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ISIS so weakened by Russian airstrikes and desertion it could be destroyed in HOURS

Armenian genocide never happened. Period. Let's not get into it. Regarding PKK / other nasty Kurds, they will be neutralized, in due time, whether the "West" likes it or not.

Furthermore, let's not digress by making it a psychoanalysis thread on me.

So you see the Russian offensive as a set-up for Turkey to commit genocide again?
 
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Armenian genocide never happened. Period.
Either you're ignorant or lying. If ignorant, you can check the diplomatic records of the time, like the declassified Foreign Relations of the United States, which recorded Turkish leaders claiming that they had made sure to leave no Armenians alive (so that Turkey, as sovereign, could claim the dead Armenians assets in the U.S.)

Let's not get into it. Regarding PKK / other nasty Kurds, they will be neutralized, in due time, whether the "West" likes it or not.
You wrote "Kurds of all varieties", not "nasty Kurds".

Furthermore, let's not digress by making it a psychoanalysis thread on me.
That wasn't in my mind but clearly it popped into yours.
 
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It'll take more than just air strikes to finish off Daish; it's a mindset now. Air strikes need to be followed by ground action and intelligence sharing among all the internal and external stakeholders.

More needs to be done, but a damn good start!

It means now america will have to create another terror outfit???

well let's just say - some people will love to see Chechna/Daghestan/Ingush face unrest and some elements would actually love to see Russian ground forces in Syria....i doubt Russia would send troops in though other than staffs at some of the bases
 
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Posted yesterday. So far I have yet to see them get wiped out in hours.

The condition being if the world unites. All terror groups must be eliminated. Russia is taking the lead. Until now, it was US which was looked up as a leader. US has lost its position as it has been vacillating on the ISIS issue.
 
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Either you're ignorant or lying. If ignorant, you can check the diplomatic records of the time, like the declassified Foreign Relations of the United States, which recorded Turkish leaders claiming that they had made sure to leave no Armenians alive (so that Turkey, as sovereign, could claim the dead Armenians assets in the U.S.)

You wrote "Kurds of all varieties", not "nasty Kurds".

That wasn't in my mind but clearly it popped into yours.

there was no genocide, it was a civil war-like situation many Ottoman Turks were killed also
 
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Islamic State: ISIS so weakened by Russian bombs its Caliphate could be defeated in hours | World | News | Daily Express

Western and more recently Russian airstrikes, chaotic leadership and mass defections have weakened the jihadi group to such an extent that it would be unable to repel even a small invasion force.

A terror analyst told Express.co.uk that the fanatics have vastly exaggerated their military strength and called on Western leaders to launch a co-ordinated fightback which would obliterate the hate group.

Dr Afzal Ashraf said ISIS has become its own worst enemy with its campaign of terror against the West, which has prompted an international backlash.

A US-led coalition including Britain has launched airstrikes against the extremist group which have killed thousands of its fighters after being outraged by its barbarity.

And Dr Ashraf said that another atrocity on the scale of this summer's Tunisia beach massacre could result in boots on the ground and an end to ISIS' evil grip on power.

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ISIS has been significantly weakened by airstrikes
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The Kurdish Peshmerga have been driving ISIS back in northern Iraq
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An abandoned ISIS outpost which was overrun by Kurdish forces
He said: "This mythical state will disappear in a matter of hours once the international community decides to act.

"It won't take very long at all to drive them, if not out of all of Iraq or Syria, then certainly the majority of their territories.

"They will hide in towns, but I would say do not to follow them as they would use innocent civilians as human shields.

"Leave them in these isolated settlements and they will soon lose control."

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ISIS has reportedly lost half of its fighters
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Footage from a Russian drone showing the destruction of an ISIS headquarters
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Smoke billows from an ISIS building after an airstrike
This mythical state will disappear in a matter of hours once the international community decides to act

Dr Afzal Ashraf

Last month it emerged that half of the group's fighters have now been killed, whilst others are deserting en masse after their salaries were slashed.

Dr Ashraf, a researcher at the respected Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank, added that assessments of ISIS' military capabilities have been vastly overplayed.

He said: "They have built up this superhero status because of the way the Iraqi army just fell apart when they confronted it. But that was not very much to do with their ability to fight, it was to do with the Iraqi army, which just doesn't have a leadership that inspires. Once you've got a General running off you don't expect the soldiers to stand and fight.

"As a result, they have given the impression that they are far more capable than they are. If we had serious forces fighting in a coordinated battle against these people they wouldn't last very long at all."

Dr Afzal Ashraf said ISIS' Caliphate could fall within hours of an assault
His comments came as it emerged that ISIS is now indirectly inspiring far more terror plots abroad than it is carrying out itself.

Research by the Henry Jackson Society showed that the jihadis have been involved in the planning of just one Islamist attack in the last 14 months.

Instead, three quarters of those plotting atrocities in the group's name are inspired by online videos and had never had any contact with its fighters.

