Islamabad in a fix over joining US-led coalition

[xyxmt]

why doesnt US ask their regional power friend in south Asia and also their old and time tested allies.

 

[ThaniOruvan]

you are supper sonically mistaken my friend.are you looking what I am lucking. the line goes from pakistan to china and Russian. and second most important thing. muslim factor will play key role so keep in mind how many you have in india. just think if they been try to used by muslim factor wot will happen to india. as I heard yesterday they is mini pakistan in hayrabad. are you getting my point. it is my kind advice to my indian friends plz, do live and let live. what I am seeing, there are things going to happen with which will make indian in pieces.thanks for modi's policy againt pakistan which brought pakistan back in wolrd business

Muslim factor won't play anything as you are dreaming.
What is happening between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the middle-east is a perfect example.
India does have muslims. So What ? Don't be naive, you are a new recruit so spend some time with the threads before you start asserting something.
"Live and let live". This statement from Pakistan is comforting. But I seldom hear it from you guys.

 

[Mabs]

US must be offering something in return....i wonder what.

Whatever they are offering isn't worth it. US doesn't give two shits about any thing other than its own interest which is good for the US but bad for its partners. As soon as it achieves its strategic objectives, it exits the theater, leaving everyone else behind to bear the brunt.

It uses the equipment it provides as an instrument of its foreign policy and leaves you high and dry when you need it the most. It's happened time and again and it's not about to stop now. The US will use Pakistan again and leave us to deal with the backlash of its myopic policies.

It's high time we learned this lesson and treat US as it treats us. We are booty call for each other, casual encounters every now and then suits us fine, we aren't cut out to live happily ever after. Pak should only enter any partnership if it strictly aligns with our interests. What US wants or thinks is its concern, not Pak's

 

[Hurter]

It's time for U.S and NATO to do more (In a Positive way) and let us relax now. We have given enough (Islam's image, our lives, economy, Pakistan's image) for the war which wasn't even ours. Enough.

 

[Paksanity]

Waiting and watching is exactly why Pakistan's security situation deteriorated. I say that it should join now, before the situation is allowed to get worse.

[edit]: It seems I'm alone in my opinion. Feel free to try and convince me other wise. I'm open to new, well thought out arguments and opinions.

I agree with you. We should join but with carefully set preconditions. Scope of assistance / involvement must be clearly identified along with a clear exit strategy. West will have to address our concerns on strategic, economic and military issues in return. Footprint of Pakistan involvement must be kept to bare minimum and timeline must be agreed upon.

Sooner or later this menace will come to us and interests will be threatened e.g. CPEC. I don't foresee Afghanistan being stabilised any time soon thus creating favourable conditions for ISIS to grow.

 

[Neutron]

A Big NO

Thank you US........ we are busy in our own home

 

[Cash GK]

Muslim factor won't play anything as you are dreaming.
What is happening between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the middle-east is a perfect example.
India does have muslims. So What ? Don't be naive, you are a new recruit so spend some time with the threads before you start asserting something.
"Live and let live". This statement from Pakistan is comforting. But I seldom hear it from you guys.

you are wrong I have been reading this since the birth of this web I fink you may need good standers to reach my observations.no offense lets come to the point. if you are a muslim then you might know as I feel you not a muslim. so you will never understand the bound between muslims. dont worry abt Afghan we know how.to.deal.with them.they are sucking your money.they known for this and we know.what is.needed to.fix the problems in afgh with out spanding money.you indian try what ever you can. it is better to spand that money fix your problems in your country. afgh is our backyard. and we are fully aware of what is going on there.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

IS deserves to die ...

 

[Cash GK]

Muslim factor won't play anything as you are dreaming.
What is happening between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the middle-east is a perfect example.
India does have muslims. So What ? Don't be naive, you are a new recruit so spend some time with the threads before you start asserting something.
"Live and let live". This statement from Pakistan is comforting. But I seldom hear it from you guys.

as my last 13 years experence in 17 countries and working with some muslim nations. we know what assists we have there and around the world you are so week to get throw them or need hell money to dispatch them. let the time come you will know what pakistan have in his arms.this is not 70z pakistan it is 2015. we are in blace position to dictate out terms. advice to every one do live and let live. war never benefit anyone.it kills week and provide power to rich.

 

[Raje amar]

Sooner or later Pakistan will join this war.
Its in Paks favor.

If it refuses and IF India joins the war Pakistan will loose its infulence on US and SA. Which in turn will affect the free funding from both the countrys. Bad for Pakistan.

Keeping all this in mind I feel Pakistan will join the war..

