“Islam has no place in Slovakia." Slovakian PM Fico

[hussain0216]

What is a Slovakia?

Country in middle of Europe.

But whose example we need to follow

We need to assert our identity follow their example and start refusing space for Christians and churches

We have a million or so Christians in our country in some places like Egypt they have 10

 

[waz]

As for the post their country their rule. However I will say this, they need to take back many of the undesirables who have come here on EU passports.

Racist country in middle of Europe full of trash

But trash whose example we need to follow

We need to assert our identity follow their example and start refusing space for Christians and churches

We have a million or so Christians in our country in some places like Egypt they have 10

The Pakistani Christians who number around 3-5 million are ethnic Pakistanis, many sharing the same surnames as their Muslim counterparts. Their community has produced war heroes galore for Pakistan, are you advocating that you take this out on them?

 

[hussain0216]

What? Brexit would have been termed landslide had it been a general election. 70% of the population voted, and of that Brexit took 17.4 million votes, compared to 16.1 million for remain, that's a clear comfortable win on the popular vote. As for the number of constituencies Brexit won 424 out of the 571 available.

Overall the Leave campaign came top in nine of the UK's nations and regions, with the Remain campaign coming top in just three. The West Midlands had the highest vote share for Leave, with Scotland highest for Remain.

263 voting areas voting to "Leave the European Union" to 119 voting areas who voted to "Remain a member of the European Union".

It wasn't close, not by any measure. If you count in all the expats who voted remain, Irish, Cypriot etc remain voters the results are even more in favour for Brexit.

In terms of people 48% wanted to remain

Whats happend with brexit and some of the rightwing movement's is the Lenin problem

Having the revolution but not really having a plan for the aftermath

Not having a real plan is glaringly obvious and the current hope of gaining all the benefits with none of the drawbacks i.e Having your cake and eating it too is painfully delusional

If the lurch to the right across Europe continues with a new breed of populist politicians and parties who have simplistic plans then their will be chaos

The half of society who wanted to remain will feel vindicated even if brexit was arguably the correct thibg to do

The same with places across Europe
Italy especially looks like heading into the volcano

As for the post their country their rule. However I will say this, they need to take back many of the undesirables who have come here on EU passports.



The Pakistani Christians who number around 3-5 million are ethnic Pakistanis, many sharing the same surnames as their Muslim counterparts. Their community has produced war heroes galore for Pakistan, are you advocating that you take this out on them?

Sure why not, they are a different to the majority arent they?

We cant take heat from countries already heading down that path

Look im not advocating it, I think its a bad thing to do millions of Christians exist on Muslim world but if Muslims are to suffer in Europe we should at least think about returning the favor

 

[waz]

In terms of people 48% wanted to remain

Whats happend with brexit and some of the rightwing movement's is the Lenin problem

Having the revolution but not really having a plan for the aftermath

Not having a real plan is glaringly obvious and the current hope of gaining all the benefits with none of the drawbacks i.e Having your cake and eating it too is painfully delusional

If the lurch to the right across Europe continues with a new breed of populist politicians and parties who have simplistic plans then their will be chaos

The half of society who wanted to remain will feel vindicated even if brexit was arguably the correct thibg to do

The same with places across Europe
Italy especially looks like heading into the volcano

The people were just confined to the metropolitan areas i.e. those 48% and yet they still lost the popular vote, which is a joke. It wasn't close.
The plan? That was the government's job, but the government of David Cameron was on the remain side. Why would they have drawn up a plan for Brexit? May has to start from scratch.
We'll do what is in our interest, delusional or not, more jobs depend on the single market in the EU than they do here. The UK's reach is far and wide.
The less than half of society, having spoken to many are glad things have turned out they way they have as they see what is going on in Europe. Time to march on.

 

[axp9p3tn]

Racist country in middle of Europe full of trash.

This was entirely not called for.

But trash whose example we need to follow.

No one asks you to follow our example. We respect that your country is yours and ask you to respect our is ours.

