Israel Air Force to Participate in U.S. Drill Alongside Pakistani, U.A.E. Jets

[shah1398]

I wouldnt mind few engagements between the two.

 

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[Windjammer]

@gambit , sir your thoughts please. F-35, F-22, Israel and Pakistan.....one hell of a combination.

 

[Paksanity]

What's wrong with doing a training exercise with Israel? Good thing to interact with them.

 

[Windjammer]

Damn, they seem to be all there this year.

Commander, 1 FW ‏@1fw_cc Jul 24
Always ready. 27 & 149 FS Airmen are sharpening their skills at #RedFlag #F22 #FF #WeAreAirpower

 

[barbarosa]

Please pray for paf not to become love affair with another daughter of USA, F35, because i am a poor father and i can't arrange mirrage with the rich woman's daughter, be care my son. hahahahahaha.

 

[Assault Rifle]

According to RED Flag 16-4 tentative flagsheet on reddit.com/r/aviation_ a private sub reddit run by military aviation enthusiasts including some USAF personnel; the Israeli and PAF contingents will be on separate team with different objectives; PAF and Spanish F-16s will be part of Escort team which will fly together with interdiction team of strike aircraft to provide cover to them.
Whereas Israeli F-16s will be part of the SEAD team.Situation on UAE is unclear.Last year Israeli F-15s formed part of Red Team Air.

This is not surprising at all as this can also be seen in the currently ongoing Russian Army Games 2016 where both India and Pakistan are participating but are in different exercises, India is participating in Tank and Sniper exercises whereas Pakistan is in MANPADs exercise.

 

[shah1398]

i don't think Pakistan will do joint exercise with the israelis, the news channel is trying to make the news sensational

It wud be interesting to see if the same news channels wud make the news sensational in case there are any active engagements between the two air forces ever in the future? They aint playing with each other but wud rather be trying hard to shoot down each other (the one who gets a red lock and pushes the button is the winner here). Has anyone got any objection to that?

 

[Windjammer]

According to RED Flag 16-4 tentative flagsheet on reddit.com/r/aviation_ a private sub reddit run by military aviation enthusiasts including some USAF personnel; the Israeli and PAF contingents will be on separate team with different objectives; PAF and Spanish F-16s will be part of Escort team which will fly together with interdiction team of strike aircraft to provide cover to them.
Whereas Israeli F-16s will be part of the SEAD team.Situation on UAE is unclear.Last year Israeli F-15s formed part of Red Team Air.

This is not surprising at all as this can also be seen in the currently ongoing Russian Army Games 2016 where both India and Pakistan are participating but are in different exercises, India is participating in Tank and Sniper exercises whereas Pakistan is in MANPADs exercise.

Wrong info, as @gambit pointed out earlier that where as Green Flag incorporates the ground strikes interdiction, Red Flag is purely air to air.

 

[Assault Rifle]

@Windjammer
Interdiction teams have been part of every recent red flag exercises.
http://www.dreamlandresort.com/info/flag_units.html#16-3

 

[rockstarIN]

Wrong info, as @gambit pointed out earlier that where as Green Flag incorporates the ground strikes interdiction, Red Flag is purely air to air.

Each Red Flag exercise normally involves a variety of fighter interdiction, attack/strike, air superiority, enemy air defense suppression, airlift, air refueling and reconnaissance missions

 

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Israel Air Force to Participate in U.S. Drill Alongside Pakistani, U.A.E. Jets
Israel sending land and air crews, as well as F-16 jets, to Red Flag air-to-air combat exercise at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada.

Gili Cohen Aug 03, 2016 8:36 AM

The Israel Air Force is set to take part in a large-scale aerial exercise in the United States later this month. According to...
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.734899

Good one for pak air force

What if pak jets go single handed dog fight wd Israelis
Pakistan have superiority over Israelis on Arab Israel war

 

[WaLeEdK2]

This should be fun @ The Sandman

Very excited to see the results.

 

[New Resolve]

Yeah im not so sure about that, anyway hope we win.

 

[IceCold]

Whats the point going against the likes of F-22 and F-35 when you wont even see them on your radar. I remember couple of years back there was a similar exercise somewhere in the middleeast and Americans did brought their F-22 while UAE had their most advanced F-16s and Pakistan was flying the F-7s. Both PAF and UAE were not able to spot F-22 and in all engagements the F-22 won.
So from a novice point of view how does it help gain any experience when you cant pickup on your radar and its always a one sided fight?
Another thing how come we never take JF-17 to such exercises. Shouldnt we pitch against the best the world has to offer and see where the shortcomings lie if any. @Windjammer