JohnWick
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I think Erdoğan essentially preparing Turkey to be handed back to secularists.
Look at the beautiful welcoming ceremony for Israel. Erdogan seems to really value his relationship with them.
Turkey deals with Israel from a position of strength. Also, Palestinian Jews in the Ottoman empire didn't attack Ottoman soldiers. I could not find any incident.All the Pakistanis who worship sultan erdogan going to have a heart attack after they see this
Lol another wannabe ertugrulTurkey deals with Israel from a position of strength. Also, Palestinian Jews in the Ottoman empire didn't attack Ottoman soldiers. I could not find any incident.
The irony is Pakistani soldiers in British Indian army fighting for the British empire (along with Arabs and many other nationalities) were instrumental in defeating the Ottomans who had kept the peace in the middle east for centuries.
" The importance of Muslim soldiers was understood by the British commander Edmund Allenby. After capturing Jerusalem, he cabled to London, “The Mosque of Omar and the area round it has been placed under Moslem control, and a Military cordon, composed of Indian Mahomedan officers and soldiers, has been established round the Mosque. Guards have been established at Bethlehem and on Rachel’s Tomb. The Tomb of Hebron has been placed under exclusive Moslem control.” Allenby’s respect for the Indian soldiers can be seen in his receiving their salute as they marched past him outside of Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem on December 11, 1917, when Allenby entered the city. "![]()
Remembering the Indian soldiers who helped liberate Jerusalem 100 years ago
Allenby’s respect for the Indian soldiers can be seen in his receiving their salute as they marched past him outside of Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem on December 11, 1917, when Allenby entered the city.m.jpost.com
"The experience of 400,000 Muslim soldiers who fought for Britain is one of the war's least-known stories"The Muslims who fought for Britain in the first world war | Islam | The Guardian
Presentation at Living Islam festival points up role of 400,000 from pre-partition India who fought on Britain's sideamp.theguardian.com
There’s always hope we’re just looking in the wrong places. Erdogan who’s been trading with Israel since he came to power, whos been buying Israel’s “battle tested weapons” which were tested on Palestinians for decades, he was hope for Muslims?Hopelessness is in the air of muslims again
How dare you speak bad about Amir ul momineen, sultan e azam, shahenshah, molvi sultan erdogan ibn osmani@Hakikat ve Hikmet : This must be a secret plot by the ISRAIL lobby in bengladesh to infiltrate Pak-Turkiye strategic partnership.
Of course, Turkey deals with Israel from a position of strength (as Turkey does with Arabs as well). Israeli President's plane emblazoned with the words -- peace, future, partnership -- say it.Lol another wannabe ertugrul
“position of strength”. A toddler can come up with a better excuse. Was it position of strength when turkey was importing many weapons from Israel? What threat does turkey pose to Israel which would make it a position of strength? Turkey poses no threat to Israel and in no way is it in a “position of strength”.
Israel = Zionists (not real Jews)
Jews = Jews
Many Jews especially ultra Orthodox Jews hate Israel in fact they hate them more then Muslims so your excuse is invalid.
Before you bring up Muslims fighting for British in ww1 as an excuse read this:
Unlike young Turks or kemalists who willingly fought against the caliphate, Indian subcontinent Muslims were forced to fight and many refused to fight and joined ottomans.![]()
Why Were These Indian Muslims Executed During WW1?
800 Indian Muslims soldiers stationed in Singapore rebelled against the British. Here's why:ilmfeed.com
Secondly, islamically we know the punishment for fighting against the caliphate for nationalism and for a taghut state. Those Muslims who willingly fought ottomans and now paying the price in their graves.
What about turkey though? What excuse does republic of turkey which was formed on the bones of ottomans have? What excuse do kemalists have? What excuse did young Turks have? What excuse did the ones who overthrew Sultan AbdulHamid have?
The modern state of turkey was created by a Donmeh who destroyed the caliphate. What excuses does turkey have for worshipping that Donmeh?
Erdogan is one of the biggest munafiqs in the world. He plays religion card whenever he wants even if what he’s doing goes against Islam.
Why is Amir ul momineen, sultan e azam, shahenshah, molvi sultan erdogan ibn osmani invading and killing his fellow Muslim Kurdish? Why did he turn HTS into his proxy and use it crush Syrian resistance against Assad when it was close to overthrowing him then cry crocodile tears with hts about Assad’s brutalities?
Why was he sending weapons to isis and buying oil from them when they controlled the oil fields?
Why is he in bed with every taghut in the world?
All the brutalities from Sultan Erdogan Ibn Osmani.
I’m sure Osman Gazi and Ertugrul Gazi would be proud of Sultan Erdogan
There’s always hope we’re just looking in the wrong places. Erdogan who’s been trading with Israel since he came to power, whos been buying Israel’s “battle tested weapons” which were tested on Palestinians for decades, he was hope for Muslims?
