Israel's racist birth control policy.

[RFS_Br]

If it is taking pill, that's not birth control, unless they keep taking or force talking the pill after they arrived in Israel.

If Israel do not want black jewish people to have children, they would require them to surgically neuter themselve instead of taking pill.

Do you actually think it's that easy? Unless we're talking of some totalitarian autocracy like North Korea, no government that took such drastic measures against part of its population, would escape criticism from at least some sectors of civil society and the press, to say nothing of foreign allies.

Taking birth control pill before migration is quite a common practices for African country

Though this is not clear from that article, the women are saying that they'd been duped into taking those pills even after arriving to Israel. The vid has more about it; the other article I linked on the opening post is also of interest.

 

[500]

Is that all you have to say? And you call me a retard?

Our women aren't saying they were forced to take pills -- that's a crucial difference, dimwit.

You are a retard because u dont understand that birth rate in Brazil is dropping much faster than birth rate of Ethiopians in Israel.

What's more, the fertility rates of Israeli Jews are actually increasing. In this background, Ethiopian infertility gets all the more suspicious.

There is no any infertility among Ethiopians. Ethiopians have considerably larger fertility rate than average Israelis.

You can find isolated individuals with light features, that's all. But the average Middle Eastern still has olive skin, dark eyes and dark hair.

Levant people are originally pretty pale. Dark are Egyptians, Yemenites etc. Stop being jealous about white people.

 

[RFS_Br]

well Depo Provera is not that long acting it only is effective for about 3 month and 1-2 month after that the fertility is not guarantied . I guess the lower birth rate is more due to change in values and lifestyles

I don't know where you took that from, but RT quoted a doctor on the subject of that medicine's effects:

“At least 10 per cent develop substantial side-effects – side-effects like irregular bleeding, the period may disappear, they may have heavy periods. And it is impossible to reverse these side-effects, and until it has worked itself out of the system you can’t reverse these. So it’s possible although the contraception works for 3 months at a time, the side-effects may last for two years – three years – four years – five years,” he says.

 

[RFS_Br]

You are a retard because u dont understand that birth rate in Brazil is dropping much faster than birth rate of Ethiopians in Israel.

We're actually not. We've had a 20% fall in the last 10 years -- about the same as the Ethiopian community. Honestly, where did you take your 34% number from? Do you invent numbers as you go along spouting your nonsense, is that it?

And context means everything: our women don't say the government is manipulating them into taking pills; but Ethiopian Jewish women do: they're being left behind while the Israeli Jewish community grows more fertile, and they themselves are saying that this is so because of government manipulation.

Levant people are originally pretty pale. Dark are Egyptians, Yemenites etc. Stop being jealous about white people.

I could post some pictures here of crowds in Palestine, Syria, Jordan, showing that light features are more the exception than the rule. But what's the point? Everyone can see you're talking out of your @ss. At least make your lie look believable, otherwise you sound pathetic. And you don't even know me, my background, or how do I look like, to say that I envy anyone's appearance. Don't flatter yourself.

 

[500]

Actually, can you guys kick people out of Judaism?

Just wondering..........

And yes, child and all kind of crap like that in detention or transition camp is a big problem, again as i said, it's more like a quarentine procedure other than political one

Eithiopans were not traditional Jews. They had not Hebrew Torah or other Hebrew scriptures, no Hebrew prayers, no traditions. They dont have Cohens and Levites. Most probably they are just some Christian sect, like Black Hebrews in US. So Israel could simply not recognize them as Jews.

That's true, but you can't deny that there are differences in psychical appearances between Mizrahi Jews and Ashkenazi Jews.

When I see young people in street in many cases I cant determine if they are Mizrahi or Ashkenazi. Overwhelming majority of Ashkenazi are black haired. Many Mizrahi Jews have bright eyes. Genetically both are very close to each other.

 

[500]

We're actually not. We've had a 20% fall in the last 10 years -- about the same as the Ethiopian community. Honestly, where did you take your 34% number from? Do you invent numbers as you go along spouting your nonsense, is that it?

https://www.google.com/publicdata/e...dim=region&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=brazil+gdp
Birth rate in Brazil:

2001 - 20.43
2011 - 15.22

Thats 34% drop. Much bigger drop than Ethiopian community.

And context means everything: our women don't say the government is manipulating them into taking pills;

Neither in Israel.

but Ethiopian Jewish women do:

No they dont.

they're being left behind while the Israeli Jewish community grows more more fertile, and they themselves say that this is so because of government manipulation.