But if you were to follow our "example" than please be aware that there is no law forbidding the practice of *any* religion in Slovakia under the sole condition that it does not entice hatred to others. If all countries of the world took heed of that rule, I believe the radical factions in each relifgion would havea much tougher life than now. For the benefit of everyone else.
(I really do hate to consider ourselves an "example" as it smells of the "we are better than you" crap, but making an exception here.)

We have a million or so Christians in our country in some places like Egypt they have 10

Firstly, there are 2000 muslims in Slovakia, give or take. Almost all came as honored guests in the last few decades.

This is not really comparable to countries which were originally christian but then slowly moved to Islam. There it is natural to have relatively big communities which already have their (often very old) places of worship.

However if you spoke of *newly arriving* non-muslims asking for you to adapt your laws to them, I would have to dully support you in not accepting that.

Look im not advocating it, I think its a bad thing to do millions of Christians exist on Muslim world but if Muslims are to suffer in Europe we should at least think about returning the favor

Can you please refer me one instance of a muslim suffering in Slovakia by the hand of the state you are protesting against and insulting a whole country for?
And sorry, not being able to have Sharia over-rule the state law does not qualify as suffering.

 

[waz]

Sure why not, they are a different to the majority arent they?

We cant take heat from countries already heading down that path

Look im not advocating it, I think its a bad thing to do millions of Christians exist on Muslim world but if Muslims are to suffer in Europe we should at least think about returning the favor

Faith is just one aspect. How can you punish a people who are indigenous to the country, as much as any Muslim is. The Hindu Rastra crowd says the same thing about the Muslims of Pakistan i..e bomb and kill them, that's not the original religion of of the natives.
The only favour that should be returned is thanks.
Have you forgotten these men?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Look im not advocating it, I think its a bad thing to do millions of Christians exist on Muslim world but if Muslims are to suffer in Europe we should at least think about returning the favor

Idiotic post!!! The Slovaks are not against Muslims. They are against non white migrants. If all Muslims were like these Bosnians then they would have no issues.

In fact they would refuse to accept the Christian Pakistani's on some pretext or another and prefer the Bosnian Muslims. It is time people realized that this Muslim this is 9 portion racism and 1 portion religion. And if you killed all the Christians in Pakistan the Slovaks would not bat a eyelid but touch one European and all hell would break out.

 

[jamal18]

Then Pakistan govt can threaten slovakia, you are a fort of Islam and thakedars you should prove that to Slovakia.

Thanks for the advice. In future, look at what I say and not what you think I said.

Any more sarcasm and I will reply in kind.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I saw a video on youtube of couple of guy's driving Ford Transits overland from UK to Pakistan back in early 1990s soon after the demise of the Soviet Union and lifting of the Iron Curtain. Two of the drivers were Pakistani Muslims and one was Afro-Caribean. The intersting thing was first how as they drove Eastern Europe how the roads, general living conditions dropped. It was clear these countries were lagging behing Western Europe.

But another interesting observation was how the Eastern Europeans reacted to these three strangers. While there was not so much of a issue for the Pakistani's but the Afro-Caribean who was Christian got the brunt end in Hungary. At one stop they all began looking at him and laughing and calling him names. The fact that he was Christian made no cut no ice with them. The two Muslim's (Pakistani's) recieved better treatment.

This is something people need to keep in mind. Many of the countries have had limited exposure to the world and can be xenophobic but that is also applicable in Pakistan in some remote areas.

 

[Mo12]

his country his decisions.

 

[waz]

You damned idiot. The Slovaks are not against Muslims. They are against non white migrants. If all Muslims were like these Bosnians then they would have no issues.

In fact they would refuse to accept the Christian Pakistani's on some pretext or another and prefer the Bosnian Muslims. It is time people realized that this Muslim this is 9 portion racism and 1 portion religion. And if you killed all the Christians in Pakistan the Slovaks would not bat a eyelid but touch one European and all hell would break out.

Very true bro, it's virtually all about race. I found the same with Romanians and Bulgarians. They're fine with their own white looking Muslims, but any other race they will be up in arms over it.

 

[axp9p3tn]

You damned idiot. The Slovaks are not against Muslims. They are against non white migrants. If all Muslims were like these Bosnians then they would have no issues.

