Israeli occupation and the astounding silence

[Maira La]

Except thast there was no Palestine.There was a British province,before that there was aOttoman province.Why would the Ottomns have the right to an Empire and not the Brits.It was just another master.No Palestine and certainly no Palestinians.LOOK AT ISRAEL! Why would we want them gone ? They are the light of the ME....Heck!! We should let them rule all he ME!! Think of how they would transform the place !

I don't understand really. What's your rationale for determining whether a particular group of people has the right to live and have a country on their own land? Romania for the last couple of decades was in no way a light of Eastern Europe - you could self-exile yourselves and invite some Gremans to shine some light on your lands. :p

Anyways, I'm not here to argue on behalf of the Palestinians. I believe both Israelis and Palestinians have all the right to remain in their ancestral lands. Both people are genetically linked to the original inhabitants of this land. Most Palestinians are descended from local Jewish tribes - they do look markedly different from Arabs in the Arabian peninsula, like their Mizrahi Jewish brethren. One state for both is my suggested solution to the problem, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[EAK]

R.i.p sister.. Topic in hand is why she was shot without proof or if any then without trial.. people like @flamer84 are dragging it to the holocaust as usual .. where is the trial in your so called the most innocent nation on earth israel..

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

R.i.p sister.. Topic in hand is why she was shot without proof or if any then without trial.. people like @flamer84 are dragging it to the holocaust as usual .. where is the trial in your so called the most innocent nation on earth israel..

Without knowing details, I assume she was shot, because she was deemed a threat.
Anyone knows, You have to obey the Police.

In the light of the multitude of suicide bombers, failure to obey has increased risks.
It is a side effect of using illegal methods in the Palestinian fight for Independence.
People tend to be more trigger happy.

 

[Providence]

I find nothing wrong in here.This is what you get for rejecting a lawfull partition of 1948.They tried to "drove the Jews into the sea" but the Jews fought back and made them eat humble pie.And don't give me the "it wasn't their land routine",it was British land by law of conquest,just like it was Ottoman land before by right of conquest,just like it was arab muslim land by right of conquest before,etc,etc.

What was this 1948 deal ? Could you elaborate ? I am aware of the 1961 developments only w.r.t Israel

 

[Kambojaric]

Stockholm syndrome of a whole nation! Our ancestors suffered we will now take the role of making others suffer!

Really...I am speechless! What does her hijab have to do with their paranoia is beyond me! And people say that Israel gives equal rights...to whom?

There was a time when I used to support the Palestinian cause due to pan-islamist reasons i.e because of Quds and Islamic history in the region. However as my belief in pan-islamism has fallen (primarily due to the fact that our Muslim and Arab "brothers" have done little for the cause of the Muslims suffering in S. Asia) I tried to justify Israel and its actions in various ways hoping that one would click and ease my conscious.

Yet I have come to the conclusion that no human being regardless of religion, ethnicity or language can support the brutality of the Israeli state whose very foundation is based on the idea of genociding and cleansing "their" land of non-jews. Their subsequent arrogance and complete disregard for the rest of the world multiplies the intensity of their crimes and so my conclusion through many years of thinking about this whole issue is that no human being with a heart not of stone can support the Israeli nation. I don't blame modern day Israelis themselves for their violent and genocidal views because they are brainwashed to the core and have had to endure state conditioning on this issue from the day they opened their eyes. However I seriously judge the humanity of those people who support the Israeli state after its commiting of so many crimes, and live in countries where they can freely read about these crimes.

 

[Penguin]

*** licker...

yea yea, first all howl with the wolves and then when there is one voice that is slightly different it has to be silenced.

 

[Mirzah]

yea yea, first all howl with the wolves and then when there is one voice that is slightly different it has to be silenced.

That one voice was justifying this murder of the Palestinian lady, insinuating she was a terrorist when she was not.
israelis are busy silencing their critics by playing holocaust card, anti-antisemitism card and murder.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Maybe if they didn't try to "drive the Jews into the sea" we might have had an answer to your questions.As it stands,they've transformed Israel in a war machine on stereoids with their terror.They reap what they've sawn.

As for the partition,it was legal by law.If you don't agree,maybe you should take your complains to the muslims of the 7th century who conquered that land from Byzantine christians.You see,that's the problem with you folks,you seem to think that muslim conquests are all kosher but Heaven forbid if you're on the receving end of the stick.

Why are you wasting your time arguing bro? Just sit back watch,laugh and enjoy like me. Do ypu really believe you can talk some sense/logic to someone who already has a predetermine conviction? Lol. To themmuslims are all poor victims being oppressed by unbelievers from Britain to U.S to Russia to China etc . While muslims are peaceful non violent holy people who are being abused by others and even when muslims use violence its for the right reason to free non believers into the righteousness of islam .
Never mind that many of them are fleeing their own countries repression/radical laws in huge numbers to go seek asylum in the evil kafir west, and israeli arabs will rather remain israeli than go to their immah muslim country since they know they are better treated and have more freedom/peace in Israel than they would have in their own 'holy/free' countries.

In short the are one of the biggest hypocrites in this world. No need wasting your time on here arguing. Go to other more useful threads and have a proper debate.

 

[Natan]

R.i.p sister..

She is alive, unfortunately. And now the Israeli medical personnel take care of her.

