Israel and Pakistan Building 2nd Strike Capability With AIP Submarines

[Razia Sultana]

That,s right Also india would not be too bad for them if they really applied the concept of secularism there.But india is one big joke in the name of secularism. I believe we should be secular muslim majority state and there is nothing wrong with it,at least that will stop religion being misused by the terrorists. The problem with indian muslims is that they are muslims who are trapped inside a hindu india .They are indians but treated as a third class citizens in so called secular india. MA jinnah saw it coming but the ones who did not left india were fooled in the name of secularism and now they are paying the price.

If Jinnah had a vision, he would not have created pakistan. He divided not just india but also the muslims of india. Indian constitution treats all citizens as equal which is not the case in Pakistan so you assume indian muslims are treated in india in the same way as you treat your minorities. If you think muslims are trapped in india then they would be migrating at the first opportunity but the fact is many muslims have migrated to india from Afghanistan to Bangladesh. As regards to third class citizen.... do you know who is the richest non-king muslim in the world??? He is an Indian and his name is Azim Premji. A third class ctizen???

 

[Kaniska]

In ancient times the land known as Bharat Varsh or Jambu Dweep or Aryavart was the land shown in the map of Akhand Bharat. Today's Bharat is khandit Bharat and not Akhand. Tell any staunch hindu nationalist in India if he would like Pakistan or Bangladesh to merge, his answer will be NO WAY.... it was a good riddance. This Akhand Bharat refers only to where hindu civilization was born and flourished. Much water has flown since. Advent of Buddhism, Islam and christianity has changed the culture of India. In fact SAARC is Akhand Bharat. When students are asked to draw the map of India during Ashoka's reign, it covers Afghanistan. In hitherto history Akhan Bharat was never ruled by one king. Let history be history. Any fear that Akhand Bharat is the agenda of Indians is nothing but a propaganda.

Spot on Razia..

 

[Zhukov]

Whats the parallel between a small middle eastern country with robust economy surrounded by Massive Hostile Countries 80% of which don't even recognize it.
And a 200 million populous lower-middle income south Asian country having only one potential adversary that too a lower middle income country over a territorial dispute not an ideological one.
Except Molvis can draw any parallel by their superlative art of conspiracy analysis

 

[Gufi]

If Jinnah had a vision, he would not have created pakistan. He divided not just india but also the muslims of india. Indian constitution treats all citizens as equal which is not the case in Pakistan so you assume indian muslims are treated in india in the same way as you treat your minorities. If you think muslims are trapped in india then they would be migrating at the first opportunity but the fact is many muslims have migrated to india from Afghanistan to Bangladesh. As regards to third class citizen.... do you know who is the richest non-king muslim in the world??? He is an Indian and his name is Azim Premji. A third class ctizen???

@Armstrong U r needed here

 

[Zhukov]

And what Pakistan has been teaching their kids in schools? Akhand Bharat is history. No Indian dreams of hoisting tricolor on Minar-e-Pakistan but kids in Pakistan are sold the dreams of ghazwa-e-hind and hoisting pakistani flag on lal qila.

Pakistan would have died of heart attack if her threats were as large as India's and her defence budget was as low as India's.

Lady i suggest stop using afghan dope and read some real stuff. Nobody is taught Ghazwae Hind or pakistani flag over lal qila. That clown zaid hamid is a joke in Pakistan and Hardline parties like Jamat e Islami dont even win 5% of National assembly seats in elections..
Your side story is totally opposite, Your people have obsession with akhand bharat. Extremist rightist win elections in your country not ours.

Typical Indians, Twisted words, complex phrases to make out a meaning that does not exist in real world.

And BTW its also YOUR defence establishment that maintains just a Double size of our army at 7 times larher budget with no significant technological advancement to date. Just numerical superiority ranging to 2 times and max 3 times.

Get some life

 

[Kaniska]

And just to add up to this conversasation...No one is 2nd class in India....The classic example is the Indian memimiber who are both Hindu nationalist or Muslim people here...For example me...i might be a Hindu nationalist..but that does not make me any 1st class citizen of my India than Razia...rather both me like Hindu nationalist and Razia and all equal citizen of our Nation....We may have different of opintion but anything with respect to our nationalism still remains the same...the well being of my nation...

I see people of Pakistan are too much disturbed by the way Muslims are just treated badly in India..but they forget that Indian Hindus discriminate more towards the same Hindu people who are with other cast like SC ST people too....Discrimination is a part of Indian society..it has improved a lot...but that does not point to the fact, that who are discriminated have less right in INDIA than the other people..

Thankyou. One should always be loyal to his motherland.
No one in India has any hatred for pakistani muslims per se. Whatever antagonism is there its because of pakistan's complicity in the terror acts in India. We are a democratic country and no one is required to please anyone. "If non muslim indians criticise pakistan, you accept it but if muslim indians criticise pakistan then they are pleasing hindutva nationalists"... the fact is the criticism comes from an indian regardless of religion. Caste, communal and sectarian violence are not exclusive to India but the whole of south asia.what differentiates India is that its constitution gives equal rights to all her citizens regardless of religious beliefs. Since the promulgation of Indian constitution there has never been a situation where anyone's religious belief has come in the way of the nation. Our constitution is truely secular and has enough flexibility to accommodate diversity. I am free to practice my religion and if there is any obstruction, the state will ensure all such obstructions are removed. In a diverse society its natural to have differences of opinion and at times opinions clash and peace is disturbed but eventually everyone finds solace in judiciary and the constitution.
I always wonder why this question is asked that if nationalism clashes with islam what will you do? Its like asking a child who will he side with if in case his parents divorce.