 

[ThaniOruvan]

you are wrong I have been reading this since the birth of this web I fink you may need good standers to reach my observations.no offense lets come to the point. if you are a muslim then you might know as I feel you not a muslim. so you will never understand the bound between muslims. dont worry abt Afghan we know how.to.deal.with them.they are sucking your money.they known for this and we know.what is.needed to.fix the problems in afgh with out spanding money.you indian try what ever you can. it is better to spand that money fix your problems in your country. afgh is our backyard. and we are fully aware of what is going on there.

I know about that bond but Afghanistan and you don't share it. Sorry, For sure....Afghanistan sees you as the estranged brother trying to destabilize it and wanting it to dance to your tunes which they don't encourage. They are a separate country .Not your backyard. This idiosyncratic thought led to strained relations.
I am pretty much sure of that based upon the current affairs.
Grow up. International politics is much more than muslim-to-muslim bonds which you pathetically believe.

as my last 13 years experence in 17 countries and working with some muslim nations. we know what assists we have there and around the world you are so week to get throw them or need hell money to dispatch them. let the time come you will know what pakistan have in his arms.this is not 70z pakistan it is 2015. we are in blace position to dictate out terms. advice to every one do live and let live. war never benefit anyone.it kills week and provide power to rich.

If you are saying this from your experience then I don't pay respect to it.
Because what you have experienced is illusions. Pathetic !
You guys are still in the 70s. Accept it. This is a modern world and the guy who is willing to spend is the king. Muslim-Muslim bhai-bhai is a faux in the present world.
Can Pakistan spend that much to win over alliances ? Strict no.

 

[Cash GK]

I know about that bond but Afghanistan and you don't share it. Sorry, For sure....Afghanistan sees you as the estranged brother trying to destabilize it and wanting it to dance to your tunes which they don't encourage. They are a separate country .Not your backyard. This idiosyncratic thought led to strained relations.
I am pretty much sure of that based upon the current affairs.
Grow up. International politics is much more than muslim-to-muslim bonds which you pathetically believe.



If you are saying this from your experience then I don't pay respect to it.
Because what you have experienced is illusions. Pathetic !
You guys are still in the 70s. Accept it. This is a modern world and the guy who is willing to spend is the king. Muslim-Muslim bhai-bhai is a faux in the present world.
Can Pakistan spend that much to win over alliances ? Strict no.

I can feel your pain.this bhai bhai relation thing has started 1400 years ago not some 30or 40 years ago. you can not feel it. since you belong to the nation which was invaded in every 100 years and never accros its boder last 5000 years. I can feel your mindset croect me if I am wrong.I am Afghan and by birth I am pakistani.I love pakistan it was always there to help us.we know what you guys are doing in Afghanistan

 

[544_delta]

hey let India do it this time

 

[Shamain]

We fought talibans with usa and the menace hit our country that we are still cleaning the filth. U join usa in isis fight then watch how conviniently usa is going to bring isis in our country too much like ttp.

 

[Cash GK]

low about that bond but Afghanistan and you don't share it. Sorry, For sure....Afghanistan sees you as the estranged brother trying to destabilize it and wanting it to dance to your tunes which they don't encourage. They are a separate country .Not your backyard. This idiosyncratic thought led to strained relations.
I am pretty much sure of that based upon the current affairs.
Grow up. International politics is much more than muslim-to-muslim bonds which you pathetically believe.



If you are saying this from your experience then I don't pay respect to it.
Because what you have experienced is illusions. Pathetic !
You guys are still in the 70s. Accept it. This is a modern world and the guy who is willing to spend is the king. Muslim-Muslim bhai-bhai is a faux in the present world.
Can Pakistan spend that much to win over alliances ? Strict no.

it is not abt passt it still today we have it it will there until last muslim stands.it just requried smal whisper not bucket ful of water.

I know about that bond but Afghanistan and you don't share it. Sorry, For sure....Afghanistan sees you as the estranged brother trying to destabilize it and wanting it to dance to your tunes which they don't encourage. They are a separate country .Not your backyard. This idiosyncratic thought led to strained relations.
I am pretty much sure of that based upon the current affairs.
Grow up. International politics is much more than muslim-to-muslim bonds which you pathetically believe.



If you are saying this from your experience then I don't pay respect to it.
Because what you have experienced is illusions. Pathetic !
You guys are still in the 70s. Accept it. This is a modern world and the guy who is willing to spend is the king. Muslim-Muslim bhai-bhai is a faux in the present world.
Can Pakistan spend that much to win over alliances ? Strict no.

before you comment on my writing you need to read your history. how many times you been invaded.even you used to have hel money and lost of man power and still you been defeated and invaded hunder times. you can not manufacture lion. it is some thing comes with blood.we are to here to stay. history will say after British retreat from subcontinent, muslim accoped two parts of india. so make your fect right