed if the number of layers of the process are eliminated and reduced drastically and all details are uploaded in a digital ecosystem, well guarded from cyber attacks.

Indian war machine is still far away from modernization in cyber arena.

I Am talking about babu culture in MOD
I hope For it Mate but things aren't Changing Like has to be I Am Part of It I Know how Perk culture work in Mod

"I scratch your Back you Scratch Mine" Motto of Indian Bureaucracy

Unless We Set Up Properly Dedicated DOD LiKe Pentagon Where 90 % Staff is recruited from Military Background Including Desk Job things Won't Move in Pace we want

 

[Incog_nito]

Pakistan should also acquire similar aircraft for Coast Guards