Actually, we are against 2 things which get interchanged and rea a bit related but are not the same thing.
a) illegal immigrants, there we do not care for the race, the religion, whatever, they broke the law wilfully and we simply want them OUT (note that any illegal granted an asylum becomes legal, so those true refugees not fall here)
b) radical muslims who are hell bent to destroy our way of life (hint: SA friends mostly, most muslims need not apply to this group)

Anyone not falling into above groups is welcome. And I do mean anyone.
But I do have to admit a non-crazy muslim is sure to get mistaken here and there for a fanatic especially by people who he does not meet daily at work etc. But that is same as was above mentioned that Slovaks get commonly mistaken for Slovak gypsies in UK. Such is life.

EDIT: Replacing non-wahhabi to non-crazy, as am sure there are decent followers of wahhabism and crazy followers of other religions at same.

 

[alarabi]

That's kindda strange cuz I've seen a TV show about Saudi students in Poland & Slovakia who have been studying there for several years. They all say good things about Slovakia and its people.

There must no place for any Slovakian in GCC and Arab countries if that neo-Nazi president implements that's rule.

 

[Khanate]

That's kindda strange cuz I've seen a TV show about Saudi students in Poland & Slovakia who have been studying there for several years. They all say good things about Slovakia and its people.

There must no place for any Slovakian in GCC and Arab countries if that neo-Nazi president implements that's rule.

Responding to hate with hate is never a good idea.

I'm not worried at all when I see this sort of vitriolic statements. If anything, Slovaks should be alarmed. Hate has a way of harming its host. Just look at how all the anti-semitism ended up harming Europe. Meanwhile, GCC is going through its golden era. The trend toward openness and inclusiveness should continue.

Interesting video though. Didn't think Saudi students would pick Eastern Europe.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Actually

I hear you but I want you to think about this Muslim extremism thing. I am concerned about it. I am against it. I am on a personal jihad against it. I am doing what I can to oppose it. The reasons are that extremism has hurt Muslims and in particular Pakistan the most. Saudi wahabism has torn the innards of Pakistan asunder. On the other hand I have to face the discrimination that is created by these extremists as I am forced to account for the actions of others - some on the other side of the world.

However what I would like to ask you as a Slovak is please count the number of Slovaks murdered by Islamic extremists in the last 10 years and then count number of thoseSlovaks who died while climbing up the stairs. I am pretty sure more Slovaks have been killed by stairs in Slovakia then the Islamic extremists.

You might well say in Slovakia thanks to your prudent policies you don't have many Muslims therefore you have been successful in controlling Islamic extremism. Okay fine, in that case let us do that test for UK where we have over 2.5 million Muslims. I can give you number of deaths in UK by differant causes.

Link > https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys...12&fit=max&s=daa898be08883f26fc422246c7a48dbc

As you can see 655 people died from falls from stairs. That clearly means stairs are bigger threat to life in UK then Islamic extremism. I don't think we had one death this year from Islamic extremism. The bottomline is this Islamic thing has been over hyped in Europe for political reasons. Yes, indeed Islamic extremism is killing people in large numbers but that is in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan etc.

However Europe has a migrant problem. That is a problem indeed but conveniently it has been interwoven with Islamic extremism - as if all migrants are Muslim, which is not true anyway. In my city the largest increase in numbers of migrants is Eritrean who are conspicious because they look African but with tinge of Arab features and are mostly Christian. Majority of the boats landing in Italy from North Africa are full of African migrants most of whom are Christian.

Muslim has I feel become a synomym for migrant of all faiths and all hues. It would very difficult for Slovakia or any European country to say 'No more Black migrants please' so instead it is abbreviated as Muslim.

*On a separate note my city has a neighbourhood full of Slovak Gypsies. I got to tell you they are easily the worst people I have ever come across. I feel terrible that I might be mistaken for them. Drunk, begging, dirty, uncouth you name it these guy's are stars in the wrong arena. The younger generation that are growing here are going to be cause of lot of problems.

Saudi students in Poland & Slovakia who have been studying there for several years

Those are select cohort and you can't use that as referance. I saw this video of Moin Khan riding through Eastern Europe including Slovakia to Pakistan and he had great things to say but you can conclude only so much.

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