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J&K: Infiltrators occupy Indian village along the LoC, say sources


what ever ! as a Indian I don't want any negligence from my fellow members here..what we post here thinking as a insignificant info may have a greater value and impact..just being careful.
 
[Bregs];4832771 said:
There is no occupation by Pakistan, it was intrusion and Pakistan has reported to have suffered a causality of 20 - 30 while retreating

Nothing of the sort happened.

Indian media and warmongering lobbies are out to sabotage Peace efforts by Pakistani and Indian PM.

The anti-congress lobbies in media and within Indian army have first tried to fooled the Indian nation by saying that 30 militants were trapped in the area and now after MMS-NS met in agreed to peace talks, The Modi mania is out there to sabotage it.

BTW I dint know we had occupied Haryana :cheesy:
 
Nothing of the sort happened.

Indian media and warmongering lobbies are out to sabotage Peace efforts by Pakistani and Indian PM.

The anti-congress lobbies in media and within Indian army have first tried to fooled the Indian nation by saying that 30 militants were trapped in the area and now after MMS-NS met in agreed to peace talks, The Modi mania is out there to sabotage it.

BTW I dint know we had occupied Haryana :cheesy:

True these all are unconfirmed reports except that Some militants around 30 were hold up inside territory now they were terrorists s or regular army has not been confirmed officially many of them were killed too, all is media speculation as of now
 
More and more Indian jingoist media reporting this non existing and fake small scale war just a couple of days after meeting between the two PM's. Just reiterates our believe that Indian media is as warmonger and anti Pakistan as a internet hindu on PDF or BR.

[Bregs];4832919 said:
True these all are unconfirmed reports except that Some militants around 30 were hold up inside territory now they were terrorists s or regular army has not been confirmed officially many of them were killed too, all is media speculation as of now

Nobody was holed up anywhere. There are no dead bodies and it seems illogical and unrealistic that Pakistanis crossed LOC and occupied an Indian village. It looks more like a sabotage from inside India against Indo-Pak peace process after meeting between your and our PMs.
 
[Bregs];4832919 said:
True these all are unconfirmed reports except that Some militants around 30 were hold up inside territory now they were terrorists s or regular army has not been confirmed officially many of them were killed too, all is media speculation as of now

:))))))))))))) well even if we for the sake of argument believe Indian army claim about either Pak Army soldiers or 30 freedom fighters trapped there its been so many days sooooooooooo many days so what happened to those number of human?

Few Indians claimed that about 20-30 killed the question is that even your Indian paid newspaper (which Indian army used for spreading propaganda of this type for sabotaging peace talks) claimed that NOBODY Has been recovered by Indian army.

The question remains if these people were in Indian Occupied Kashmir where the bodies have vanished if India reclaimed the posts?

Besides were Indian armymen heroes of Bollywood who don't suffer a minor injury but uproots trees and kill hundreds of people single handedly
 
@Spring Onion ji bodies can either be cremated or buried depending on religious considerations.
 
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:))))))))))))) well even if we for the sake of argument believe Indian army claim about either Pak Army soldiers or 30 freedom fighters trapped there its been so many days sooooooooooo many days so what happened to those number of human?

Few Indians claimed that about 20-30 killed the question is that even your Indian paid newspaper (which Indian army used for spreading propaganda of this type for sabotaging peace talks) claimed that NOBODY Has been recovered by Indian army.

The question remains if these people were in Indian Occupied Kashmir where the bodies have vanished if India reclaimed the posts?

Besides were Indian armymen heroes of Bollywood who don't suffer a minor injury but uproots trees and kill hundreds of people single handedly

Media is very irresponsible now a days no doubt they make thing sensational, without nay official confirmations these incidents will remain speculatively suspect
 
[Bregs];4832986 said:
Media is very irresponsible now a days no doubt they make thing sensational, without nay official confirmations these incidents will remain speculatively suspect

Indian media is always used for forwarding Indian policies but the new game changer is the division between so-called nationalists aka Modi group and Congress supporters.

Those Indians who see their masala business winding up due to peace talks do such stunts of false claims either against China or Pakistan whenever the leaders agree to talks
 
I pray for peace at LOC. The soldiers who will lose life or limb, they or their family will suffer. We will just feel better at each others loss. Fighting should have some objectives, including terrorism. I feel J&K fight does not seems to have objective.
 
I pray for peace at LOC. The soldiers who will lose life or limb, they or their family will suffer. We will just feel better at each others loss. Fighting should have some objectives, including terrorism. I feel J&K fight does not seems to have objective.

in the other thread you will happy over this claim by Indians.

What happened now?

Why you guys fed the lies through media earlier??
 
[Bregs];4833046 said:
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Damn;

Talk about obsession and...........
 
before making wild speculation why don't you read what the army is saying now ;) I mean yours

That is being supposedly said to avoid escalating the matter. This is what Praveen Swami is saying:His sources by the way, are usually very good.

Update: IBN7′s Khalid Husain has reported that Army sources said there is face to face firing going on as after the infiltration into Indian posts which were unmonitored for week. The report adds that Indian army launched operations using helicopter gunships. The posts were allegedly captured by men wearing Pakistan army uniform. The army has denied capturing anyone and says they have killed 22 infiltrators.

