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[gambit]

We are entitled to our opinions.

Yes, even if you are wrong. And you ARE wrong.

As a Chinese, I can never say an foreign plane is better than a Chinese plane, be it Russian or European or American. We Chinese are Middle Kingdom. We have a lot of pride. I'm sure you understand that.

That still does not mean you are correct.

At least in terms of looks, J-10B trumps F-35 and F-16.

Is that all you can go by? Appearance?

The bulk of the PLAAF's fighters are dated. The PLAAF have practically no USEFUL institutional memory of air combat to pass on to its pilots. Its current generation of pilots learned from the West. Pretty much nothing indigenous. So yes, looks is all that you have to praise the PLA.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Yes, even if you are wrong. And you ARE wrong.

There is no right and wrong. There is only opinions.

The bulk of the PLAAF's fighters are dated. The PLAAF have practically no USEFUL institutional memory of air combat to pass on to its pilots. Its current generation of pilots learned from the West. Pretty much nothing indigenous. So yes, looks is all that you have to praise the PLA.

So what? We are taking your position in the world and you can't stop us. Trump won't be in office forever. We are going to suck you dry with stupid trade on your part.

 

[gambit]

There is no right and wrong. There is only opinions.

Baseless opinions are wrong.

So what? We are taking your position in the world and you can't stop us. Trump won't be in office forever. We are going to suck you dry with stupid trade on your part.

Trump got nothing to do with this. We cannot stop you? With a shooting fight, we WILL stop you.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

With a shooting fight, we WILL stop you.

BS.

 

[gambit]

BS.

Ain't no 'BS' about it, son.

When I was active duty and assigned to the F-111 in England, everyone loves to fly low altitude over the hills of Scotland. Beautiful countryside. I know what we can do. The F-111 is retired but others have taken its place. Your PLAAF have nothing comparable in terms of that kind of experience. But flying in peace time is one thing, flying in combat is another. So when was the last time the PLAAF had to put its pilots in real danger, as in meeting an enemy air force?

 

[Ultima Thule]

BS.

Your head in BS @undertakerwwefan US military is fa far more advance than your pathetic Chinese armed forces which have mostly outdated /junk weapons @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Your head in BS @undertakerwwefan US military is fa far more advance than your pathetic Chinese armed forces which have mostly outdated /junk weapons @undertakerwwefan

We Chinese are one of the very few select countries that can design a plane and make a jet engine. And guess what? We Chinese got the best jet J-20. J-10B tramps anything including F-35. So there. You want to diss Chinese? You ain't even got a backbone to diss Chinese.

We Chinese design and build the best jets in the world. Everything from J-20 large class to J-10B medium class to JF-17 small class. No other country can do this. We work hard. We accomplish. We have the right to be proud. Not everyone can back it up like we Chinese can. This, my friend, is called 实力.

 

[Ultima Thule]

We Chinese are one of the very few select countries that can design a plane and make a jet engine. And guess what? We Chinese got the best jet J-20. J-10B tramps anything including F-35. So there. You want to diss Chinese? You ain't even got a backbone to diss Chinese.

We Chinese design and build the best jets in the world. Everything from J-20 large class to J-10B medium class to JF-17 small class. No other country can do this. We work hard. We accomplish. We have the right to be proud. Not everyone can back it up like we Chinese can. This, my friend, is called 实力.

most of USA/Russia/EU developing fighter jets from 80- 90 years, Chinese are late comer to this field, as for jet engine you're 10-15 years behind USA/Russia and 5-10 years behind EU counties, WS-10 isn't mass produce yet and has reliability/quality problems with it, you will struggling to complete WS-15 for J-20, as for J-20 i would like to say one of the best not world best J-20 still can't show its full legs until WS-15 fits in J-20 @undertakerwwefan

And what is you talking about @undertakerwwefan J-10B is a conventional fighter jet not a stealth jet, F-35 will see/detect/track/engage J-10B lot earlier than J-10B see/detect/track engage F-35 because J-10B has PESA which is inferior to F-35 AESA @undertakerwwefan

your military tech is mostly based upon on Russian old tech 60s, 70s, and 80s ,and you're copying most Russian old designs like J-2 (Mig-15), J-5 (Mig-19), J-7 (Mig-21) J-11 (Su-27 series of jets) J-16 (Su-30 MKK-MKK2) J-15 (Su-33) and Few design is inspired/based upon either soviet/Russian designs or western designs like J-8 (Soviet Su-15or US F-4 design) JH-7 is mixture of British Tornado and US F-111 Advark designs with fixed wings, J-10 is inspired/mixture of LAVI/J-9 designs A-5 a redesign with side air intake of J-5 (Mig-19), J-20 inspired/based upon (Mig 1.44 with stealth oriented fuselage), JF-17 was/is a rejected Soviet era design purchased by China in mid 90s and upgrade it to PAF Need @undertakerwwefan enjoy:

