ISIS releases sickening video clip showing Syrian woman being stoned to death by Her Father

[Biplab Bijay]

look, ISIS is not a recognized govt, so it has no authority whatsoever according to Islam to give any type of verdicts, hence if she was stoned to death, by her father, or the ISIS, it will be considered murder, so a father murdered his daughter, hence nullifying the above Hadith, hence not only loosing Heaven, but also gaining hell in the after life

If a recognized govt. gives the verdict of stone to death to a woman, is it ok ?

 

[Jf Thunder]

If a recognized govt. gives the verdict of stone to death to a woman, is it ok ?

no, even then the power only lies with the "Qadi" (Judge) provided there is not the least doubt about the case, and it is proved 100% that he/she committed adultery (not to be confused with rape PLEASE), in which case both the man and woman shall be provided the same punishment

 

[Biplab Bijay]

no, even then the power only lies with the "Qadi" (Judge) provided there is not the least doubt about the case, and it is proved 100% that he/she committed adultery (not to be confused with rape PLEASE), in which case both the man and woman shall be provided the same punishment

Ok if a judge give this punishment is it ok ? And explain this statement "there is not the least doubt about the case, and it is proved 100%"

 

[Jf Thunder]

Ok if a judge give this punishment is it ok ? And explain this statement "there is not the least doubt about the case, and it is proved 100%"

you have
1) 3 witnesses
2) full evidences that can be provided at that time including medical tests and anything else, your technology can find

Ok if a judge give this punishment is it ok ? And explain this statement "there is not the least doubt about the case, and it is proved 100%"

and yes the punishment is ok, just like punishment for murder is ok (punishment is same for both the man and woman, unless it was rape, then the punishment only goes to the man)

 

[Biplab Bijay]

you have
1) 3 witnesses
2) full evidences that can be provided at that time including medical tests and anything else, your technology can find


and yes the punishment is ok, just like punishment for murder is ok (punishment is same for both the man and woman, unless it was rape, then the punishment only goes to the man)

Ok. Its fine. I just wanted to hear that.

 

[Jf Thunder]

it depends on what kind of person u r! Reglious freak or a human with humanity! Ur choice!

if you are talking about the Quran then it is
"If you kill an innocent human being, it is as if you have killed the whole of humanity, and if you save one innocent human being, it is as if you have saved the whole of humanity"

 

[Biplab Bijay]

it depends on what kind of person u r! Reglious freak or a human with humanity! Ur choice!

Again wrong. if it is claimed that the message is universal, it will not depends on me. The meaning should be same. I just want to know the truth, not the interpretation.

if you are talking about the Quran then it is
"If you kill an innocent human being, it is as if you have killed the whole of humanity, and if you save one innocent human being, it is as if you have saved the whole of humanity"

But I have seen other interpretations too. Are they wrong ?

 

[Jf Thunder]

But I have seen other interpretations too. Are they wrong ?

clarify yourself, INTERPRETATIONS CAN be different, but exact TRANSLATIONS are NOT different, and if you read the arabic text, it can NEVER be different

 

[Biplab Bijay]

clarify yourself, INTERPRETATIONS CAN be different, but exact TRANSLATIONS are NOT different, and if you read the arabic text, it can NEVER be different

How do I know that this is an exact translation and this not ?

 

[Gunsnroses]

If a recognized govt. gives the verdict of stone to death to a woman, is it ok ?

This punishment is not in Islam only. It is present in all three Abrahamic religions. It was never in practice because of its complex nature apart from some regions where people carrying Islam in their pockets. Not to be misused, it was made really complexed and difficult to conclude if someone is innocent or guilty even in the Prophetic time. What I know is, punishment requires four sane persons to have watched the act to give witness statement. These four people SHOULD be best in taqwa (piety) with their background thoroughly checked. Trial just does not end here; there is a further big criteria to be met for the witness, judges and who are charged. Punishment is not mainly for a forbidden act but the two people became so morally down that they felt no shame doing it in front of four people at least. Prophet himself demanded people to repent unless someone insisted to be punished later out of fear of God. Hope this clarifies, however I am no expert.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

This punishment is not in Islam only. It is present in all three Abrahamic religions. It was never in practice because of its complex nature apart from some regions where people carrying Islam in their pockets. Not to be misused, it was made really complexed and difficult to conclude if someone is innocent or guilty even in the Prophetic time. What I know is, punishment requires four sane persons to have watched the act to give witness statement. These four people SHOULD be best in taqwa (piety) with their background thoroughly checked. Trial just does not end here; there is a further big criteria to be met for the witness, judges and who are charged. Punishment is not mainly for a forbidden act but the two people became so morally down that they felt no shame doing it in front of four people at least. Prophet himself demanded people to repent unless someone insisted to be punished later out of fear of God. Hope this clarifies, however I am no expert.

That other poster was saying it differently. Besides if it is written in Quran, Then I want to know that whether its complexity is written or not.

 

[Jf Thunder]

How do I know that this is an exact translation and this not ?

either you google it, or you buy a copy of the Quran with the translation, or best is you learn Arabic itself

That other poster was saying it differently. Besides if it is written in Quran, Then I want to know that whether its complexity is written or not.

i said the same what the poster you quoted said, i only added modern techniques to help the case

 

[Biplab Bijay]

either you google it, or you buy a copy of the Quran with the translation, or best is you learn Arabic itself


i said the same what the poster you quoted said, i only added modern techniques to help the case

I googled it. Found three four versions with different meanings. which one is true ?

 

[Black Widow]

What sickening in it?

Stoning to death is according to Islam.. Taliban did it in past (Now don't tell me Talibs read different Islamic Book)...

if you are talking about the Quran then it is
"If you kill an innocent human being, it is as if you have killed the whole of humanity, and if you save one innocent human being, it is as if you have saved the whole of humanity"

Define innocent..

Because one who don't believe in al-aha (the moon god latter known as Allah) is sinful.

I worship monkey god and say "Allah is not only god" Sir @Zarvan will tag me Guilty...

 

[Gunsnroses]

I googled it. Found three four versions with different meanings. which one is true ?

Authenticity of translation is always a question. Please be aware. However I can say that the personality of Dr. Tahir ul Qadri is disputed for some, his authenticity in Islamic jurisprudence is not. I have not read his translation but here is a link Islamic Library - The Glorious Quran