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Islamic State Fighters try to shoot down RAF Jets with Missiles.

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A Typhoon jet after refuelling from a RAF Voyager flying over Iraq CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY Ben Farmer, defence correspondent
23 SEPTEMBER 2016 • 10:00PM


A major offensive to liberate Islamic State’s last stronghold in Iraq will begin within weeks the Defence Secretary has said, as it was disclosed the militants have tried to shoot down RAF jets with surface-to-air missiles.

Tornado and Typhoon jets are carrying out the RAF’s most intensive strike campaign for more than 25 years as they launch scores of attacks to back Iraqi and Kurdish forces preparing to move into Iraq’s second city of Mosul.

British commanders have for the first time disclosed the risks of the air campaign as they admitted Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (Isil) fighters have repeatedly used missiles to try to bring down jets.

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Ground crew working on a Typhoon fighter bomber at RAF Akrotiri CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY


British pilots have used evasive manoeuvres, electronic defences and decoys to avoid ground fire including missiles and anti-aircraft artillery.

The militants, also known as Daesh, have launched “sporadic” attacks against RAF planes in the past 12 months.

Air Cdre Martin ‘Sammy’ Sampson, commander of the UK’s air war, said: “They try to shoot at our aeroplanes. When they do, they expose themselves and invariably when they expose themselves, we strike them.

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Air Cdre Martin 'Sammy' Sampson, UK air component commander for the war on Isil CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY


He went on: “There is always the possibility that the piece of air that you are flying through could be contested. It might be contested by a Daesh bullet or a Daesh missile.

“As the campaign changes they will try different tactics and certainly firing at coalition aircraft is a tactic which thus far has proved to be pretty fool hardy for those who are doing it.”
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A RAF Typhoon preparing for take off in Cyprus against ISIS targets in Iraq and Syria.CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY


Sunni militants used ageing shoulder-launched, anti-aircraft missiles against US forces throughout their occupation of Iraq. But Isil fighters and other rebel groups have since either looted or been given more sophisticated versions. Several Iraqi government and Syrian regime aircraft have been shot down.

Air Cdre Sampson said he could not recall a British aircraft being damaged by ground fire and “we've not had anything that's caused us any problems”.

RAF aircraft have carried out more than 400 strikes to help Iraqi and Kurdish troops manoeuvring on Mosul since June.
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RAF voyager refuelling tanker fleet and A RAF Tornado GR4 refuelling over Iraq CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY


Michael Fallon said: “There is no doubt now that Daesh is facing defeat. Indeed we are on the cusp of liberating the last major city it holds in Iraq – Mosul.”

The city of around 1 million residents was seized by Isil in June 2014 as the Iraqi army melted away in the face of the militants’ dash across the Syrian border.

An Iraqi army plan to encircle and cut off the estimated 3,000 remaining Isil fighters in the city is scheduled to begin next month.

This week the Telegraph joined a RAF Voyager refuelling tanker to accompany Typhoon and Tornado jets carrying out close air support sorties near Sharqat and north of Ramadi.

Pairs of aircraft from the 903 Expeditionary Air Wing based at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus fly armed reconnaissance missions day and night, circling above northern Iraq collecting intelligence or striking targets in sorties lasting six or seven hours.

“They are long old missions to be strapped to a single seat,” explained one Typhoon pilot who cannot be identified for security reasons.

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Iraqi forces are gathering in staging areas such as Qayara air base before the assault on Mosul CREDIT: SUSANNAH GEORGE/AP


They are not a comfy armchair up there. Toilet arrangements are possible, but challenging.”

As the jets patrol a 30 miles square ‘kill box’, every 90 minutes or so they climb to around 29,000ft to meet a Voyager refuelling tanker that accompanies them.

Pilots must guide their refuelling nozzles into a waiting basket-shaped drogue suspended at the end of 90 feet of hose, while both aircraft are travelling at around 480mph and buffeted by turbulence.

Once connected, the jets take on thousands of kilograms of aviation fuel, which allows them to continue their mission.

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The crew of a Tornado GR4 aircraft at RAF Akrotiri, Cyprus. CREDIT: HEATHCLIFF O'MALLEY

While their aircraft stock up on fuel, the pilots keep going on sandwiches, soft drinks and chocolate bars.

Another Typhoon pilot explained: “Yesterday I was halfway through eating a sandwich when we got called in to do a second strike, so with a mouthful of beef and pickle sandwich I was trying to get on the radio.”

Last month the RAF announced it had carried out more than 1,500 strikes since the air war against Isil began in Iraq since September 2014.

One Tornado navigator, who earlier this week helped destroy a truck bomb being ferried by barge across the Tigris, said: “You never forget the sense of danger that is involved, both for you and more importantly for those on the ground. We are there to support the Iraqi security forces and they are the ones who are down in the fight.

