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The whole world thinks that you muzzies are terrorists,but that's not my problem.As per keeping my head down,sry sand $$$$$,I know my history,it has nothing to do with some sclaves imported punjabis some 400 years ago....my head is high

lol its not Punjab.. You stupid! it is Gujarat. I don't understand why you are so mad at muslims? Muslims are here to stay no matter how loud you bark.. Keep your head high because the higher you try to climb the harder you will fall.
 
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Well, its not. Pakistan is a different nation on the map last time I checked.

Maybe you lot should have believed in the "problem" yourselves and not backstab like you did (and have temerity to screech 3 million to everyone and more recently things like "burning women alive is a Pakistani thing to do")...before you start this high and mighty preaching for ppl from Pakistan?

Pro-tip: practice what you preach out there as the full identity you claim before you start the identity politics charade for others.

@Indus Pakistan @PAKISTANFOREVER

This doesn't concern you Abhinandnan.

Be gone.
 
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Man, I hope the ummah truly unites as one. Just as we pray as one inshallah one day we can face the world as one. The prophet (PBUH) is an example for us and when the Shabi (RA) were united they conquered both Rome and Persia. Unfortunately if we don't learn from our mistakes then we are bound to be cut like vegetables and fruits. This secular/nationalist ideology is bullshit and it is a cancer that should be resected from muslim lands.
 
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Man, I hope the ummah truly unites as one. Just as we pray as one inshallah one day we can face the world as one. The prophet (PBUH) is an example for us and when the Shabi (RA) were united they conquered both Rome and Persia. Unfortunately if we don't learn from our mistakes then we are bound to be cut like vegetables and fruits. This secular/nationalist ideology is bullshit and it is a cancer that should be resected from muslim lands.

Ameen.
 
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This doesn't concern you Abhinandnan.

Be gone.

Your PM begs to differ. Such a nice lady when she comes to this identity stuff:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/burn...stan-bnp-jamaat-says-pm-sheikh-hasina.613387/

95% mandate from her people too.

Is the neighbour my problem? no
Is the city my problem? no
Is the country my problem? no
Is the earth my problem? no
Is the universe my problem? no

You can chose to live in your compartmentalised box and pretend nothing exists outside the vision of your eyes.

Some people like to have interests outside of them selves.

I agree, but the identity someone is from (if the someone is projecting identity of that nature to be relevant on such matters) should have a base credibility on the issue before it requests another to virtue posture.
 
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OUR Fault????????...........Palestinians/Arabs ARE NOT Pakistanis and we are not them. This has got NOTHING to do with us.

You are right, but also not. We are not Palestinians, we are not Arab. You are Pakistani I am Iranian, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is not our business. But if you look at it from a muslim point of view, then things change. Should we only care what happens in our countries? If tomorrow, US attacks and destroys Meccah. Does it still have nothing to do with us because we are not Saudi Arabian/American?

I should add:

Al-Nu’man ibn Bashir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 5665, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2586

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of God, and be not divided among yourselves, and remember God's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus God makes His signs clear to you, that you may be guided."

Q.3:105

"And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment."

Q.6:159

"Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects, you (O Muhammad) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with God, Who then will tell them what they used to do."

Q.23:52

.....that ye should remain steadfast in religion and make no DIVISIONS therein....."

Q.49:13

"O Men, We created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may KNOW one another (NOT THAT YOU MAY DESPISE EACH OTHER)."

Q.30:22

“Oh mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of God is the most righteous of you. “

(Q49:13)

So Quran teaches us to hold on together and not divide. And Our prophet (according to some hadith) told us that if a muslim is in pain, all muslims will feel his pain.

Turkey knows what to do with Hagia Sophia.
Hagia Sophia was a church not synagogue.
 
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Is the neighbour my problem? no
Is the city my problem? no
Is the country my problem? no
Is the earth my problem? no
Is the universe my problem? no

You can chose to live in your compartmentalised box and pretend nothing exists outside the vision of your eyes.

Some people like to have interests outside of them selves.
You exactly do that.You live in a triage induced compartments. Your wife/children, your parents, your siblings, your extended family, your friends, so on, so on, the circle gets larger but triage reduces the resources you employ on those ever expanding outer circles till you hear the news of 1,000 African's die of drowning while trying to cross the Mediteranean. You stop for a second. Sigh. And then proceed to order some prime cut beef from the butcher.

That is life. If you did not employ triage to the chaos, injustice, inequity that suurounds you, you would never get home because you would wear out saving the world.
 
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You exactly do that.You live in a triage induced compartments. Your wife/children, your parents, your siblings, your extended family, your friends, so on, son, the circle gets larger but triage reduces the resources you employ on those ever expanding outer circles till you hear the news of 1,000 African's die of drowning while trying to cross the Mediteranean. You stop for a second. Sigh. And then proceed to order some prime cut beef from the butcher.

