Israel planning to attack Gaza in coming year

[Falcon29]

Seems like following recent symbolic events in Europe, Israel fears more follow lead in Europe and eventually globally. And if this happens at rate faster than we thought. It doesn't want these symbolic measures to turn into material ones. Therefore my assessment is this threat of launching massive assault on Gaza is an attempt to try gaining popular support for yet another attack in order to derail peace process. By claiming that its security is not guaranteed.

In following months we will see it try provoking Gaza into a conflict. Which will be no different than every time. An unjustified attack resulting in major damage, and many lives of Palestinian men, women and children. It may even go very far, farther than last time and commit atrocities on massive scale to provoke Palestinian population in West Bank into an uprising to derail peace process and cause more violence in its desperate attempt to prevent a Palestinian state.

What's important is that the world is well aware of this Plan A by Israel. Which we have seen in the past. And hopefully the world won't allow it to go far and even possibly prevent it. We don't want any more thousands of Palestinian civilians being killed because Israel refuses to follow international law and prefers subjugation/occupation over a two state solution. That would be a crime against humanity and Israeli leaders would need to be taken to ICC for intentional democide.

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Therefore, members on this forum need to be aware and mark my words. They shouldn't have a double standard or condemn the Palestinians for taking any measures to protect their lives(in form of deterrence). They would have no choice unless world ends Israeli military assaults and puts it under control. I unfortunately expect Israel to carry on this plan.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It's impossible to guess when the next Isreal-Gaza war will happen, since it's such a frequent occurrence.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Therefore, members on this forum need to be aware and mark my words. They shouldn't have a double standard or condemn the Palestinians for taking any measures to protect their lives(in form of deterrence). They would have no choice unless world ends Israeli military assaults and puts it under control. I unfortunately expect Israel to carry on this plan.

What would that measures be ? Entire world will be with Palestinians if they take peaceful & comprehensive steps to end the conflict & violence. But sending Rockets to other sovereign nations territory it will only be condemned as terror tactics.

 

[Falcon29]

It's impossible to guess when the next Isreal-Gaza war will happen, since it's such a frequent occurrence.

Let's avoid calling it a war because it simply isn't. A war requires a certain amount of casualties/damage on both sides, and that is never the case regarding the Israeli side. Nevertheless, Israel never missed attacking during US elections periods. It usually attacks around that time. Their last major assault on Gaza which led to deaths of 2,200 Palestinians took place about a year and seven months after it's 2012 assault. You can expect a similar time frame.

What would that measures be ? Entire world will be with Palestinian if they take peaceful & comprehensive steps to end the conflict & violence. But sending Rockets to other sovereign nations territory it will only be condemned as terror tactics.

Mate, read my post. No Palestinian seeks any confrontation. Israel seeks confrontation for political purposes. And Israel's actions constitute of state-terror. I can show you many examples of Palestinian civilians being deliberately targeted, even whole families. If Israel declared an 'operation' against the Palestinian people they won't just sit and watch while their people are being brutalized unjustly. And if lobbing some simple rockets is all they are capable then so be it. The onus is on the world to prevent such an assault and end Israeli military actions whether that me through UN proposal or meeting. And then world will resume peace process. The point here is that Israel intends to instigate violent confrontation of any sort to derail peace process. Hope you understood my point.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Let's avoid calling it a war because it simply isn't. A war requires a certain amount of casualties/damage on both sides, and that is never the case regarding the Israeli side. Nevertheless, Israel never missed attacking during US elections periods. It usually attacks around that time. Their last major assault on Gaza which led to deaths of 2,200 Palestinians took place about a year and seven months after it's 2012 assault. You can expect a similar time frame.

Why during US elections?

Btw which American political party would you prefer in this situation?

 

[Falcon29]

Why during US elections?

Btw which American political party would you prefer in this situation?

Because with no president in power it complicates diplomatic efforts that could be taken by the US and also requires them to support Israel for fear of being bashed in mainstream media.

I don't prefer any political party in this situation. I may favor one reasonable president but president doesn't have power to change situation. Since House/Senate will take measures to ensure everything goes as Lobbyists prefer.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Mate, read my post. No Palestinian seeks any confrontation. Israel seeks confrontation for political purposes. And Israel's actions constitute of state-terror. I can show you many examples of Palestinian civilians being deliberately targeted, even whole families. If Israel declared an 'operation' against the Palestinian people they won't just sit and watch while their people are being brutalized unjustly. And if lobbing some simple rockets is all they are capable then so be it. The onus is on the world to prevent such an assault and end Israeli military actions whether that me through UN proposal or meeting. And then world will resume peace process. The point here is that Israel intends to instigate violent confrontation of any sort to derail peace process. Hope you understood my point.

