Islam set to be worlds largest religion

[doppelganger]

India can hardly make a move without the Americans' clearence. The only two countries which are completely free from American orders are Russia and China ONLY.

Sure if you say so. Meanwhile we will continue foloowing our independent path, bucking the US and splitting countries when it suits us to.

And right, I'm debating with a Hindu nationalist, someone who doesn't consider minorities as Indians. What do you say to the thousands of Sikhs, Muslims and Christians who've gave their life fighting for India? You make me sick.

They are all Hindus as well. And our brothers for millenia. Same blood, same soil, same past, same present, same future. Why should that make you sick (assuming I care)?

"With one of the most power militaries in the world" If you consider 6th/7th most powerful then okay. Largest economy doesn't mean shit whn you have 1.2B people. Diaspora I agree with, but are they really Indian? They have American/Canadian nationalities, most now are born their and never been to India.

I see. Can you name the 5-6 nations whose militaries are more powerful than India's?

 

[Hashshāshīn]

They are all Hindus as well. And our brothers for millenia. Same blood, same soil, same past, same present, same future. Why should that make you sick (assuming I care)?



I see. Can you name the 5-6 nations whose militaries are more powerful than India's?

So Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are your brothers too?

US, Russia, China, UK, France, Germany.

Anyway, single military strength doesn't mean anything. It's all about alliances. India does not have any alliance as powerful as NATO, so technically all NATO countries are stronger than India/Russia/China.

 

[doppelganger]

So Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are your brothers too?

Of course. Who can argue that?

US, Russia, China, UK, France, Germany.

Anyway, single military strength doesn't mean anything. It's all about alliances. India does not have any alliance as powerful as NATO, so technically all NATO countries are stronger than India/Russia/China.

I'll conceded the obvious 3 and France (expeditionary force, power projection, working nuclear subs).

UK with their cutbacks meaning they cannot hold the Falklands against Argentina? Please .....

Germany is not a nuclear country. Nor does it have the naval resources. I would put Japan in your list as well, with a much more competent navy, which gives them the edge.

 

[haviZsultan]

How do we know its not already happened.

 

[anonymus]

Sure if you say so. Meanwhile we will continue foloowing our independent path, bucking the US and splitting countries when it suits us to.



They are all Hindus as well. And our brothers for millenia. Same blood, same soil, same past, same present, same future. Why should that make you sick (assuming I care)?



I see. Can you name the 5-6 nations whose militaries are more powerful than India's?

You would be interested in discussion going on in this thread.

Hindu temple vandalised in US, symbols of devil worship spray-painted | Page 4

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Of course. Who can argue that?



I'll conceded the obvious 3 and France (expeditionary force, power projection, working nuclear subs).

UK with their cutbacks meaning they cannot hold the Falklands against Argentina? Please .....

Germany is not a nuclear country. Nor does it have the naval resources. I would put Japan in your list as well, with a much more competent navy, which gives them the edge.

Haha the Argentinians can only dream of taking on the UK. They got their *** handed to them last time they tried.

Germany was the first nuclear country in the world. You think Germans can't make nukes? they're still being held under by treaties from WW2, when that expires watch how they grow into a giant. Never underestimate them, they went from completely broke to superpower in 10 years.

 

[Pardesi]

 

[doppelganger]

Haha the Argentinians can only dream of taking on the UK. They got their *** handed to them last time they tried.

I'm sorry but your patently out of touch with reality. The situation between Thatcher's UK and the UK of today is very different. Surely you do not live in a cocoon to have missed the fact that without the US backing, UK has all but conceded that they can no longer protect the Falklands? The UK punches far above their weight riding piggyback on their former colony. Period.

Germany was the first nuclear country in the world. You think Germans can't make nukes? they're still being held under by treaties from WW2, when that expires watch how they grow into a giant. Never underestimate them, they went from completely broke to superpower in 10 years.

There are more than a dozen countries around the world that can do the same? Canada and South Afica come to mind. As does Australia. What is your point? Are we playing crystal ball fairytales here or present day reality?

Btw, I do not see flags. Which country to you belong to? I'm guessing a middle eastern muslim one. Probably arab.

 

[Tiger Genie]

You have stone idols, nothing more

Indias GDP was at its highest under Mughal rule

That's an idiotic statement - you just assigned religion to God and admitted there are many. It must then be true that Hindu Gods are tricky smart and made even you a muslim admit !

India can hardly make a move without the Americans' clearence. The only two countries which are completely free from American orders are Russia and China ONLY.

And right, I'm debating with a Hindu nationalist, someone who doesn't consider minorities as Indians. What do you say to the thousands of Sikhs, Muslims and Christians who've gave their life fighting for India? You make me sick.

