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J-K not part of India, seeking plebiscite not a crime: Engineer Rashid

Demand for plebiscite is waste of money, time and internet data. Not even USA, China and Russia can dare threaten us on this issue.

geographically and culturally Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, Kashmiris not cow-ards to cross border, once occupying Hindian army is kicked out - peace and happiness will prevail in the valley
Geographically and culturally Pakistan is a subset of India. So cry me a river.
 
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And what is your point? Ofcourse Pakistan is not gonig to sit back on its arse and watch India swallow the land which belongs to Pakistan at first place. You need to read the history my son. Gordaspur, the only land route to Kashmir from what is now India back in 1947 was first few days after 14th August was part of Pakistan officially, but somehow the British overlords had a change of mind and gifted Gordaspur to India which later India used to send it troops to illegally occupy Kashmir. The plan was in motion to facilitate India control over Kashmir, Pakistan was left with no option but to respond which it did.
Is spewing nonsense your forte, kid? Looks like it.

Since when was Jammu & Kashmir part of Pakistan? Don't talk like an idiot!
 
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The is my friend is BULLSH|T. It was and always been the people of the state who would decide if they want to join Pakistan or India. No one person could have or would have decided the fate of millions. And for the argument sake, your perception is accepted, coming for so called country which believe in so called "democratic" system, you do understand that Nazim of Hyderabad state opted for Pakistan only to see his state being swallowed by Indian army.
I was expecting this and then you accuse me of derailing the thread. We are talking about Kashmir here. So please stick to the topic.
If we keep on hanging on what happened in the distant past then there will be no solution ever. The solution will only come by understanding the current scenarios, requirements, needs and future growth.

and FYI, do not mock India's democratic system. It is much much better than many others in the world. We are able to maintain it and enjoying it. Name me one country apart from India which has the same complexity like India, hundreds of different culture, thousands of languages, many different living religions and still a single entity? Compare it with Many Christians and Islamic countries with same religion, same culture but either become multiple countries in short period or have eliminated their minorities completely.
 
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Demand for plebiscite is waste of money, time and internet data. Not even USA, China and Russia can dare threaten us on this issue.


Geographically and culturally Pakistan is a subset of India. So cry me a river.
Who could threat to USSR in the past? Is India a superpower power of the world? How many countries come out from the abdomen of USSR? Why UK give the freedom to dozen of countries? Was UK not the super power of the world?
 
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Who could threat to USSR in the past? Is India a superpower power of the world? How many countries come out from the abdomen of USSR? Why UK give the freedom to dozen of countries? Was UK not the super power of the world?

UN has already dropped this and ask you to engage with us to resolve this imaginary issue.

So please stop pulling UN back because they are tired of your tantrums.

Be realistic and stop giving war economies an upper hand in the west. Live and let live.
 
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UN has already dropped this and ask you to engage with us to resolve this imaginary issue.

So please stop pulling UN back because they are tired of your tantrums.

Be realistic and stop giving war economies an upper hand in the west. Live and let live.
The UN is older than this issue of Kashmir.If this issue has lost its utilitarians due to old issue, UN will lost its utilitarians it self.
 
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The UN is older than this issue of Kashmir.If this issue has lost its utilitarians due to old issue, UN will lost its utilitarians it self.

UN was formed in 1945; you ran to them in 1947-48. Not much difference.

Anyway UN hardly does anything except have stranglehold on weak countries of Africa, Pacific and Latin America.
 
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UN was formed in 1945; you ran to them in 1947-48. Not much difference.

Anyway UN hardly does anything except have stranglehold on weak countries of Africa, Pacific and Latin America.
Mr. Jawaher nehro the Prime minister of India ran them to UN after the war of 1948 on Kashmir between Pak India..
 
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Who could threat to USSR in the past? Is India a superpower power of the world? How many countries come out from the abdomen of USSR? Why UK give the freedom to dozen of countries? Was UK not the super power of the world?
Oh please ! It was economically not viable to them. Meanwhile we can sustain this insurgency for long as we want. Kashmir is non-negotiable, will remain non-negotiable. Be happy with whatever you all have and thank God that Nehru was feeble.
 
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Oh please ! It was economically not viable to them. Meanwhile we can sustain this insurgency for long as we want. Kashmir is non-negotiable, will remain non-negotiable. Be happy with whatever you all have and thank God that Nehru was feeble.
long war in Afghanistan made USSR economically weak and born dozen of countries. 2nd world war made UK economically weak and give the birth of Pakistan and India. Kashmir was not the part of united India. Kashmir gilgit baltistan Dir Swat Chitral were not the parts of united India.
 
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long war in Afghanistan made USSR economically weak and born dozen of countries. 2nd world war made UK economically weak and give the birth of Pakistan and India. Kashmir was not the part of united India. Kashmir gilgit baltistan Dir Swat Chitral were not the parts of united India.
And on what basis are you claiming Kashmir ? Religion ? Forget about it.
 
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And on what basis are you claiming Kashmir ? Religion ? Forget about it.
We are not climbing that Kashmir is the part of Pakistan but we say that Kashmir is the un complete process of the partition. The people of Kashmir are not like to live as the slave of hindus of India. We morally support them and ready for the every threat of India.
 
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We are not climbing that Kashmir is the part of Pakistan but we say that Kashmir is the un complete process of the partition. The people of Kashmir are not like to live as the slave of hindus of India. We morally support them and ready for the every threat of India.
Kashmir has other minorities that support India.
 
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Prabhakaran whipped your ex PM, and you failed for a 20 years in capturing him. Be thankful to the lankans, otherwise the world would have seen only his natural death.

So Maravan is not an Indian, mentally he is a resident of the sovereign state of Tamil Elam...okay...!! :p:
 
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