Hard to believe mate.... with all the groups like Hamas wreaking havoc but if it's true then its a great news as Palestinian militant outfits stand no chance against Israeli military. The best chance for peace is to negotiate on Israel's term & establish a smaller but more peaceful Palestinian state. It's more of a realistic option than seizing Jerusalem from them.

 

[Falcon29]

Hard to believe mate.... with all the groups like Hamas wreaking havoc but if it's true then its a great news as Palestinian militant outfits stand no chance against Israeli military. The best chance for peace is to negotiate on Israel's term & establish a smaller but more peaceful Palestinian state. It's more of a realistic option than seizing Jerusalem from them.

You are confused about Hamas. They don't intend to wreak havoc. I am very familiar with them and support them. I'm not sure what's hard to believe about it. All reasonable/humane people hope to avoid any violence since the Palestinians would be devastated by it. Problem is if the United States gives a green light for let's say a period of 3-4 weeks then Palestinians are left with no choice but to respond or just sit and watch. Onus is on world to prevent that. International community has no credibility to condemn Palestinian retaliatory measures as 'terrorist' attacks if they fail to end the terror Israel causes for our people.

Palestinians support negotiations. We have always been involved in them for a long time now. It is Israel which derails negotiations when it intentionally announces massive settlement projects on Palestinian territory. Palestinians can't influence events on ground, they are occupied and prevented their basic rights. So they don't really have any options. However, world is more than capable of exerting pressure on Israel. And world position is a two state solution on 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital. And the same position is shared by all Palestinian parties.

 

[Lord ZeN]

You are confused about Hamas. They don't intend to wreak havoc. I am very familiar with them and support them. I'm not sure what's hard to believe about it. All reasonable/humane people hope to avoid any violence since the Palestinians would be devastated by it. Problem is if the United States gives a green light for let's say a period of 3-4 weeks then Palestinians are left with no choice but to respond or just sit and watch. Onus is on world to prevent that. International community has no credibility to condemn Palestinian retaliatory measures as 'terrorist' attacks if they fail to end the terror Israel causes for our people.

Palestinians support negotiations. We have always been involved in them for a long time now. It is Israel which derails negotiations when it intentionally announces massive settlement projects on Palestinian territory. Palestinians can't influence events on ground, they are occupied and prevented their basic rights. So they don't really have any options. However, world is more than capable of exerting pressure on Israel. And world position is a two state solution on 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital. And the same position is shared by all Palestinian parties.

Do you think that Israel wants to get the entire Palestinian territory ? I thought that they just wanted entire Jerusalem ( which is Israel's Capital) for themselves.

 

[Falcon29]

Do you think that Israel wants to get the entire Palestinian territory ? I thought that they just wanted entire Jerusalem ( which is Israel's Capital) for themselves.

Of course Israel wants entire Palestinian territory and are actively(and have been actively) working to achieve that. They even had settlements in Gaza until they were forced out by the resilience of civilian population. However, most of their resources are invested in colonizing the West Bank with what they call 'settlements' which are blocs of homes, apartments and some recreational centers for Jewish immigrants that come from around the world and are built on Palestinian land. Here is some info on them:

Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
UN Security Council to meet on Israeli settlements | Maan News Agency

Recent info:

Israeli settlements squeezing Palestinian tourism, officials say - Yahoo News UK

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We don't really know what Israel exactly wants because it leaves us to guess. It only points fingers at Palestinians and puts onus on them to try configuring that. But onus is on the occupier. It should recognize rights of Palestinian people that are recognized by international community. However, it likes the current status-quo. Is any nation sanctioning Israel over its decades long occupation? No, US vetoes all UN resolutions which could have prevented this mess in first place. Israel is rewarded by huge military aid from mainly US but also European nations. It is fairing fine committing injustice.

And saddest part is the world does nothing to change that.

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You also need to beware of your media sources. Most mainstream media sources are heavily biased and do not give accurate accounts of events taking place. I prefer you try Maan, Al Jazeera English, YoungTurks, Guardian, as some examples for much better background information and credible account.

It seems like you have been unaware of what's been taking place in the past several decades. This is not entirely your fault though, it lies heavily on biased media.