Even as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh met with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in New York, Indian troops were engaged in a murderous fight to clear Pakistani troops who have occupied a ghost village alone the Line of Control, highly placed military sources have told Firstpost. This is the first time since the 2001-02 near-war that Pakistani troops have held territory across the Line of Control, and comes as a ceasefire declared after that conflict unravels.

Fighting, the sources said, is still taking place in the village of Shala Bhata, where Pakistani irregulars and special forces personnel are using abandoned homes to fire on troops attempting to clear the area.

Lieutenant-General Gurmeet Singh, commander of the Srinagar-based XV corps, said earlier this week 12 terrorists had been killed in the fighting — a statement that was misreported and referred to a separate fidayeen strike on police and military installations in Samba. A spokesperson at army headquarters in New Delhi said he had no confirmation yet on Indian casualties.
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“There’s no confirmation yet about who the infiltrators are”, the Delhi-based military spokesperson said, “but some of the bodies we’ve recovered are wearing uniforms, which is suggestive. More important, the tactics and disciplined use of firepower by the infiltrators show they are likely special forces personnel, not just infiltrators.”

The intrusion, the sources said, took place on the night of 23 September, taking advantage of gaps in patrolling which took place when troops of the 20 Kumaon regiment were handing over charge to the 3-3 Gurkha, during a routine rotation of troops. The intruders took cover in unoccupied observation posts overlooking a nullah, or village stream, as well as abandoned homes.

Earlier this year, five Indian soldiers were executed in an ambush near Chakan-da-Bagh in Poonch, when the 21 Bihar were handing over charge of a stretch of the Sarla battalion area to the 14 Maratha Light Infantry. “This suggests the Pakistani army is carefully monitoring the Line of Control”, an intelligence official told Firstpost, “identifying weaknesses to stage strikes of opportunity”.

Shala Bhata, some 20 kilometres as the crow flies from the district headquarters at Keran, looks over the Kishanganga river, and is perched on a strategically-vital arc that overlooks Pakistan’s main line of communication to the northern stretches of the Line of Control.

In 1990, many inhabitants of the village’s 21-odd families left for Pakistan, fearing imminent fighting. They continue to live just across the Line of Control, in a hamlet also called Shala Bhata. Pakistani troops have a small encampment just across the Line of Control. The remainder of the village’s inhabitants were evacuated from the area in 1999-1999, amidst intense Pakistani fire directed at adjoining Indian military positions.

The occupation of the ghost village of Shala Bhata began less than a week before Prime Minister Singh held talks with Prime Minister Sharif in New York. Their discussions centred around measures to deescalate tensions on the line of control. The two Prime Ministers ordered their Directors-General of Military Operations to hold talks to defuse growing tensions.

Pakistani troops last occupied positions on the Indian side of the Line of Control in July, 2002, taking Loonda Post— part of the same sector where fighting is now underway. India responded, on that occasion, by using eight Mirage 2000 aircraft to drop precision-guided bombs on to the four occupied bunkers. Following the air strike, troops supported by 155-millimetre howitzers retook the positions.

The daylight air assault, government sources told Firstpost, had been authorised at the highest political leavel, and were intended to demonstrate that India would not hesitate to escalate the conflict if provoked.

In earlier years, though, both armies frequently occupied posts vacated by their adversaries along the Line of Control, jockeying for tactical positional superiority. This would often lead to skirmishes and artillery exchanges.

Exclusive: While PM talked peace, Pak grabbed ghost village on LoC | Firstpost
 
Srinagar: The army today said Indian troops were being "heavily engaged" by continuous firing from Pakistan along the Line of Control in Jammu and Kashmir, after an infiltration bid by an unusually large group of 30 to 40 terrorists last week.

Lt-General Gurmeet Singh of the Army's 15 Corps said the terrorists who tried to enter India had the backing of special troops, but stopped short of saying that these could be Pakistani soldiers. "There were some special troops (involved in the infiltration bid), the training shows it. It is different from earlier attempts," he said.

Today is the ninth day of the encounter which began after the infiltration bid in the Keran-Mendhar sector of Kashmir on September 24 and was on as Prime Minister Manmohan Singh met Nawaz Sharif in New York on Sunday and agreed that de-escalating tension along the border must be a priority.

The general said the infiltrators had been cordoned off and 12 of them have been killed. "The operation is completely under our control, have faith in us," said the officer, "The area is difficult. Our people are being engaged from across the LOC. We are proceeding with caution."

Asked why no bodies of terrorists had been found, the general said: "Retrieving bodies of dead terrorists is of no consequence to us. There are many rumours in cyberspace. Wait for operations to be over. We will share details with you. "

The army has also denied reports that Pakistani troops had occupied an abandoned village near the LoC and was using abandoned homes to fire at Indian soldiers.

Five Indian soldiers have been injured in the ongoing encounter, one just yesterday. Army sources had earlier said 300 militants were waiting to infiltrate.

At his meeting with Mr Sharif on Sunday, Dr Singh had said peace along the LoC was a precondition for normalisation of ties between India and Pakistan.

His meeting with the Pakistan PM was criticised by the opposition after twin terror attacks in Jammu and a spurt in attacks along the LoC in recent months.


by Deepshikha Ghosh
NDTV
 
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