Israel BETRAYED!

[PteX]

I cant believe it we do have some empathy. We have these problems too.

Don`t flatter yourself. You and i have zero in common, you are no better than the extremists you complain about.
You`re racist, full of hatred you barely understand and see demons in people who don`t share you ideology.

 

[somebozo]

Everyone has their share of Talibans!

 

[T-Rex]

The same American Society gave them Equal rights and the best quality of life which you die for!

They were given Equal opportunities, The rest of the Ethnicities prospored under the same enviornment, The Orientals, Indians, Jews!

The Black Man and the Islamic Man could never improve!

Why?

Blacks have the highest Crime Rates in the US!

Muslims are the Most Spied upon and have to undergo frequent in the US!

Mr. banana, the american blacks are not the topic here, they have been used as reference. The effort to cover up the discrimination and persecution in israel by refering to the standard of living is the issue here. Read the post you've quoted and try to understand the substance before commenting.

 

[Elmo]

Switch the word Rabbi and Halakha with mullah and Shariah, switch Israel with Pakistan ---- Sympathy,, really it's fear, we fear for you, for what will become of you - look at what become of us

Why switch? Why not just highlight the bigoted and the radical among the Jews?

You do realise that you are asking for introspection by Muslims by using a wrong example. They can never see beyond the 'Judaism" and 'Islam' lines.

Coming back, you think the other non-rabid people are this blind not see such shortcomings?

You think the non-rabid people are this mute not to raise their voice against what is wrong?

Or you think that the non-rabid are this dumb not to guage what's being done in the name of religion?

The Attorney General considers a book calling for the killing of innocent children an act of criminal incitement. The rabbis and their supporters consider this an impertinent interference in a learned religious debate. There can be no real compromise between these two views.

Who are the supporters - it's the ordinary people!

Therefore, for a pious Jew - or Muslim - the European idea of separation between state and religion is anathema.

There are many other trends. But all of these keep quiet. It is Lior, the rabbi who Possesses the Light, and his like-minded colleagues, who chart the course.

Because the non-rabid want them to.

I am done with the whole coercion into such acts theory. Everyone has a choice, and people do choose.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

everyone has a CHOICE

and ideally everyone should be free to LIVE and everyone should be allowed to LIVE

leave religion in the heart....that's where it belongs.


as for the bigots and extremists --well, every religious group has its share of whackos -undoubtedly.

 

[muse]

Why switch? Why not just highlight the bigoted and the radical among the Jews?

You do realise that you are asking for introspection by Muslims by using a wrong example. They can never see beyond the 'Judaism" and 'Islam' lines.

Coming back, you think the other non-rabid people are this blind not see such shortcomings?

You think the non-rabid people are this mute not to raise their voice against what is wrong?

Or you think that the non-rabid are this dumb not to guage what's being done in the name of religion?




Who are the supporters - it's the ordinary people!




Because the non-rabid want them to.

I am done with the whole coercion into such acts theory. Everyone has a choice, and people do choose.

There is the question of of our common experience - this was what I was pointing to and in addition, as I made the point before, we have become warped, it is not just that we are a brutal and brutalized peoples, you are right that it's our silence, it's the common person's silence, their lack of outrage, their inability to realize that they are, betrayed -- it's true of Muslims of Jews, of Hindus, of any religion in which faith in God has come to be replaced by a totalitarian fascistic approach to humanity and the experience of being religious, the very meaning of "religious" is warped into something that is an abomination - books proposing killing children, written by a Rabbi - it's an abomination, a betrayal.

More than all of these I think, the realization that we are all pretty much in the same boat, is an awareness, I think, can at least allow peoples to consider that they are not poles apart, that they are connected in a deep experience, that awakening one, is a kin to awakening all others who refuse to have their conscience betrayed, their confessional heritages warped.

can people see beyond Muslim and Jew and Hindu --- Yes, of course they can, if we give them a chance to.

 

[Banana]

Mr. banana, the american blacks are not the topic here, they have been used as reference. The effort to cover up the discrimination and persecution in israel by refering to the standard of living is the issue here. Read the post you've quoted and try to understand the substance before commenting.

T-Rex,

The Blacks and the Muslims were my reference to convey a point which you Blatantly Missed!

The Israeli and the American Societies do keep the capability to provide that Standard of Living!

When I look back at the African and Muslim countries, I don't find them anywhere near, even those in the American or Israeli Societies!



I agree the Arabs are not treated on Par with the Rest of the Israeli Society.

Discrimination is a Harsh Word in this Context.

There is a sense of Biasness against the Arabs!

I don't deny that!

Compare back that to the African and Muslim Societies!

You would get your Substance!

 

[Mosamania]

T-Rex,

The Blacks and the Muslims were my reference to convey a point which you Blatantly Missed!

The Israeli and the American Societies do keep the capability to provide that Standard of Living!

When I look back at the African and Muslim countries, I don't find them anywhere near, even those in the American or Israeli Societies!



I agree the Arabs are not treated on Par with the Rest of the Israeli Society.

Discrimination is a Harsh Word in this Context.

There is a sense of Biasness against the Arabs!

I don't deny that!

Compare back that to the African and Muslim Societies!

You would get your Substance!

I am pretty sure me living here in Saudi Arabia get better treatment than Palastenians in Israel and better standard of living. So the whole (They are better off than any other Arab country) thing could not be more wrong.

 

[Banana]

I am pretty sure me living here in Saudi Arabia get better treatment than Palastenians in Israel and better standard of living. So the whole (They are better off than any other Arab country) thing could not be more wrong.

We are comparing Israeli Arabs with the Jews(not Palestinians) and Israeli Arabs sure have a better life than other Arabs

 

[Mosamania]

We are comparing Israeli Arabs with the Jews(not Palestinians) and Israeli Arabs sure have a better life than other Arabs

To you it is Israeli Arabs. To me every Arab in Philistia is Palastenian.

sure with all this hate they are living a happy and dandy life.

 

[T-Rex]

We are comparing Israeli Arabs with the Jews(not Palestinians) and Israeli Arabs sure have a better life than other Arabs

Listen mr. banana, it is not about standard of living, it is about DISCRIMINATION and PERSECUTION and your repitation of your crap won't make it so. The blacks in america were subject to discrimination and persecution even though their living standard was much higher than the living standard of the black Africans but that did not keep the black americans from struggling for their rights because that fact was irrelevant. The issue was DISCRIMINATION and PERSECUTION not standard of living.

 

[Mosamania]

Israel should work on educating the people that Goyam=Jew.....But sadfuly extremism is on the rise in Israel. While on the other hand it is going a lot down here where I live. I guess times really are a changing.

 

[Banana]

To you it is Israeli Arabs. To me every Arab in Philistia is Palastenian.

sure with all this hate they are living a happy and dandy life.

Arab citizens of Israel or Israeli Arabs, refers to citizens of Israel who are not Jewish, and whose cultural and linguistic heritage or ethnic identity is Arab.

Arab citizens of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestinians are Different!

 

[Mosamania]

Arab citizens of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestinians are Different!

I think I clearly said "To me"....

 

[Banana]

I think I clearly said "To me"....

Well, It's your Take!

But Fact remains a Fact!