That is life. If you did not employ triage to the chaos, injustice, inequity that suurounds you, you would never get home because you would wear out saving the world.

Or you could expand exponentially and just accept that good exists and evil exists and keep going on as normal
 
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If you consider yourself a Pakistani. Then you should be the last person to say that we should mind our own business when it comes to muslim ummah. If Ahmed shah Abdali only cared about his own business then those same people would be drinking at least 1 liter of cow piss early in the morning. Followed by brushing their teeth with cow Dung. When hindus came for our asses and had us against the wall. It was a forgeiner muslim leader that saved our honor. He came with a muslim army that defeated the kuffar and drove them back. If he said I'm Afghani or w/e bullshit there would be no Pakistan today. We would all be eating pav bagi and idly sambar. Taking showers in shit Ganga.. Give me a break.
 
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Give it up man.

This isnt relevant to this thread.

If you ask another from another nation of the ummah to take a stand for the ummah....Your nation better be credible on it first. Capiche?

Otherwise its just projecting/goading another to posture on an issue....when you come from someplace clearly proven bankrupt on the matter by its very existence. Priorities need logic. Your country is founded on breaking apart a Muslim country and then continually perpetuating the chorus that "they" killed 3 million innocent of you....to this day (And then salt and peppered by your leader to keep it fuelled and fanned).

Then you tell another Muslim that they should project and coalesce at some quite unpractical level for something 1000 miles away ....while you do nothing to sort out whats happened among you lot?

That should be THEIR choice purely (people from the baseline credible ummah countries), and your advice/support/posturing just degrades the argument in the end....if identity politics is to apply to A but not to B.

Again it is your refuge here to bark dreams and theory for a reason in the "I'm pro Pak, pro ummah wooo" style....while simultaneously treading on ppl feet that question Bangladesh fundamental duplicity when it comes to exactly that subject...all one needs to do is go to the BD subforum to see it (from you and your little mob there).

Essentially:

"Go this far..but only this far" *draws line*....do not take things to the logical conclusion on what I say....only for other things that I personally declare as a safe space and fair game.

The reality of both your existence and fundamental treason disturbs you clearly....you see how identity politics is dbl edged sword? Yet you want to be a hypocrite about it by selectively applying it....amusing.
 
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Or you could expand exponentially and just accept that good exists and evil exists and keep going on as normal
My point stands, whether you have the strength to accept it. Your life is governed in concentric circles which spread out and along a sliding scale you reduce the resources you are prepared to employ. In other words you are economical with time/effort and concern that you are prepared to invest. If you were not, you would go stir crazy.

The same triage that we as individuals employ is also used by states. If Pakistan for instance did not use the economics of triage and self interest I am sure the Talibturds would be most pleased seeing -

  • Pakistan deploying army on the Pak/China border and warning if China persists in persecuting our Uighur Muslims we will have no choice but use military force to protect our Muslim brothers in Uighuristan. Any consequences inshallah Allah will judge.
  • Pakistan Army deployed to Afghanistan to protect millions of Muslim women, children against the heathen Christian/Zionist hordes occupying that country.
  • Pakistan Navy sent to Bay of Bengal to shell and carry out missile strikes on Myanmar bas*tards for raping our Muslim sisters in the Rohinyga
And the list can go on, on on ....

Is this what Talibturds want?
 
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If you ask another from another nation of the ummah to take a stand for the ummah....Your nation better be credible on it first. Capiche?

Otherwise its just projecting/goading another to posture on an issue....when you come from someplace clearly proven bankrupt on the matter by its very existence. Priorities need logic. Your country is founded on breaking apart a Muslim country and then continually perpetuating the chorus that "they" killed 3 million innocent of you....to this day (And then salt and peppered by your leader to keep it fuelled and fanned).

Then you tell another Muslim that they should project and coalesce at some quite unpractical level for something 1000 miles away ....while you do nothing to sort out whats happened among you lot?

That should be THEIR choice purely (people from the baseline credible ummah countries), and your advice/support/posturing just degrades the argument in the end....if identity politics is to apply to A but not to B.

Again it is your refuge here to bark dreams and theory for a reason in the "I'm pro Pak, pro ummah wooo" style....while simultaneously treading on ppl feet that question Bangladesh fundamental duplicity when it comes to exactly that subject...all one needs to do is go to the BD subforum to see it (from you and your little mob there).

Essentially:

"Go this far..but only this far" *draws line*....do not take things to the logical conclusion on what I say....only for other things that I personally declare as a safe space and fair game.

The reality of both your existence and fundamental treason disturbs you clearly....you see how identity politics is dbl edged sword? Yet you want to be a hypocrite about it by selectively applying it....amusing.

You better take some Imodium for that verbal diarrhea.
 
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