“When a target gets hit and you know that that vehicle could have potentially been driven into a town, or anywhere where there are civilians or friendly forces, and exploded, and therefore we have denied that to the enemy, then that’s a satisfying feeling.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ers-try-to-shoot-down-raf-jets-with-missiles/
 
They managed to hit a grand total of zero. :-)

God speed to our pilots, remember the Battle of Britain spirit.
 
They managed to hit a grand total of zero. :-)

God speed to our pilots, remember the Battle of Britain spirit.

Yes, it's also helps that we use drones alot for surveillance nd reconnaissance missions(and also for strikes). In fact it is believed that almost 30% of our airstrikes in Syria and Iraq is carried out by drones. The rest is by typhoons and tornados. The drones are based in Kuwait where RAF personnel operate them
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Reaper drones at Kuwait’s Ali Al Salem air base in January 2015.
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Sentinel spy planes are also crucial in these missions as they provide valuable information to our pilots
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Finally SAS on the ground always providing training/advice to local forces and a supporting role in calling on RAF airstrikes positioning and tackling these extremists when needed. :).
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Reason our missions have so far caused little to no civilians deaths in Iraq and Syria. :)
 
Islamic State Fighters try to shoot down RAF Jets with Missiles.


Sunni militants used ageing shoulder-launched, anti-aircraft missiles against US forces throughout their occupation of Iraq. But Isil fighters and other rebel groups have since either looted or been given more sophisticated versions. Several Iraqi government and Syrian regime aircraft have been shot down.

Oh no, not MANPADS..... (I do believe both Tornado and Typhoon were designed to be flying in high threat settings, facing more serious stuff than MANPADS)

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http://defence-blog.com/news/isis-shows-the-use-of-manpads-in-targeting-airplanes-in-fallujah.html
Like so .... (lol)

The most commonly used MANPAD in Syria is the Chinese-developed FN-6,
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ew-missile-race-in-syria-would-help-isis.html

Another is the North Korean HT-16PGJ MANPADS
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/05/10/draft-1/
http://spioenkop.blogspot.nl/2016/03/north-korean-ht-16pgj-manpads-in-syria.html
 
Oh no, not MANPADS..... (I do believe both Tornado and Typhoon were designed to be flying in high threat settings, facing more serious stuff than MANPADS)

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http://defence-blog.com/news/isis-shows-the-use-of-manpads-in-targeting-airplanes-in-fallujah.html
Like so .... (lol)

The most commonly used MANPAD in Syria is the Chinese-developed FN-6,
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ew-missile-race-in-syria-would-help-isis.html

Another is the North Korean HT-16PGJ MANPADS
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2016/05/10/draft-1/
http://spioenkop.blogspot.nl/2016/03/north-korean-ht-16pgj-manpads-in-syria.html
Lol North Korea also build good manpads? Never knew that. I guess the HT-16 must be a Soviet or Chinese reverse engineered equipment though. Or I'm I wrong?
 
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SA-16 Gimlet 9K310 Igla-1
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/russ...nical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html

sipri

Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1980 to 2015

From Russia

Ordered 1976, delivered 1978-1991: Strela-2/SA-7 (4000)
More produced under Russian licence after break-up of Soviet Union; North Korean designation Hwasongchong; possibly illegally copied from Strela-2 from Egypt

Ordered 1985, delivered 1992-03: Strela-2/SA-7 (500)
Ordered from Soviet Union and produced under Russian licence after break-up of Soviet Union; North Korean designation Hwasongchong; possibly illegally copied from Strela-2 from Egypt

In 2003 the unit cost was approximately US$60,000–80,000.
Igla-1E (SA-16): Current operators include North Korea: Locally produced
Igla (SA-18): Current operators include North Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla#Operators
 
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HT-16PGJ
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SA-16 Gimlet 9K310 Igla-1
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http://www.armyrecognition.com/russ...nical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html

sipri

Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1980 to 2015

From Russia

Ordered 1976, delivered 1978-1991: Strela-2/SA-7 (4000)
More produced under Russian licence after break-up of Soviet Union; North Korean designation Hwasongchong; possibly illegally copied from Strela-2 from Egypt

Ordered 1985, delivered 1992-03: Strela-2/SA-7 (500)
Ordered from Soviet Union and produced under Russian licence after break-up of Soviet Union; North Korean designation Hwasongchong; possibly illegally copied from Strela-2 from Egypt

In 2003 the unit cost was approximately US$60,000–80,000.
Igla-1E (SA-16): Current operators include North Korea: Locally produced
Igla (SA-18): Current operators include North Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla#Operators

I thought so. No surprise there
 
what is the UK's progress on the strike missions?
 
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