It is a message to Pakistan

[flanker30]

Indians know very well the unusual circumstances in 1971. There is no longer any part of Pakistan separated by thousands of miles of Indian territory, so using EP as justification for an Indian military victory is foolish.

One can only hope the Indian military continues to cling to a superiority complex based on 1971.

why did u accept east pak,u shud have thought whether we are capable to secure it or not.and deleting the videos will not hide anything.u r making a gud but unfortunate use of power

 

[zagahaga]

thats y u usually talk abt nukes,like zaid hamid ""hum israel ko bhi ura denge,hindustaniyon ko bhi ura denge inshallah"",no body is going to overtake pak.even few months ago,ur minister came for talks 2 daily,when he was leaving he said "do remember we have nukes".i can fully understand ur statement now atleast

yes i the type who dosent care much about my english its funnie

 

[TheWarriorIndian]

After amassing a billion soldiers on the border for a whole year, loosing around 500 men without a shot being fired and then unilaterally pulling back with nothing to show for it'self, only an Indian can be proud of such a hallow glory.

Having the confidence that a hand full of soldiers can Guard our borders very Well Is Not what we call Hallow Glory, but only brings in Confidence on them, And Makes us proud of them..... and We dont hide, and give ceasefire and Cover fire For terrorists but prefer To Die Fighting them rather than Living with them.

 

[Bang Galore]

Indians know very well the unusual circumstances in 1971. There is no longer any part of Pakistan separated by thousands of miles of Indian territory, so using EP as justification for an Indian military victory is foolish.

One can only hope the Indian military continues to cling to a superiority complex based on 1971.

That argument works both ways. India's attention & resources on the military front will be concentrated in a single direction as opposed to two in 1971.

In any case this a silly argument. One guy starts something about how his country is going to whup the backside of the other & everyone jumps in & pretty soon this thread resembles a market melee.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Why not??? East pakistan Could have been averted if You could have controlled us, But that dint happen, Please dont give an Excuse that you were very far, then why did you have that Part anyway? If you cant protect it, why have it at all??

You cannot ignore the logistical challenges faced in East Pakistan or the lack of military infrastructure and forces there. Whatever the reasons then for not properly investing in EP, the point being made is that the 1971 situation does not exist in modern Pakistan today, and therefore India cannot repeat what it did in 1971.

And deleting my other post, does not Hide the truth buddy... U may keep deleting the truth from this forum as u are The Mod, but cannot erase the facts buddy boy.... And If You think Indian Victory is foolish why do you Over hype Your victory when Our nation was new and That too You snatched 40% of kashmir when it was about to be a part of us.... So that doesnt make your Army foolish??

Your post suggested what? That Pakistan lose a few hundred square miles to a few hundred less that India lost? Insignificant territorial losses either way.

When your nation was 'new' so was Pakistan, and Pakistan was severely disadvantage as well given that the majority of the factories, military hardware, financial resources etc. fell in the Indian side.

If anything that too was a triumph by Pakistan in that it captured over a third of J&K against a far larger and better resourced enemy. Had the PA deployed earlier, India might have controlled even less of J&K than it does today.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

why did u accept east pak,u shud have thought whether we are capable to secure it or not.and deleting the videos will not hide anything.u r making a gud but unfortunate use of power

It is irrelevant why we accepted EP or why there was not significant military infrastructure and resources deployed there.

What is relevant is that the same situation does not exist today, and for a country fielding a much smaller force, division of military resources between two territories impacts Pakistan far more than India.

The fact is that the 1971 war offers little in way of a template for a future conflict between India and Pakistan.

 

[SMC]

You'd be clutching to straws if you suggest that geography didn't play a big role in the 1971 war. All in all, India only defeated 25% of PA. To suggest that anything in the future will be based on the 1971 war is foolish, naive, and very simplistic.

Bang Galore, yes India had two fronts but the fact remains that the territory in between still belonged to India which made logistics much easier.

 

[SMC]

In any case, this thread doesn't have much hope and will go down the wrong direction no matter what, so it should be closed.

 

[Windjammer]

Having the confidence that a hand full of soldiers can Guard our borders very Well Is Not what we call Hallow Glory, but only brings in Confidence on them, And Makes us proud of them..... and We dont hide, and give ceasefire and Cover fire For terrorists but prefer To Die Fighting them rather than Living with them.

So let me get this right, the million soldiers with all brick and motor were merely moved around to assist the hand full of border guards.

 

[chachag]

In any case, this thread doesn't have much hope and will go down the wrong direction no matter what, so it should be closed.

i think u can not accept truth

 

[mohit]

A message from pakistan newspaper to pakistani's...

DAWN.COM | World | Failed New York bomb puts Pakistan under spotlight

 

[SMC]

i think u can not accept truth

Another 12 year old armchair expert. No worries kiddo, you do not have the capacity to see what I am saying.

 

[Bushy]

You'd be clutching to straws if you suggest that geography didn't play a big role in the 1971 war. All in all, India only defeated 25% of PA. To suggest that anything in the future will be based on the 1971 war is foolish, naive, and very simplistic.

Bang Galore, yes India had two fronts but the fact remains that the territory in between still belonged to India which made logistics much easier.

About the underlined statement... Do you seriously think only 25% of PA was at war against India? Would you happen to think that Pakistan (WP) was just a bystander?

Please do not generalize situations - bad for logical arguments.

Indian Army's operations depended upon the situations. In 1971, they emulated Blitzkrieg in EP, and in WP, they would have gone for a conventional war, had WP come out for it. Everything depends on the situation/geography/whatever you wish to call it. What matters in the end is, who achieves one's objectives.

P.S. (No fancy words used here only to help you comprehend my post quickly & clearly).

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

Indians know very well the unusual circumstances in 1971. There is no longer any part of Pakistan separated by thousands of miles of Indian territory, so using EP as justification for an Indian military victory is foolish.

One can only hope the Indian military continues to cling to a superiority complex based on 1971.

I have bin wondering for some time now had Pakistan not attacked India in 1965 would India had felt the need to interfere in Pakistan's internal matter in 1971 and take the opportunity the dismember Pakistan??

 

[notorious_eagle]

Why not??? East pakistan Could have been averted if You could have controlled us, But that dint happen, Please dont give an Excuse that you were very far, then why did you have that Part anyway? If you cant protect it, why have it at all??

When the population is against you, their is pretty much nothing you can do to win a war. Its not an excuse, its a fact. The people of East Pakistan had made it clear that they did not want to be a part of Pakistan, not to mention the logistical nightmare that Pakistan Army had to face. Majority of our military assets were based in West Pakistan where we managed to fight India to a stalemate. But this was in 1971, our Western Border today is more than secure to make sure nothing like this happens again. Pakistan is immune to any threat from the Indian Military, and that is a fact my friend. The last chance that India had to teach Pakistan a lesson was during Operation Parakram, i dont see that happening today or in the future as was demonstrated Post Mumbai.

Anyways, back to the topic. Maybe some one should tell the Indian Minister that India should stop exporting terror to Pakistan by not supporting a** holes like BLA. He needs to stop it with this "Holier than Thou Attitude". There is absolutely no single piece of evidence that links the Armed Forces of Pakistan with this horrible terrorist act, just accusations like always that India is used to making.