Israelis killed Zia

[tahirkhely]

Israelis cant control Palestinians Fidayeens. strange to see that they killed zia

 

[A.Rahman]

Israelis cant control Palestinians Fidayeens. strange to see that they killed zia

They regularly send F-16's to bomb the Palestinians when ever they get attacked, so in a way they are controlling Fidayeens.

 

[HAIDER]

So simple .General died first his role in afgan war was over and was politically unpopular and American never wants to back up non democratic govt cuz these type of backup somtime hurts american interest...And Zia knew party is over. Only oneway was for him to live, free and fair election and retired. Take refugee in Saudia or America or any other country....itz my analysis.

 

[araz]

As Salam o Alaikum,
An Ex PAF member of Pakdef.info had some interesting though unsubstantiated ( I mean this with the utmost of respect for the said gentleman whom I hold in high regard) observations about Gen Zia,s death.He also named names. However the whole thread was deleted pretty soon afterwards. The gist of this post is that although we are quick to blame others the actual enemy is always an insider. That said I am not a great fan of Gen. Zia, whom I personally feel caused a lot of harm to our country. The other point I want to make is that if people know enough to come on to public forums and name names, then the powers that be must surely know who the culprits are. There is therefore either not enough evidence, or most likely it is not politically expedient to open this investigation again. my 2Cs worth
Salams
Araz

 

[melb4aust]

As Salam o Alaikum,
An Ex PAF member of Pakdef.info had some interesting though unsubstantiated ( I mean this with the utmost of respect for the said gentleman whom I hold in high regard) observations about Gen Zia,s death.He also named names. However the whole thread was deleted pretty soon afterwards. The gist of this post is that although we are quick to blame others the actual enemy is always an insider. That said I am not a great fan of Gen. Zia, whom I personally feel caused a lot of harm to our country. The other point I want to make is that if people know enough to come on to public forums and name names, then the powers that be must surely know who the culprits are. There is therefore either not enough evidence, or most likely it is not politically expedient to open this investigation again. my 2Cs worth
Salams
Araz

Gosh of course you are right, there was some internal involvement, other wise how come such incident happen. One thing, did you read that post and info rmation personally, and how come it has got deleted? If you know anything about this plzzz do share, would be appreciated. Thanx

 

[A.Rahman]

As Salam o Alaikum,
An Ex PAF member of Pakdef.info had some interesting though unsubstantiated ( I mean this with the utmost of respect for the said gentleman whom I hold in high regard) observations about Gen Zia,s death.He also named names. However the whole thread was deleted pretty soon afterwards. The gist of this post is that although we are quick to blame others the actual enemy is always an insider. That said I am not a great fan of Gen. Zia, whom I personally feel caused a lot of harm to our country. The other point I want to make is that if people know enough to come on to public forums and name names, then the powers that be must surely know who the culprits are. There is therefore either not enough evidence, or most likely it is not politically expedient to open this investigation again. my 2Cs worth
Salams
Araz

You remember any of the names?

 

[Spring Onion]

araz whats the name of this Ex-PAF officer?


BTW had anyone heard about Murtaz Bhutto's role and his visist just ahead of Zia's and co killings.

Futher more Top US military officials were killed in that crash do u think US has sacrificed them for nothing indeed not

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

People should realize that niether israel, nor india or russia would either indulge themselves in the murder of Zia who was accompanied by the sitting U S ambassador in that flight. Israel had to gain nothing by Zia's death. Zia's hatred towards the minorities got the better of him.

 

[araz]

Gosh of course you are right, there was some internal involvement, other wise how come such incident happen. One thing, did you read that post and info rmation personally, and how come it has got deleted? If you know anything about this plzzz do share, would be appreciated. Thanx

Brother sorry for the delay in response.Yes I did read the post myself, and I think because it named people( or atleast some of them ) and as I have said it was unsubstantiated, it was deleted.
Brother A Rehman, Unfortunately I do not remember the name. All that I remember is that it involved 5 people and according to the post, fairly hefty amounts of money was paid to them.
Brothers, at the end of the day we readily blame outside forces for our own misdeeds but there is always insiders who do the dirty deeds. The other obvious problem is one of proving someones involvement, which is a very difficultthing in the court of Law. Unfortunately, whereas most cases in Pakistan are sorted on the basis of informations extracted by visits to the "Drawing Room", the true picture needs to be irrefutably proven in the courts and in the Pakistani setup, it may be impossible.
WaSalam
Araz

 

[tahirkhely]

General Mirza Aslam beg (Zia's Successor) was responsible for whatever happened to Zia. this was revealed by Ijazulhaq MNA (son of Zia) in 2004 on PTV world news night programme. He said that Gen Beg was using his influence to stop the report from getting public. Ijaz was advised by his legal advisor to sue lockheed martin. this would put undue pressures on the company and they will show the report just to save the money. and this is what actually happened. the Lockheed representatives told Ijaz that the crashed hercules had inward imploded structures rather than an inside out explosion. This showed that SAM was used to bring down the plane. and mind you this was just after the take off from bahawalpur. So all this fortced Ijaz to believe that top military brass was involved in this as they wanted to bring Pakistan People's party or to be more impartial a democratic government in to power.