Turkey isn’t even an Islamic country it’s a secular country so how can it become hope for Muslims?
How dare you speak bad about Amir ul momineen, sultan e azam, shahenshah, molvi sultan erdogan ibn osmani![]()
We are proud of Erdogan and our ancestors but if you insult us and believe the leader of Turks is a munafiq then Pakistan is free to cut ties with Turkiye anytime.Lol another wannabe ertugrul
“position of strength”. A toddler can come up with a better excuse. Was it position of strength when turkey was importing many weapons from Israel? What threat does turkey pose to Israel which would make it a position of strength? Turkey poses no threat to Israel and in no way is it in a “position of strength”.
Israel = Zionists (not real Jews)
Jews = Jews
Many Jews especially ultra Orthodox Jews hate Israel in fact they hate them more then Muslims so your excuse is invalid.
Before you bring up Muslims fighting for British in ww1 as an excuse read this:
Unlike young Turks or kemalists who willingly fought against the caliphate, Indian subcontinent Muslims were forced to fight and many refused to fight and joined ottomans.![]()
Why Were These Indian Muslims Executed During WW1?
800 Indian Muslims soldiers stationed in Singapore rebelled against the British. Here's why:ilmfeed.com
Secondly, islamically we know the punishment for fighting against the caliphate for nationalism and for a taghut state. Those Muslims who willingly fought ottomans and now paying the price in their graves.
What about turkey though? What excuse does republic of turkey which was formed on the bones of ottomans have? What excuse do kemalists have? What excuse did young Turks have? What excuse did the ones who overthrew Sultan AbdulHamid have?
The modern state of turkey was created by a Donmeh who destroyed the caliphate. What excuses does turkey have for worshipping that Donmeh?
Erdogan is one of the biggest munafiqs in the world. He plays religion card whenever he wants even if what he’s doing goes against Islam.
Why is Amir ul momineen, sultan e azam, shahenshah, molvi sultan erdogan ibn osmani invading and killing his fellow Muslim Kurdish? Why did he turn HTS into his proxy and use it crush Syrian resistance against Assad when it was close to overthrowing him then cry crocodile tears with hts about Assad’s brutalities?
Why was he sending weapons to isis and buying oil from them when they controlled the oil fields?
Why is he in bed with every taghut in the world?
All the brutalities from Sultan Erdogan Ibn Osmani.
I’m sure Osman Gazi and Ertugrul Gazi would be proud of Sultan Erdogan
There’s always hope we’re just looking in the wrong places. Erdogan who’s been trading with Israel since he came to power, whos been buying Israel’s “battle tested weapons” which were tested on Palestinians for decades, he was hope for Muslims?
Turkey isn’t even an Islamic country it’s a secular country so how can it become hope for Muslims?
How dare you speak bad about Amir ul momineen, sultan e azam, shahenshah, molvi sultan erdogan ibn osmani![]()
Good for you. I could care less what Turks think about their leaders or ancestors. Just tell your leader to stop acting like caliph if Muslims. No one has an issue with Turks or even their leaders if they stay concerned with turkey and stop tryna acting like sultan of the world.We are proud of Erdogan and our ancestors but if you insult us and believe the leader of Turks is a munafiq then Pakistan is free to cut ties with Turkiye anytime.
Good for you but don’t say such things in rl to Turks, i would be more careful.Good for you. I could care less what Turks think about their leaders or ancestors. Just tell your leader to stop acting like caliph if Muslims. No one has an issue with Turks or even their leaders if they stay concerned with turkey and stop tryna acting like sultan of the world.
My views don’t represent my states views because it’s possible to disagree with the state in some areas and that’s the beauty of democracy.
However I will continue to believe and say erdogan is a munafiq and the biggest munafiq the world has seen rn!
Sultan erdogan e munafiq
going by your logic imran khan is the greatest dishonorable munifaq on earth if he don’t cut ties with Turkiye asap.“Position of strength”
At least those 800 soldier revolted and did something. What did young Turks or kemalists do? The last real caliph and real sultan of Ottomans was Sultan AbdulHamid. The sultan and caliph ottomans had after was installed by young Turk nationalists and they did many crimes as well which we shouldn’t forget. However still rebelling against the caliphate is a severe crime and ‘Muslims’ who fought the caliphate are paying the price in their graves rn.
In Pakistan, unlike turkey, we don’t praise Donmeh who destroyed the caliphate and built a secular state one the grave of the caliphate. We don’t go around building statues and worshipping the one who collaborated to destroy the caliphate. Biggest criminals and the people responsible for the fall of the caliphate are the Turks who removed Sultan AbdulHamid then again went in removing 2 more ottoman sultans before Donmeh Kemal struck the final blow and destroyed and dissolved the caliphate. Literally the state you talk so proudly about today abolished the caliphate in order to create a secular republic on its grave so in fact the biggest criminals in the fall of the caliphate is the modern secular republic of turkey!