Israel hopes for rapprochement with fifth Muslim country before Trump exit: minister

[Malik Alpha]

I hope Pakistan never recognize Israel even if the whole world goes against us. F the zionists.

 

[terry5]

There is no such thing as "the Arabs". Just because they speak a common language doesn't mean they are a single people. The Gulf has its own heritage and interests, apart from the Levant, apart from Egypt, apart from North Africa, apart from Iraq, and apart from Yemen. Even the Gulf is quite diverse and divergent. Oman is not even a Sunni country.
The Gulf countries, along with Morocco and Sudan, are perfectly justified in normalizing relations with Israel. The historic conflict between Jews and Arabs is increasingly losing relevance in the 21st century. Now we are seeing a sort of new civilizational struggle between Iran and the Semites for dominance in the region. It is largely an economic rivalry.
As a Pakistani, I believe we should throw in our lot with the Semitic world, especially Israel. We share a common religion (Sunni Islam), we are both threatened by a belligerent neighbor Iran.
Wherever Iran took over there is chaos, look at Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen. It would have been the same in Bahrain if God forbid the "Arab Spring" protests succeeded there back in 2011.
Personally I strongly dislike the Gulf Arab regimes, with possible exception of Qatar. I hate Dubai and everything it symbolizes. I hate the Saudi regime and MBS. But that's because of their domestic issues. Geopolitically, the Gulf states are brilliant for hosting the US in their bases, brilliant for normalizing relations with Israel, and brilliant for being part of the alliance against Iran.

You are qadiani not Muslim
Whole Islamic world societies and countries have declared yous as unbelievers and out of Islam due to your comic book fairy British tales .

Your more loyal to isreal than any Arab country tell me if I lie ?

 

[Cliftonite]

You are qadiani not Muslim
Whole Islamic world societies and countries have declared yous as unbelievers and out of Islam due to your comic book fairy British tales .

Your more loyal to isreal than any Arab country tell me if I lie ?

Stfu with your bigotry.

@waz Please take notice.

 

[terry5]

I hope Pakistan never recognize Israel even if the whole world goes against us. F the zionists.

only the qadianis want to friend there masters isreal but they only created by British to destroy Islam as you can see on this forum these kaafirs masquerading as Muslims , they support the murder destruction of Palestinians heck have even oppress them for the isreali army .

Stfu with your bigotry.

@waz Please take notice.

stop your undercover sneaky trickery
Whole Muslim world be it sunni , Shia say your kaafirs , a lie I tell ??????
even Pakistan constitution declares qadiani as unbelievers ,

 

[Cliftonite]

stop your undercover sneaky trickery
Whole Muslim world be it sunni , Shia say your kaafirs , a lie I tell ??????
even Pakistan constitution declares qadiani as unbelievers ,

I'm not an Ahmadi you idiot. And neither is the poster. He's an ex Ahmadi.

Not every post is a place for you bombers to sh*t from your bigoted mouths

 

[Ziri]

China is continuously debt trapping Pakistan.
Look, Pakistan can't afford to keep spending money on the military and defense like this. Government spending is out of control. Pakistan badly needs foreign investment and jobs.

For Pakistan to build a long term relationship with China is much better than wasting time dealing with the Gulf micro-states. Most of the Gulf states have uncertain future and might not even exist in just a few decades from now.

 

[Cliftonite]

For Pakistan to build a long term relationship with China is much better that wasting time dealing with the Gulf micro-states. Most of the Gulf states have uncertain future and might not even exist a few years from now.

That's true though. Gulf states are one Iranian attack away from collapse

 

[terry5]

I'm not an Ahmadi you idiot. And neither is the poster. He's an ex Ahmadi.

Not every post is a place for you bombers to sh*t from your bigoted mouths

a lie you tell trickster no wonder they ban you lot from Mecca and medina only tine you come near holy lands is when you kill Palestinians for Israelis . White worshippers even use the bomber slur daddy Uses . Even Algeria has sussed out your trickery sneaky little British created shits I don’t mind you lot only when you pretend to be Muslim like your boyfriend from over the border with the avatar of the bastard qadiani mirza the false prophet who one day was Jesus next day Krishna the Hindu and next day God . My gosh what sneaky mofos

Algeria’s Ahmadis, an ‘Israeli plot,’ forced to worship behind closed doors

Pacifist Muslim sect, which operates freely in Israel, is accused by Algerian government minister of working with Israel to destabilize country

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Ziri]

"Pakistan is squandering a golden opportunity" ??? Pakistan is not a thug nation like those Arab sheikdoms among them Morocco who couldn't stand up to Iran and are therefore seeking the military protection of Israel. Shame on the Arab sheikdoms and Glory to Pakistan.

Arabs should make peace with Iran, and not with Israel. Shame on them.

Arabs should make peace with Iran, and not with Israel. Shame on them.

FYI: Sunni Algeria has been in peace and in economic and military partnership with Iran for decades and nothing will change that despite the pressure from the Gulf states.

 

[Ziri]

there is a difference between not liking that they exist the way they did and not recognizing israel. Fact is, they are their and plan to exist for the foreseeable future.

Personally i would love it if the entirety of them either decided to pack up and go back to Europe / Africa / Yemen / Iraq / Iran ..etc and leave Palestine to Palestinians, but this is not happening.