Regarding your last sentence about the people who are not loyal to India, well.... what solution do you have for the people who are not loyal to pakistan? Many Jinnah supporters did stay back in India and so are many people in Pakistan who did not want Pakistan to be created but eventually became Pakistanis like Balochs and followers of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and many others.


India is not a Hindu Republic but a Secular nation. An indian will always be pro-indian. Even those muslims who supported Jinnah and did not migrate to pakistan, dont regret their decision of staying back in India.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If Jinnah had a vision, he would not have created pakistan. He divided not just india but also the muslims of india. Indian constitution treats all citizens as equal which is not the case in Pakistan so you assume indian muslims are treated in india in the same way as you treat your minorities. If you think muslims are trapped in india then they would be migrating at the first opportunity but the fact is many muslims have migrated to india from Afghanistan to Bangladesh. As regards to third class citizen.... do you know who is the richest non-king muslim in the world??? He is an Indian and his name is Azim Premji. A third class ctizen???

Sure.. Just hope you don't have Muzafarnagar etc etc.. Second grade citizen of india who has to bash Pak to prove to prove his/her own identity.

As for premji do ask him to get you guys out our ghettos or perhaps Atleast give employment or education to the largest yet the poorest community of india .

 

[PoKeMon]

Sure.. Just hope you don't have Muzafarnagar etc etc.. Second grade citizen of india who has to bash Pak to prove your loyality to your own country...

You mean to say Muzaffarnagar when 2 muslim goons kills a hindu brother of a girl who protested for the modesty of his sister?

If I remember correctly, all supposedly second grade left us to become first grade in 47. Those who were equals remained with us.

You are living a third class living standard as a muslim in india and are confused about your identity and yet here on online forums showing your loyalty to india.You look ready for ghar wapisi?

Looking at her education, do you feel she should be living in third class standard?

The fact that she is capable enough to counter fools with authority in itself a testimony of opportunities provided to her by secular India.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You mean to say Muzaffarnagar when 2 muslim goons kills a hindu brother of a girl who protested for the modesty of his sister?

If I remember correctly, all supposedly second grade left us to become first grade in 47. Those who were equals remained with us.

You mean to say Muzaffarnagar when 2 muslim goons kills a hindu brother of a girl who protested for the modesty of his sister?

If I remember correctly, all supposedly second grade left us to become first grade in 47. Those who were equals remained with us.

Enjoy:



http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a-harvest-of-horror-and-shame/article6342806.e

P.S: yeah we know indian muslims are rapists,love jihadis etx etx.

 

[PoKeMon]

Enjoy:



http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a-harvest-of-horror-and-shame/article6342806.e

P.S: yeah we know indian muslims are rapists,love jihadis etx etx.

Only if we want to prove ourselves land of 100% pure.

 

[syedali73]

Typical Indians, Twisted words, complex phrases to make out a meaning that does not exist in real world.

Firstly, name does not imply this poster is Muslim. Secondly, please do not ask them to read because history exposes them brutally. Quid-e-Azam and his colleagues struggled until the end not to part and used the concept of Pakistan only as a pressure tactic. The proposals made by the Cabinet mission of 1946 were accepted by Quid-e-Azam, but rejected by Mr. Nehru. The blame of the division of India thus goes to Mr. Nehru and not Quid-e-Azam. @Gufi

 

[Razia Sultana]

Lady i suggest stop using afghan dope and read some real stuff. Nobody is taught Ghazwae Hind or pakistani flag over lal qila. That clown zaid hamid is a joke in Pakistan and Hardline parties like Jamat e Islami dont even win 5% of National assembly seats in elections..
Your side story is totally opposite, Your people have obsession with akhand bharat. Extremist rightist win elections in your country not ours.

Typical Indians, Twisted words, complex phrases to make out a meaning that does not exist in real world.

And BTW its also YOUR defence establishment that maintains just a Double size of our army at 7 times larher budget with no significant technological advancement to date. Just numerical superiority ranging to 2 times and max 3 times.

Get some life

Gentleman then stop calling India a hindu nation. We are secular. Our Akhand Bharat starts from Kashmir and ends at Kanyakumari. We are only interested in the integrity of the land that we show in our map, nothing beyond.
If I am not wrong the present ruling party in Pakistan is "Muslim League".
It never occurred to me that Pak can manage the size of Indian army at less than 1/3rd of the cost india incurs!!!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Only if we want to prove ourselves land of 100% pure.

Great comeback picachu!

 

[PoKeMon]

Great comeback picachu!

Expecting sense from a desert fighter!!! My bad.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Expecting sense from a desert fighter!!! My bad.

Picachu your retarded comeback reply is not even remotely related to you moronic rants and my reply... Seems common sense isn't that common in india.

Gentleman then stop calling India a hindu nation. We are secular. Our Akhand Bharat starts from Kashmir and ends at Kanyakumari. We are only interested in the integrity of the land that we show in our map, nothing beyond.
If I am not wrong the present ruling party in Pakistan is "Muslim League".
It never occurred to me that Pak can manage the size of Indian army at less than 1/3rd of the cost india incurs!!!

Lady you don't even known that muslim league Nawaz has nothing to do with ML of the early 19ty century and here you have gal to question a great figure like JINNAH ?