Yeah not can't do this because they already did this in distant past @undertakerwwefan

You too much lives in your fanstasy world, wishful thinking, fairy tales of yoyurs @undertakerwwefan
Sorry to brust you bubble kid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

most of USA/Russia/EU developing fighter jets from 80- 90 years, Chinese are late comer to this field, as for jet engine you're 10-15 years behind USA/Russia and 5-10 years behind EU counties, WS-10 isn't mass produce yet and has reliability/quality problems with it, you will struggling to complete WS-15 for J-20, as for J-20 i would like to say one of the best not world best J-20 still can't show its full legs until WS-15 fits in J-20 @undertakerwwefan

And what is you talking about @undertakerwwefan J-10B is a conventional fighter jet not a stealth jet, F-35 will see/detect/track/engage J-10B lot earlier than J-10B see/detect/track engage F-35 because J-10B has PESA which is inferior to F-35 AESA @undertakerwwefan

your military tech is mostly based upon on Russian old tech 60s, 70s, and 80s ,and you're copying most Russian old designs like J-2 (Mig-15), J-5 (Mig-19), J-7 (Mig-21) J-11 (Su-27 series of jets) J-16 (Su-30 MKK-MKK2) J-15 (Su-33) and Few design is inspired/based upon either soviet/Russian designs or western designs like J-8 (Soviet Su-15or US F-4 design) JH-7 is mixture of British Tornado and US F-111 Advark designs with fixed wings, J-10 is inspired/mixture of LAVI/J-9 designs A-5 a redesign with side air intake of J-5 (Mig-19), J-20 inspired/based upon (Mig 1.44 with stealth oriented fuselage), JF-17 was/is a rejected Soviet era design purchased by China in mid 90s and upgrade it to PAF Need @undertakerwwefan enjoy:

Yeah not can't do this because they already did this in distant past @undertakerwwefan

You too much lives in your fanstasy world, wishful thinking, fairy tales of yoyurs @undertakerwwefan
Sorry to brust you bubble kid @undertakerwwefan

You know what? We Chinese got the best. We got DSI. Does Boeing got DSI? Nope. Only two companies in the world have it. AVIC and LM. We Chinese can honestly say we are the best.

 

[alikazmi007]

Well, this seem like a pissing contest. Guys, Take it Easy!

 

[LKJ86]

We Chinese are one of the very few select countries that can design a plane and make a jet engine. And guess what? We Chinese got the best jet J-20. J-10B tramps anything including F-35. So there. You want to diss Chinese? You ain't even got a backbone to diss Chinese.

We Chinese design and build the best jets in the world. Everything from J-20 large class to J-10B medium class to JF-17 small class. No other country can do this. We work hard. We accomplish. We have the right to be proud. Not everyone can back it up like we Chinese can. This, my friend, is called 实力.

You know what? We Chinese got the best. We got DSI. Does Boeing got DSI? Nope. Only two companies in the world have it. AVIC and LM. We Chinese can honestly say we are the best.

Are you Chinese???

 

[Ultima Thule]

You know what? We Chinese got the best. We got DSI. Does Boeing got DSI? Nope. Only two companies in the world have it. AVIC and LM. We Chinese can honestly say we are the best.

And who is first developed DSI tech First, I think AVIC developed DSI tech first @undertakerwwefan your whole military was/is based on foreign designs and you think you're the best what a jester you're @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

And who is first developed DSI tech First, I think AVIC developed DSI tech first @undertakerwwefan your whole military was/is based on foreign designs and you think you're the best what a jester you're @undertakerwwefan

All is fair in love and war. Americans are stupid enough to donate 500 billion a year to China. We did not make them do it. They did it themselves.

Are you Chinese???

Chinese Canadian immigrant.

 

[LKJ86]

Chinese Canadian immigrant.

Why do you use "We Chinese", Canadian friend?

Chinese Canadian immigrant.

Why do you use "We Chinese", Canadian friend?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Why do you use "We Chinese", Canadian friend?

Ethnic Chinese.