Israel is Beating the war drums Again

[NiceGuy]

US cant afford any war because of its weak economy otherwise it will collapse like Russia

You know just like USSR, USA have a lot kind of bomb, as powerful as Nuke bomb. US droped CBU-55 to VietNam already, and a small town was untterly destroyed with a single blast.

You USA fight serriously, they only take one day to destroy a country , if they don't have any same kind of weapon.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

And what did the vaunted Israeli AF do? They didn't even cross the border. They work with subterfuge, and avoid fights when the adversary is alert and ready. I for one would have loved to see the Israelis try and come - the last time our PAF pilots flew against Israel during the Arab wars, we had achieved a 100% kill ratio, shooting down all aircraft engaged without loosing a single aircraft on our side. There was even an incident where Israel got Urdu-speaking people on the comm radio to direct the Pakistani pilots to land at an airfield the Israelis had captured, but that didn't work. Would have been fun if they had come to our airspace to attack Kahuta, it would have been nice to score some more Israeli AF kills. .

this is pretty much an accurate account; except the israelis got a punjabi khalsa to do the talking; it wasnt Urdu. Punjabi language is NEVER used......from what i remember, the pilots switched to broken Pashto since they caught on to the bluff real quick.

it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if the IAF approached the hornets nest, but luckily (for their sake) they desisted and spared themselves a lot of embarrassment

 

[Hussein]

You too?? You too have fallen for Israeli debka's propaganda articles?? What a shame.

it is not only debka (which i don't have any respect for their partiality)
you can see it in many sources, i mean "western" sources
but then maybe i am wrong. i would hope so. should i trust you that KSA didn't say Israel can overflight your country?

 

[500]

I doubt if Israel will attack. It always uses subterfuge and deceit to reach it's objectives, not so good when the adversary is forewarned, alert and ready.

Case in point: Israel attempt at Kahuta after Osirak - Kahuta was Pakistan's primary nuclear weapons development complex back in the 80's. However, Pakistan was forewarned and had prepared a befitting welcome for the Israeli AF. Saudi AWACS had detected Israel's aircraft flying over the Arabian sea towards India, and according to senior AF officials, Pakistan only got warned at 12AM. By 4AM, when enemy aircraft were detected approaching our borders from the Indian side, the whole airforce was alert with ground air-defences as well as combat aircraft performing CAP(Combat Air Patrols) over Kahuta.

And what did the vaunted Israeli AF do? They didn't even cross the border. They work with subterfuge, and avoid fights when the adversary is alert and ready. I for one would have loved to see the Israelis try and come - the last time our PAF pilots flew against Israel during the Arab wars, we had achieved a 100% kill ratio, shooting down all aircraft engaged without loosing a single aircraft on our side. There was even an incident where Israel got Urdu-speaking people on the comm radio to direct the Pakistani pilots to land at an airfield the Israelis had captured, but that didn't work. Would have been fun if they had come to our airspace to attack Kahuta, it would have been nice to score some more Israeli AF kills.

Distance between Israel and Kahuta is 3500 km. Thats about 3 times more than operational radius of F-16. Thats what happens when idiots who did not learn geography at school invent stupid stories.

Second story is not less hilarious, since Pakistaniu pilots operated from Jordan and Iraq and Israel never captured any Jordanian or Iraqi airbase.

 

[Qasibr]

Distance between Israel and Kahuta is 3500 km. Thats about 3 times more than operational radius of F-16. Thats what happens when idiots who did not learn geography at school invent stupid stories.

Second story is not less hilarious, since Pakistaniu pilots operated from Jordan and Iraq and Israel never captured any Jordanian or Iraqi airbase.

You should read before commenting. The attack was to be coordinated with India, with aircraft taking off from Indian bases. This incident is widely known, with many official sources. The head of the ISI at the time, Gen. Hameed Gul, is also on record stating that a retaliatory strike on Dimona(Israel's nuclear weapons complex) was also threatened. Israeli F-16s were even detected airborne across the border, but Israel called it off.

This isn't the first time Israel's involved in subterfuge against Pakistan either. Another public incident was Kargil. In Kashmir, Pakistan and India don't have an International Border, only a Line-of-Control that was declared after the last ceasefire - the Line-of-Control has shifted many times(Kargil, for example, has changed hands three times). In 1999, India had a very hard time at Kargil, and according to Israel's ambassador to India, Israel "helped India out in that desperate situation". What is known is, Israel supplied chemical&biological weapons, which Pakistan's strategic planners hadn't counting on India having. That resulted in a few hundred casualties, which is a tragedy, but despite Israel's help, Pakistan still gained territory, like the strategic Peak 5353 that India repeatedly tried to recapture for years with many *many* failed operations(It's important to them because their only supply highway through the mountains can be bombarded from that peak).

So Israel's involvement is known, even though quiet a few people are ignorant about it.

 

[500]

You should read before commenting. The attack was to be coordinated with India, with aircraft taking off from Indian bases. This incident is widely known, with many official sources.

Thats dumbest conspiracy story in worlds history. In 80-es India did not even recognoze Israel.

The head of the ISI at the time, Gen. Hameed Gul, is also on record stating that a retaliatory strike on Dimona(Israel's nuclear weapons complex) was also threatened.

How can Pakistan attack Dimona?

In 1999, India had a very hard time at Kargil, and according to Israel's ambassador to India, Israel "helped India out in that desperate situation". What is known is, Israel supplied chemical&biological weapons, which Pakistan's strategic planners hadn't counting on India having. That resulted in a few hundred casualties, which is a tragedy, but despite Israel's help, Pakistan still gained territory, like the strategic Peak 5353 that India repeatedly tried to recapture for years with many *many* failed operations(It's important to them because their only supply highway through the mountains can be bombarded from that peak).

Israel's help during Kargil war is well know, but chemical and biological weapons thats

 

[KS]

How can Pakistan attack Dimona?

Hey few week s before they were threatening US..whats Israel in front of them ?

 

[JAT BALWAN]

You should read before commenting. The attack was to be coordinated with India, with aircraft taking off from Indian bases. This incident is widely known, with many official sources. The head of the ISI at the time, Gen. Hameed Gul, is also on record stating that a retaliatory strike on Dimona(Israel's nuclear weapons complex) was also threatened. Israeli F-16s were even detected airborne across the border, but Israel called it off.

This isn't the first time Israel's involved in subterfuge against Pakistan either. Another public incident was Kargil. In Kashmir, Pakistan and India don't have an International Border, only a Line-of-Control that was declared after the last ceasefire - the Line-of-Control has shifted many times(Kargil, for example, has changed hands three times). In 1999, India had a very hard time at Kargil, and according to Israel's ambassador to India, Israel "helped India out in that desperate situation". What is known is, Israel supplied chemical&biological weapons, which Pakistan's strategic planners hadn't counting on India having. That resulted in a few hundred casualties, which is a tragedy, but despite Israel's help, Pakistan still gained territory, like the strategic Peak 5353 that India repeatedly tried to recapture for years with many *many* failed operations(It's important to them because their only supply highway through the mountains can be bombarded from that peak).

So Israel's involvement is known, even though quiet a few people are ignorant about it.[/QUOTE


WOW.. so without that chemical & biological weapons pakistan`s army is invincible no? Thanks god you didn`t mention alien weapons