Israeli Iron Dome System saves german cruise ship Aida Diva from palestinian rockets

[LeveragedBuyout]

I believe USA would have supported Israel no matter what

and building economy by what when in the next round of attack those infrastructure would be the first to be targeted.
let me ask you one question have you seen any settelers farm get leveled by idf for no reason at all have you seen their trees get uprooted ?
I think it's very clear why every work on reaching peace in that land have always been failed just look at the number of unscrupulous resolution against Israel that have been vetoed by one country and then compare them by the number of resolutions which were against Palestinian and have been vetoed.

I understand the frustration. I can only offer this:

1) Israel uprooted settlements in Sinai when it signed a peace treaty with Egypt, and uprooted settlements in Gaza in an attempt to gain peace there; so there is reason to believe that settlements will not stand in the way of peace if Israel believes it can have peace

2) If you believe that the US is the only obstacle to recognition of Palestine in the UN, then Palestinians should be working to win over American opinion; launching rockets against civilian targets, even done out of despair, is anathema to the American public

3) economic value leads all other value; look how fast the embargo against Iran has begun to weaken now that Western companies sense an opportunity to do business with Iran. Is this because of a special love of Iran? No. It's because Iran has a relatively attractive economy and abundant natural resources. Should Palestinians develop a similarly attractive economy, you will see similar pressure to do business with the Palestinians, and once other countries have business with the Palestinians, diplomats from those countries will feel compelled to protect those business interests by maneuvering in the diplomatic arena

4) Has extended quiet ever been tried as a strategy by the Palestinians (not tried de facto because of Israeli military and police interdiction, but voluntarily by the Palestinians)? Every other strategy has been tried, why not try non-violence?

The UN is always the end of the process, a formality. South Sudan only gained independence after making internal arrangements with Sudan. So too, the Palestinians will only be able to achieve true independence after making arrangements with Israel.

There are only two strategies to get there:

A) make Israel's involvement with the Palestinians so painful that they will wash their hands of the Palestinians and grant independence. This has been tried for approximately 50 years, without success. In fact, the "deal" available to the Palestinians seems to be getting worse with time

B) make Israel's involvement with the Palestinians so uncomfortable from an ethical standpoint, that they will be shamed into withdrawing. This strategy came close in the 1990s when Israelis saw the value of peace, but the peace camp was blown up by a Palestinian suicide bombing campaign. I believe this strategy can work again if it is tried.

At this point, I wonder what the Palestinians have to lose by trying non-violence.

 

[MarkusS]

I believe USA would have supported Israel no matter what

and building economy by what when in the next round of attack those infrastructure would be the first to be targeted.
let me ask you one question have you seen any settelers farm get leveled by idf for no reason at all have you seen their trees get uprooted ?
I think it's very clear why every work on reaching peace in that land have always been failed just look at the number of unscrupulous resolution against Israel that have been vetoed by one country and then compare them by the number of resolutions which were against Palestinian and have been vetoed.

Why is that even Irans business? As far as i know most Iranians give a shit about Gaza.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Why is that even Irans business? As far as i know most Iranians give a shit about Gaza.

for many things

 

[Hack-Hook]

I understand the frustration. I can only offer this:

1) Israel uprooted settlements in Sinai when it signed a peace treaty with Egypt, and uprooted settlements in Gaza in an attempt to gain peace there; so there is reason to believe that settlements will not stand in the way of peace if Israel believes it can have peace

2) If you believe that the US is the only obstacle to recognition of Palestine in the UN, then Palestinians should be working to win over American opinion; launching rockets against civilian targets, even done out of despair, is anathema to the American public

3) economic value leads all other value; look how fast the embargo against Iran has begun to weaken now that Western companies sense an opportunity to do business with Iran. Is this because of a special love of Iran? No. It's because Iran has a relatively attractive economy and abundant natural resources. Should Palestinians develop a similarly attractive economy, you will see similar pressure to do business with the Palestinians, and once other countries have business with the Palestinians, diplomats from those countries will feel compelled to protect those business interests by maneuvering in the diplomatic arena

4) Has extended quiet ever been tried as a strategy by the Palestinians (not tried de facto because of Israeli military and police interdiction, but voluntarily by the Palestinians)? Every other strategy has been tried, why not try non-violence?

The UN is always the end of the process, a formality. South Sudan only gained independence after making internal arrangements with Sudan. So too, the Palestinians will only be able to achieve true independence after making arrangements with Israel.

There are only two strategies to get there:

A) make Israel's involvement with the Palestinians so painful that they will wash their hands of the Palestinians and grant independence. This has been tried for approximately 50 years, without success. In fact, the "deal" available to the Palestinians seems to be getting worse with time

B) make Israel's involvement with the Palestinians so uncomfortable from an ethical standpoint, that they will be shamed into withdrawing. This strategy came close in the 1990s when Israelis saw the value of peace, but the peace camp was blown up by a Palestinian suicide bombing campaign. I believe this strategy can work again if it is tried.

At this point, I wonder what the Palestinians have to lose by trying non-violence.

1-Israel had peace agreement with west bank , but it seems their settlement continuously increase in those area. and by the way a Palestinian may say well we have Lebanon case .

2-Does american opinion matter much in this case ? what you expect from a country which in its senate ask their future vice president hopeful which country you support is the interest of USA and Israel become against each other ? and well shamefully the right answer would be Israel !!!!!

3-Economic value only worth shit when there is security and foreign investor invest in a country that doing such thing to the Palestinian investment as allowed and goes unpunished ?
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4- what Arafat get by non violent ? let guess Polonium


and by the way Don't forget thatIran Beleve for many reason a two state solution is not viable and the only possible solution is a single state with equal right for all people.

 

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