Ethiopians still have much higher fertility rate than average Jews. Its natural that with time fertility of Ethiopians is going to level of average Israelis. That happens in all immigrant communities. Only retard like you does not understand it.

I could post some pictures here of crowds in Palestine, Syria, Jordan, showing that light features are more the exception than the rule.

Very big portion of them are immigrants from other Arab countries. Original Levant population was pretty pale. Genetically European Jews are very similar to Mizrahi Jews and to people of Levant.

 

[RFS_Br]

https://www.google.com/publicdata/e...dim=region&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=brazil+gdp
Birth rate in Brazil:

2001 - 20.43
2011 - 15.22

Thats 34% drop. Much bigger drop than Ethiopian community.

As you can see in this explanation, Crude Birth Rate doesn't refer to fertility rates tout court. What I linked to on the above post, was a summary of findings based on the work of the official statistics bureau, which has the final word on this matter and on whose work WB numbers, to which you link before, are based. And it says fertility fell from 2.38 in 2000 to 1.9 in 2010: a ~20% decrease.

No they dont.

You're a fnny guy.
They actually are saying that -- at least some of them are. Read up any of the links that I sent. Don't comment on a story before even reading it, for Christ's sakes.

Ethiopians still have much higher fertility rate than average Jews. Its natural that with time fertility of Ethiopians is going to level of average Israelis. That happens in all immigrant communities. Only retard like you does not understand it.

Yes, that's normal. What's not normal is that an immigrant population accuses the government of duping them into infertility. That's the crust of the story -- not that Ethiopians' fertility has fallen, but that it has fallen amidst accusationf by Ethiopians themselves that they're being rendered infertile by the government, capisce? Honestly, this feels like the times I help out my 6yo niece with her homework.

 

[500]

As you can see in this explanation, Crude Birth Rate doesn't refer to fertility rates tout court. What I linked to on the above post, was a summary of findings based on the work of the official statistics bureau, which has the final word on this matter and on whose work WB numbers, to which you link before, are based. And it says fertility fell from 2.38 in 2000 to 1.9 in 2010: a ~20% decrease.

2.38 in 2000
1.83 in 2010

https://www.google.com/publicdata/e...dim=region&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&q=brazil+gdp

Thats 30%.

You're a fnny guy.
They actually are saying that -- at least some of them are. Read up any of the links that I sent. Don't comment on a story before even reading it, for Christ's sakes.

When they were in transition camp in Ethiopia.

Yes, that's normal. What's not normal is that an immigrant population accuses the government of duping them into infertility. That's the crust of the story -- not that Ethiopians' fertility has fallen, but that it has fallen amidst accusationf by Ethiopians themselves that they're being rendered infertile by the government, capisce? Honestly, this feels like the times I help out my 6yo niece with her homework.

Fertility rate of Ethiopians is considerably higher than average in Israel and it is dropping much slower than in Brazil. Your conspiracy theory failed. Get another one.

 

[jhungary]

Do you actually think it's that easy? Unless we're talking of some totalitarian autocracy like North Korea, no government that took such drastic measures against part of its population, would escape criticism from at least some sectors of civil society and the press, to say nothing of foreign allies.


Though this is not clear from that article, the women are saying that they'd been duped into taking those pills even after arriving to Israel. The vid has more about it; the other article I linked on the opening post is also of interest.

Well, force people take pills continously and force people to desex themselve are aligned to the same thing, inhumane curelty. Regimes that force people to take pills (if continously) can be as easy to tell people to desex, that's not anything stronger or presistence in term of the two.

But taking pill does not work 100%, surgical sterizilation is. I think pills, depending on the pill itself are more or less as efective as using a condom. Which is about 92% success preventing birth. If the med are lower grade or near expiration date. The chance are lower.

I do not live in Isreal and have never been in touch with those women so i cannot say whether or not their claim are founded. I am saying in the time for detention and tranferring, taking the pills is acting as the same of Qurantine Control as sexual transmitted diease have high incubation period but an infected mother will instantly bring the diease to the child if they have one.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I don't know where you took that from, but RT quoted a doctor on the subject of that medicine's effects:

yeah sure , it last to 2-3 years in 1 person in 10000 of the people who used it for several years
an no I didn't Google searched it . it's my job the key point here is "may" .
and spotting is common side-effect of all progesterone only birth control methods .nothing special about it and it won't mean infertility. the guarantied infertility period or this drug is 3 month and after 6 month its rare to stay infertile after 18. month if you are still infertile then look for problem somewhere else and these are the data for people who used it for more than 1-2 year not the people who just received a single shot.

depo provera make you infertile is just the same bs.... that polio vaccine make you infertile.