The next best thing is normalize relations and let time heal and inshallah benefit the Palestinians

You are entitled to you own opinion, but not to your own facts. An Abu Dhabi national cannot possibly understand the plea of the Palestinian people because contrary to Abu Dhabi, Palestine has an ancient history that dates back to the beginning of time. Abu Dhabi is a state that has never fought or won a war during all its short history, contrary to the Palestinians who have started a struggle of liberation from the Zionist invader and who ultimately will liberate their country from the foreign occupier that is Israel.

 

[Ziri]

You idiot.

I wasn't talking about Algeria at all. I was talking about Pakistan. I was talking to a fellow Pakistani. I don't give a shit about Algeria or what it does.


And yeah. Algeria and Algerians are a joke as well. Only famous for exporting terrorists to Europe and blowing up offices of Charlie Hebdo. You're no better.

Oh and also starring in French blue films of a particular persuasion if you catch my drift. Come down to Earth before you talk to me Sandy.

Very good. J'adore Israel just for the perpetual pain it causes people like you. May Tel Aviv and Casablanca prosper and may you keep burning in your Jihadi hate, dear Sandy from Algiers.

Cliftonite an admirer of Casablanca and Tel Aviv. "You don't give a shit about Algeria", and Algeria doesn't know you even exist. Algerians like and respect Pakistan as a country because Pakistan fought for its freedom and is highly vigilant for its national security and independence. Please stop calling everyone around you an "idiot" and have respect for others so that they will respect you back. Thank You.

 

[Nasr]

You are qadiani not Muslim
Whole Islamic world societies and countries have declared yous as unbelievers and out of Islam due to your comic book fairy British tales .

Your more loyal to isreal than any Arab country tell me if I lie ?

They (qadianis) are the creation of the British, when they had colonized the Mughal Empire. The British favored the hindus over the Muslims and did whatever they could to malign, distort and sow the seeds of divisions amongst Muslims, as they possibly could. No one ever remembers, or bothers to study, but it was the British who masterminded the collapse of the Ottomans and to break up the institution of Khilafah. While they (British) were doing this in the Middle East, they faced an astonishingly ferocious opposition and rebellion in the former Mughal Empire they usurped. Something had to be done, as the British couldn't afford lose their most treasured colony.

I have said it time and time again, qadianis are NOT Muslim. Yet, as a Muslim, we must invite them to Islam and show them that we are all in pursuit of establishing and preserving Imaan. If they choose to reject Islam, and then also claim to be Muslim ..... Then they will have a problem, that they will face the consequences of.

We are Muslim, yet we have let ourselves down, because we succumb to hubris, arrogance, jealousy, envy, greed, vanity and betrayal. I say to you, my fellow Muslims, we need to approach the Noble Qur'an with sincerity in our hearts and establish Imaan through this endeavor of reciting and studying the Noble Qur'an. Do this, without procrastination and focus on what we must do as members of the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. Nationalism, sectarianism, feudalism, liberalism and whatever other 'ism there exists, is meaningless, futile and not what a Muslim must be pursuing.

I end this post by telling those who know who they are, I am referring to. I know you aren't truly Pakistani, nor Muslim and your posts are designed to create dissention, anarchy ..... essentially, fitnah. For the sole purpose of your activity and attitude is that you wish to see Pakistan destroyed from within. The only thing you forget, is that you may destroy Pakistan, but you cannot destroy a Muslim's Imaan in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. And that my fellow humans, is the most powerful, the creator of all creation, the one, the only absolute .... ALLAH!

So to the qadianis, you are welcome to join us in Islam and we will welcome you with open arms as fellow Muslim brothers, the Ummati of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam, the final Prophet of Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. And He (Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam) has declared that Isa Alaihi Salaam shall return. So join Islam, as a true Muslim. Who knows, Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah will reward you with powerful Imaan even before most of us. It is Allah who chooses whom to empower, whom to forgive and whom to punish.

Side Note: Let me remind everyone here that the Khilafah isn't the personal property of the Ottomans, Turks or anyone else for that matter. Study the Noble Qur'an to gain Imaan, and then study Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam to establish the correct and only Islam in your hearts and minds.

 

[Ceylal]

Lol India is still more relevant than Algeria.

Not in Africa and the Mediterranean area...Nobody knows about India, but it’s food..

 

[Ziri]

Not in Africa and the Mediterranean area...Nobody knows about India, but it’s food..

States have either allies or enemies, relevance is a subjective matter. What is relevant to Cliftonite would probably no be relevant to me. For various reasons Algeria feels closer to Pakistan than it does to India, but there no animosity between India and Algeria whatsoever. As for who is relevant to Cliftonite, who gives a damn ? lol

 

[El Sidd]

States have either allies or enemies, relevance is a subjective matter. What is relevant to Cliftonite would probably no be relevant to me. For various reasons Algeria feels closer to Pakistan than it does to India, but there no animosity between India and Algeria whatsoever. As for who is relevant to Cliftonite, who gives a damn ? lol

There is a general feeling of goodwill in any Pak Algeri interaction.

Both countries share common aspirations for the future and a comparable past to be dignified about.

Its true that India enjoys fair bit of soft power in the region but politically aware Algerians don't see India's colonial hegemonic foreign policy with much respect.