 

[Lord ZeN]

Of course Israel wants entire Palestinian territory and are actively(and have been actively) working to achieve that. They even had settlements in Gaza until they were forced out by the resilience of civilian population. However, most of their resources are invested in colonizing the West Bank with what they call 'settlements' which are blocs of homes, apartments and some recreational centers for Jewish immigrants that come from around the world and are built on Palestinian land. Here is some info on them:

Israeli settlement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
UN Security Council to meet on Israeli settlements | Maan News Agency

Recent info:

Israeli settlements squeezing Palestinian tourism, officials say - Yahoo News UK

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We don't really know what Israel exactly wants because it leaves us to guess. It only points fingers at Palestinians and puts onus on them to try configuring that. But onus is on the occupier. It should recognize rights of Palestinian people that are recognized by international community. However, it likes the current status-quo. Is any nation sanctioning Israel over its decades long occupation? No, US vetoes all UN resolutions which could have prevented this mess in first place. Israel is rewarded by huge military aid from mainly US but also European nations. It is fairing fine committing injustice.

And saddest part is the world does nothing to change that.

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You also need to beware of your media sources. Most mainstream media sources are heavily biased and do not give accurate accounts of events taking place. I prefer you try Maan, Al Jazeera English, YoungTurks, Guardian, as some examples for much better background information and credible account.

It seems like you have been unaware of what's been taking place in the past several decades. This is not entirely your fault though, it lies heavily on biased media.

I sincerely hope that peace prevails between the both the neighbour brother nations. Religion is surely taking a ugly face in the Levant region. Israel & Palestine & surrounding nations( Syria etc.) were the sites of many Ancient Civilizations until the religious conflicts destroyed it. It's much similar to the Indian Sub- Continent.

 

[Falcon29]

Even Israeli's admit that they are colonizers...

Why did Ben-Gurion stop 1948 conquest of Judea and Samaria? - Israel News, Ynetnews

Clearly explains they had interests of conquering land. 'Palmach fighters' were actually terrorist organization. Of course one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. But Israeli's express outrage if colonized victims call their soldiers fighters.

I sincerely hope that peace prevails between the both the neighbour brother nations. Religion is surely taking a ugly face in the Levant region. Israel & Palestine & surrounding nations( Syria etc.) were the sites of many Ancient Civilizations until the religious conflicts destroyed it. It's much similar to the Indian Sub- Continent.

I do not know of case of India/Asia affairs but this is not a religious conflict and religion has little do with any events that have taken place. It is a case of a national people under the worlds longest occupation.

 

[Falcon29]

BBC News - Israel launches Gaza air strike on 'Hamas target'

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Two days after Israeli Defense Minister warned that Israel would be forced to attack Gaza, Israeli military fabricates incident on border. Israeli army claimed rocket hit right at border and fell in sand. Nobody in area heard any sirens or seen any fire. It was a tiny metal pipe according to Israel. However, this is a claim by Israel which is fabricated in order to try provoking the Palestinians into a conflict to prevent them from being able to create a deterrence.

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Yesterday before this hysterical claim they also attacked yet another time:

Israeli naval forces open fire at Gaza fishermen | Maan News Agency

 

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Nobody in area heard any sirens or seen any fire.

Thats false.

A Code Red siren was heard shortly before noon in the Eshkol Regional Council, an Israeli community close to the Israel Gaza border, and was soon followed by blasts, residents reported - indicating that a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip landed in Israel.

Gaza rocket hits Israel for third time since summer war - Israel News, Ynetnews

 

[Falcon29]

Thats false.

A Code Red siren was heard shortly before noon in the Eshkol Regional Council, an Israeli community close to the Israel Gaza border, and was soon followed by blasts, residents reported - indicating that a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip landed in Israel.

Gaza rocket hits Israel for third time since summer war - Israel News, Ynetnews

That is not false, the Palestinians in Gaza live closer to border. No such incident occurred, neither did any blasts. Any blasts are from Israeli/Palestinian military drills. And even if one believes anything coming out of Israeli government, army claimed it landed right on border. Which means either Israeli army is lying or it was stray shell from military training inside Gaza. None of which warrant attacks violating cease fire. Netanyahu has different thoughts on his mind, he wishes to reap gains from Gaza in order to fair well in coming Israeli elections. We have all seen this before.

It's amazing that you suddenly come online once Israel is mentioned. Are you having fun at Hasbara office?