But Dr Ashraf said ISIS' strategy of promoting 'lone wolf' attacks will turn out to be its biggest blunder yet.

He said: "Late last summer when ISIS came under attack from Western forces it started to lash out, first through beheadings of Western hostages.

"The reason we've seen a fall in beheadings since then is because they achieved nothing. ISIS had a lot of demands and they never succeeded in those demands.

"Instead they are now encouraging attacks in other countries, but their actions both in terms of inspiring these attacks and in causing a refugee crisis have taken the heat off Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad and have put the focus of the main threat onto them.


"What's happening with these attacks, particularly the Tunisia attack, is that the British government has now taken an increasingly more assertive and aggressive role in the fight against them.

"ISIS has now achieved itself through its own actions what many politicians and people failed to do, and that's to galvanise the international community against it."


The Russkies are doing one hell of a job out there!!!

Your inputs gentlemen... @gambit , @Providence , @KAL-EL , @mike2000 is back , @500 , @Nihonjin1051
Russians are VERY good at talk/propaganda, when it comes to backing it up with tangible proof they fall well short...
 
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there was no genocide, it was a civil war-like situation many Ottoman Turks were killed also
There is a debate among historians because there isn't the documentation that there was for the Holocaust but the intention of the Turks was still to wipe out Armenians - men, women, and children.
 
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The condition being if the world unites. All terror groups must be eliminated. Russia is taking the lead. Until now, it was US which was looked up as a leader. US has lost its position as it has been vacillating on the ISIS issue.

Thats not the condition. That was Russians able to do it themselves. If they can't do it...then we know where the Russian's stand on the ISIS.

Why the hell are you even defending these pathetic neocon imperialists who created this entire mess in the Middle East to begin with??

NATO and America created Al-Qaeda, Taliban, ISIS.

They are America's good terrorists. And now they are being targeted by Mother Russia and people like you are whining about it.


You support Saudi Arabia, the origin of Islamic extremism.
You attacked and destroyed THREE secular Arab countries, but you left the one Arab country from where 19 9/11 hijackers originated from. You people are the reason ISIS and Al-Qaeda ever existed and still exist.


US led airpower didn't do jack sh!t my friend. Only recently ISIS has been curtailed by combined efforts of Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Russia.

And quite whining about Russkies, your governments created the mess in the first place.


Then stop invading Secular Arab countries and converting them into terrorist hotbeds.


You should shut your trap. Your air force has been collaborating with ISIS in striking Syrian Army troop concentrations. You should be the last one talking.

NATO and the U.S. didn't create Al Qaeda, Taliban or the ISIS.

Al Qaeda wasn't created until American forces were stationed in the ME, which Osama Bin Laden created to target Americans. The Taliban didn't exist until the 90s with Pakistan support against the Northern Alliance, and the ISIS came out of the civil war in Syria thanks to Assad cracking down on his own people.

You should see where Osama Bin Laden gets his recruits from. Name the countries all the hijackers are from.

Russian airpower ain't doing anything. After the claims of hours in destroying ISIS, they are almost in week 2.

If the Syrian forces were being targeted by the U.S. led air power, Assad would have say something.
 
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There is a debate among historians because there isn't the documentation that there was for the Holocaust but the intention of the Turks was still to wipe out Armenians - men, women, and children.

leave it to historians then and not politicians
 
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Thats not the condition. That was Russians able to do it themselves. If they can't do it...then we know where the Russian's stand on the ISIS.

European and regional countries and US reluctantly had been funding terror in Syria to eliminate the govt they did not like. The strategy has failed.

There is no law in the world you can raise private militias and fight a govt, which though detested, is still the legitimate govt of Syria.

We outsiders are no one to decide on Assad fate. As outsiders, we should think of people and country of Syria. For 4 years, there has been chorus in European countries and regional countries Assad must go. Fine he must go. But who will replace him? There has been zero progress on political front. No one it seems want to take and own the initiative.

In this void steps in Russia. Russians say they are carrying out bombing on the request of legitimate govt of Syria. Assad govt is legitimate as it is still recognized by UN. There is international law too that foreign govt can help a local govt to quash instability and fight war on its behalf. There is no international law to raise private militias to fight foreign govts.
 
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Americans aren't bombing ISIS. Russia is.
ISIS sells oil to U.S.

That is all.
 
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Meaning what, exactly? You don't think Turkish politicians will invoke the fate of the Armenians to justify doing the same thing to the Kurds?

What are you objectives with this question, Solomon? What do Kurds have to do with Armenians during fall of ottoman?


Ps - nice/interesting to interact with you again after a 2 year hiatus
 
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Meaning what, exactly? You don't think Turkish politicians will invoke the fate of the Armenians to justify doing the same thing to the Kurds?
Dude stop smoking, seriously, your posts are getting more ridiculous day by day, Turkey is fighting a designated terrorist organization nothing more nothing less.
 
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