"With one of the most power militaries in the world" If you consider 6th/7th most powerful then okay. Largest economy doesn't mean shit whn you have 1.2B people. Diaspora I agree with, but are they really Indian? They have American/Canadian nationalities, most now are born their and never been to India.

Since when can China make independent moves? China shakes in its boots everytime the walmart board meets. Chinese execs bring extra shirts to change between audit sessions whenever the US regulator or corporate inspector shows up. How do I know? Because I have seen them do that. BTW nothing wrong with that - I want my suppliers to behave.
But that's all they are - my cheap suppliers. If they don't behave I throw them out and develop a second and a third source.Why do you think there are dozens of ghost cities, shell banks that financed them and local governments that underwrote them across China? They are all shaking in their pants thinking about the day the truth comes out and they have to execute the $6T write down (source Global Daily!).

Russia ....may be. but their 'indepence' from US has meant pariah status, an economy that has crashed through the sink hole and left them with a very poor income stream. Look up inflation rates in Russia, Reminds you of the worst days of venezuela!

India on the other hand has either by bumbling or intentionally worked themselves into an admirable postion of win win win. Their economy is said to be the fastest growing in the world atleast for the next 2 years, their leader is serenaded by every developed nation, their people are celebrated for democratic writ (in spite of major cultural dings taken for rape stories), they have very successfully deflected the jihadi terroism in Kashmir across from Pakistan...For Godssake they have even started buying up iconic companies such as Jaguar and Land Rover, sending Mars missions, competing for EuroSat launches (which btw is driving Elon Musk crazy!); they have the walmarts of the world camping at door steps to let them in...Every F200 company wants to own more than the 29% stake they are allowed in regulated sector, the population is young and robust thus able to support the retiree needs...

Sounds like independent to me.

BTW I find it very hard to believe the premise of this story about Islaam become largest religion ...the large family and profligate procreation may be I can understand but I don't buy this people converting in numbers stuff. Given the kind of black face it has taken due to the jihadi violence in the past 15 years why would anyone convert? In the US I see a few African Amaerican muslims 'talk' Islam but most of them just keep the names amd would rather forget the whole thing.

Where are the conversions happening?

 

[AUz]

All bullsh!t pipedreams.

Unless Islamic World aggressively starts an organized and massive dawah campaign in throughout subsaharan Africa and rural China, and develop fool proof mechanisms to completely eradicate Christian missionary activity in Islamic lands, Islam is going nowhere.

These "predictions" make Muslims "relaxed" while Christians even more aggressive in their missionary work.

Reality is that Christianity is largest faith and gets many more converts than Islam.

Even THIS very report says it: New converts to Christianity is estimated, by this report, to be 40 million.

For Islam, its 9 million...

And LOL at poor indians try to write their "mental masturbation" about so called "power of hindus" ....LMAO!!!

hindus for the majority are an impoverished, backward people that never created any multiregional civilization, let alone establishing transcontinental global civilizations that powerful Islamic and Western World established throughout history.

Today, U.S is hegemon of the world and all countries to some extent are under the pin of U.S power...

 

[Tiger Genie]

All bullsh!t pipedreams.

Unless Islamic World aggressively starts an organized and massive dawah campaign in throughout subsaharan Africa and rural China, and develop fool proof mechanisms to completely eradicate Christian missionary activity in Islamic lands, Islam is going nowhere.

These "predictions" make Muslims "relaxed" while Christians even more aggressive in their missionary work.

Reality is that Christianity is largest faith and gets many more converts than Islam.

Even THIS very report says it: New converts to Christianity is estimated, by this report, to be 40 million.

For Islam, its 9 million...

And LOL at poor indians try to write their "mental masturbation" about so called "power of hindus" ....LMAO!!!

hindus for the majority are an impoverished, backward people that never created any multiregional civilization, let alone establishing transcontinental global civilizations that powerful Islamic and Western World established throughout history.

Today, U.S is hegemon of the world and all countries to some extent are under the pin of U.S power...

that last part about hindus is hardly true. the forefathers of a majority of pakistani muslims were hindus assuming you'd call pakistan a separate region, as one would afghanistan and bangladesk. you may also read up history of your hindu ancestors creating flourishing empires in much of south easy asia (indonesia, cambodia, thailand etc) which is why the largest hindu temple in the world is Angkorvat.

 

[HariPrasad]

Muslims to outnumber Christians worldwide by 2070 Islam will be only major religion to increase faster than worlds population | Daily Mail Online

There was an another study which stated that Islam shall vanish from Middle east and Indonesia shall be the biggest Muslim population world wide. Islam shall shrink and remained confined to Some pockets of Asia like Inoanesia and India

 

[AUz]

that last part about hindus is hardly true. the forefathers of a majority of pakistani muslims were hindus assuming you'd call pakistan a separate region, as one would afghanistan and bangladesk. you may also read up history of your hindu ancestors creating flourishing empires in much of south easy asia (indonesia, cambodia, thailand etc) which is why the largest hindu temple in the world is Angkorvat.