But this one is dead for sure:

 

[Dubious]

Maybe if they didn't try to "drive the Jews into the sea" we might have had an answer to your questions.As it stands,they've transformed Israel in a war machine on stereoids with their terror.They reap what they've sawn.

As for the partition,it was legal by law.If you don't agree,maybe you should take your complains to the muslims of the 7th century who conquered that land from Byzantine christians.You see,that's the problem with you folks,you seem to think that muslim conquests are all kosher but Heaven forbid if you're on the receving end of the stick.

Werent you the same guy who was telling me that those whose parents and grandparents faced the racist comments in the early 60s in Europe should forget about it and move on as its been decades?

When will Jews and Christians move on from Byzantine? Hasnt it been centuries?

As for driving into the sea...That is what Jews are doing to Palestinians by importing non Israeli born jews (Yup none of these Jews, whom you are supporting to let out your blind anger of Muslims - can claim that their father was born in Israel...coz he was not...meaning none of them are even 2nd generation and claiming a land that has been of another people for GENERATIONS!) to push those born on Palestinian soil off their land!

Why are you wasting your time arguing bro? Just sit back watch,laugh and enjoy like me. Do ypu really believe you can talk some sense/logic to someone who already has a predetermine conviction? Lol. To themmuslims are all poor victims being oppressed by unbelievers from Britain to U.S to Russia to China etc . While muslims are peaceful non violent holy people who are being abused by others and even when muslims use violence its for the right reason to free non believers into the righteousness of islam .
Never mind that many of them are fleeing their own countries repression/radical laws in huge numbers to go seek asylum in the evil kafir west, and israeli arabs will rather remain israeli than go to their immah muslim country since they know they are better treated and have more freedom/peace in Israel than they would have in their own 'holy/free' countries.

In short the are one of the biggest hypocrites in this world. No need wasting your time on here arguing. Go to other more useful threads and have a proper debate.

1stly, nothing in your paragraph was worth a debate...All of it was a showcase of a pre-made mindset! Such mindsets are not worth debating!

So all Muslims are to be viewed through your narrow view? Then why not paint all Non Muslims by the same thing SOME non Muslims are doing?

Kindly do show me where Israeli Arabs have said they will rather remain in Israel? Just coz 2-3 people said it...doesnt make it ISRAELI ARABS

From your post you sound like a brainwashed bigot! Sad to know that such things exist in "enlightened" (as per your logic) nations like UK

 

[Maravan]

The world is in mysterious silence against israel when it comes to palestinian oppression, dimona nuclear plant, vanunu and so on...

 

[Dubious]

She is alive, unfortunately. And now the Israeli medical personnel take care of her.

But this one is dead for sure:

So you come online to vent your frustration?

@WebMaster @Horus @Slav Defence @waz is such shit tolerated and not reported to some form of international interpol about a crazy person cheering on death and upset about a Palestinian alive?

Maybe @mike2000 is back can show us how this is fine and Muslims are just worried about nothing

 

[Penguin]

That one voice was justifying this murder of the Palestinian lady, insinuating she was a terrorist when she was not.
israelis are busy silencing their critics by playing holocaust card, anti-antisemitism card and murder.

No it wasn't. That post made the legitimate point there usually is more than 1 side to a story and that it would be a good think to have some sort of inquiry by an objective entitiy.

everyone has got their own version of truth , let there be a probe

Attempted Afula stabber identified as Nazareth woman | The Times of Israel

expereince says palestinians are very good at propaganda while israel as a state has zero tolerance to terrorism .

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/israeli-occupation-and-the-astounding-silence.402630/#ixzz3oLbxw4W3

I'm not too keen on circle jerks and mobs on this forum as they lower the quality of discours and discussion.

 

[Dubious]

That post made the legitimate point there usually is more than 1 side to a story and that it would be a good think to have some sort of inquiry by an objective entitiy.

The "other" side from israeli propaganda website where they kill a girl and plant a rusty knife to say she wanted to stab someone? A knife soo small it could have been a butter knife scares them and soo rusty it wouldnt have caused any harm - assuming it wasnt planted!
P/s: video had no knife but it was placed in evidence and snaps of it found ONLY in israeli media + even a story to legitimize shooting a woman!

Since vast majority swallowed that excuse, same is being said for this woman...THOUGH video clearly shows nothing shiny enough to be called a knife on her! But still sheep of the world bow to israel

 

[Penguin]

The "other" side from israeli propaganda website where they kill a girl and plant a rusty knife to say she wanted to stab someone? A knife soo small it could have been a butter knife scares them and soo rusty it wouldnt have caused any harm - assuming it wasnt planted!
P/s: video had no knife but it was placed in evidence and snaps of it found ONLY in israeli media + even a story to legitimize shooting a woman!

Since vast majority swallowed that excuse, same is being said for this woman...THOUGH video clearly shows nothing shiny enough to be called a knife on her! But still sheep of the world bow to israel

I'm not entering this discussion. Read the wording of the post above. That is not a 'taking sides' post and its poster is not deserving of getting mobbed.

Put differently: if you would prefer a thread to be posted on only by people who take/have the same perspective, please indicate this at the start of the thread, so everybody else knows not to waste their precious time on a circle jerk.

@moderators.