 

[Lahori paa jee]

Black Box revealed Zias last few words which were

Abbass kiya kar rahey hoo

Abbass was the pilot.

 

[greatsequence]

According to major amir it was Mossad

 

[pakomar]

Israel play its role in assassination of Zia because Zia Islamized Pakistan. Israel hated Pakistan for Pakistan helping Arabs in 1967 war.

 

[aaleyan]

Must read the book
by Dr. John Coleman
Committee of 300 - Conspirators' Hierarchy - part 2 of 4

The Club of Rome, acting on Committee of 300 orders to eliminate General ul
Haq, had no compunction in sacrificing the lives of a number of U.S.
servicemen on board the flight, including a U.S. Army Defense Intelligence
Agency group headed by Brigadier General Herber Wassom. General ul Haq had
been warned by the Turkish Secret Service not to travel by plane, as he was
targeted for a mid-air bombing. With this in mind, ul Haq took the United
States team with him as "an insurance policy," as he commented to his inner
circle advisors.

In my 1989 work "Terror' in the Skies," I gave the following account of what
happened: "Shortly before ul Haq's C-130 took off from a Pakistan military
base, a suspicious looking truck was seen close to the hangar that had housed
the C-130. The control tower warned base security, but by the time action was
taken, the C-130 was already airborne and the truck had gone. A few minutes
later the plane began looping-the-loop until it hit the ground and exploded
in a ball of fire. There is no explanation for such behavior by the C-130, an
aircraft with a marvelously reliable record, and a joint Pakistani-United
States board of enquiry Found no pilot error or mechanical or structural
failure. Looping-the-loop is a recognized trade mark of an aircraft hit by
E.L.F. fire.

That the Soviet Union has been able to develop high-peak radio frequency
devices is known to the West through the work of Soviet scientists who work
in the Kurchatov Atomic Energy Institute's Intensive Relatavistic Electron
Beam Division. Two of its specialists were Y. A. Vinograov and A. A.
Rukhadze. Both scientists worked in the Lededev Physics Institute, which
specializes in electronic and X ray lasers.

After receiving this information, I searched for confirmation from other
sources and found that in England the International journal of Electronics
had published some material which ap- peared to confirm the information given
to me about the method chosen to shoot down General ul Haq's C-130. In
addition, the information was confirmed by two of my intelligence sources. I
received some useful information from a Soviet scientific paper on these
subjects, published in England under the title "Soviet Radio Electronics and
Communications Systems." There was no doubt in my mind that General ul Haq
had been murdered. The truck seen near the C-130 hanger undoubtedly carried a
mobile E.L.F. device of the type the Soviet Armed Forces are known to
possess.

According to written testimony by Bhutto, smuggled out of the country while
he was in prison, Kissinger severely threatened him: "I will make a horrible
example if you continue with your nation-building policies." Bhutto had
fallen afoul of Kissinger and the Club of Rome by calling for a nuclear
energy program to bring Pakistan into a modern industrialized state which, in
the eyes of the Committee of 300, was a direct contravention of its orders
delivered by Kissinger to the Pakistani government. What Kissinger was doing
when he threatened Bhutto was not official U.S. policy, but the policy of the
modern-day Illuminati.

One needs to have a clear understanding of just why it is that nuclear power
is so hated all over the world, and why the fake "environmentalist" movement,
established and financially sup- ported by the Club of Rome, was called upon
to wage war on nuclear energy. With nuclear energy generating electricity in
cheap and abundant supplies, Third World countries would gradually become
independent of U.S. foreign aid and begin to assert their sovereignty.
Nuclear generated electricity is THE key to bringing Third World countries
out of their backward state, a state which the Committee of 300 has ordered
to remain in position.

Less foreign aid means less control of a country's natural resources by the
I.M.F. It was this idea of developing nations taking charge of their destiny
that was an anathema to the Club of Rome and its ruling Committee of 300. We
have seen opposition to nuclear power in the United States successfully used
to block industrial development in conformity with the Club's
"Post-Industrial Zero-Growth" plans.

 

[TopCat]

I think Musharraf is more like Zia, its supporting U.S like Zia did.

Zia and Mushi are both like a dictator and general.

Shouldnt it make more sense that KGB killed Zia? Or he was killed by the curse of the people who he himself killed?