Don't give me fluff buddy. I keep it real whether its Islam or Hindu or whatever (look at my post above, I'm not fangirling for Islam either. I believe the idea that Islam will be the largest religion is pure fantasy and Christians massively outsmart/outclass Muslims in conversions).

The idea that "hindus" somehow are more "powerful" than Muslims is just absolute horse-sh!t. I mean, whats the point of mental masturbation and talking about non-existent hindu power.

It is an accepted fact by historians/scholars that no civilization has rivaled Islam and West in terms of global spread, influence, and raw power. None. Zero.

As Bernard Lewis (one of the most influential historians of our time. Now in in his 80's..google him) puts it,

There have been only two global civilizations humans have ever established,

1- Islamic World
2- Christian West.

Hindus never had a transnational, multicontinental global civilization. Never.

Having some influence/presence in Indonesia/Thailand isn't same as establishing global civilization.

No need to live in fantasies.

There was an another study which stated that Islam shall vanish from Middle east and Indonesia shall be the biggest Muslim population world wide. Islam shall shrink and remained confined to Some pockets of Asia like Inoanesia and India

Same mythical study also stated that liens will adapt hindusim as their religion. Correct?

 

[Tiger Genie]

Don't give me fluff buddy. I keep it real whether its Islam or Hindu or whatever (look at my post above, I'm not fangirling for Islam either. I believe the idea that Islam will be the largest religion is pure fantasy and Christians massively outsmart/outclass Muslims in conversions).

The idea that "hindus" somehow are more "powerful" than Muslims is just absolute horse-sh!t. I mean, whats the point of mental masturbation and talking about non-existent hindu power.

It is an accepted fact by historians/scholars that no civilization has rivaled Islam and West in terms of global spread, influence, and raw power. None. Zero.

As Bernard Lewis (one of the most influential historians of our time. Now in in his 80's..google him) puts it,

There have been only two global civilizations humans have ever established,

1- Islamic World
2- Christian West.

Hindus never had a transnational, multicontinental global civilization. Never.

Having some influence/presence in Indonesia/Thailand isn't same as establishing global civilization.

No need to live in fantasies.



Same mythical study also stated that liens will adapt hindusim as their religion. Correct?

@AUz if you wish to close your eyes to concrete real facts staring at you, do I care? Wanton foolishness such as yours is even sillier. Knock yourself out with wishful dreams.

I just told you about the Hindu empire spanning South East Asia. Anybody with slightly more iq than a donkey can google AngkoorVat and learn if your school didn't teach you about your own ancestors. Instead you deny yourself your own cultural history and in praise of middle eastern masters (both Islam and Christianity came from there). I cannot change your slave mentality for you but hopefully you will try to inform yourself.

 

[AUz]

@AUz if you wish to close your eyes to concrete real facts staring at you, do I care? Wanton foolishness such as yours is even sillier. Knock yourself out with wishful dreams.

I just told you about the Hindu empire spanning South East Asia. Anybody with slightly more iq than a donkey can google AngkoorVat and learn if your school didn't teach you about your own ancestors. Instead you deny yourself your own cultural history and in praise of middle eastern masters (both Islam and Christianity came from there). I cannot change your slave mentality for you but hopefully you will try to inform yourself.

You little idiot, nobody is talking about my ancestors here. What I am talking about is the fact that historically, Hindus have been weak people with no significant influence in shaping humanity.

Yeah, your irrelevant empires existed in parts of India and had some influence on Indonesia--a country that is now 87% Muslim!! lol..You retards were jumping up and down regarding so called "hindu power"..As soon as I turn up with facts, your mouth go silent and you start talking about ancestors and what not lol..

Fact remains that Muslims have been far, far, farrrrrrr more powerful and influential than Hindus. And even today, Islamic World---as an aggregate--is far more powerful than irrelevant "hindus" who are concentrated in one country without any global presence.

As I said, and Bernard Lewis also said, there have been only two global civilizations of human race. The most influential, most powerful, having most impact on the shaping of cultures across the globe. And these two civilizations are Islamic Civilization And Christian-Western one.

Hindus are an irrelevant people in global context. You never had a massive civilization spanning across continents. Never. Having one empire doesn't mean "civilization". Mongols also had a great empire, but do you see any "mongolian civilization" out there? lmao.

Go to sleep kiddo, and take @doppelganger with you so you can dream of "hindu power" in your dreams. Because in reality, hindus are a people without relevance or global influence/presence.