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Pakistan intelligence agency claims Afghanistan supports Taliban splinter groups

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan's intelligence agency has accused the Afghan government of supporting Taliban splinter groups.
In a report presented to Pakistan’s Supreme Court on Tuesday, the ISI agency alleged President Hamid Karzai’s administration was in league with groups linked to the main Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan movement, known collectively as the TTS.
The report suggested the "recent nexus of TTS with Afghan government is likely to enhance the terrorist activities" in areas along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border such as Mohman, Bajaur, Dir, Swat and Chitral.
Anti-Pakistan elements, particularly from across the border in Afghanistan, had provided "strong support" in terms of money, logistics and training and this was “one of the main factors for increased militancy,” the report said.
However, it added that the Taliban’s ability to act "at will and to face security forces openly has been substantially curtailed."*
The report said that internal rifts within the main Pakistani Taliban group had led to the creation of splinter groups.
"TTS, after having been dislodged from area, has resorted to [suicide bomb and improvised explosive device] attacks" on law-enforcement agencies and other officials, the report said.
The court is considering a case involving seven people who are being kept in one of several internment centers in the border area, despite being acquitted by an anti-terrorism court because of lack of evidence against them.
The ISI report was submitted to justify the internment centers and military operations against militants more generally.
The ISI said it was not going to release people held at the internment centers, warning that the detainees included terrorists who could go to cities like Islamabad and Lahore and launch attacks.
It said that 3,871 Pakistani security personnel, more than 3,000 militants and more than 5,000 civilians had been killed in the border area in the last five years.
There had been 235 suicide attacks, 9,257 rocket attacks and 4,256 bombings during the same period, the report added.
Afghanistan and Pakistan have a difficult relationship.
Islamabad has accused Kabul of failing to stop anti-government militants from operating from mountain havens in Afghanistan, while Kabul has blamed Pakistan’s military for cross-border shelling.
U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel responds to Afghan President Hamid Karzai's statements in which Karzai accused the U.S. and Taliban with working together.
In September, Afghanistan’s foreign minister told the United Nations Security Council that diplomatic ties with Pakistan were under threat.
The Afghan foreign ministry declined to comment on the ISI report.
Earlier this month, Karzai claimed that the Taliban was carrying out attacks in Afghanistan "in service of America."
On Monday, after a private meeting with Secretary of State John Kerry in Kabul, Karzai insisted he had not meant to suggest that the United States was colluding with the Taliban, Reuters reported.
"I never used the word 'collusion' between the Taliban and the U.S. Those were not my words. Those were the [words] picked up by the media," he said.
Kerry said the two men had discussed the matter but he played it down, Reuters reported. "I am confident that the president absolutely does not believe that the United States has any interest except to see the Taliban come to the table to make peace."

Pakistan intelligence agency claims Afghanistan supports Taliban splinter groups - World News


Enough is enough, we need to silence the dog(Afghan govt) which is biting its masters hands
 
Thread rebooted. Keep India out of this discussion and on topic to the Supreme Court case. We've all debated about India's behind the scenes role in supporting TTP through Afghan government, no need to rehash it. Talk about the claims ISI has made against the Afghan government only.

Pehle ek cheez sabit hogi toh doosri cheez pe ayenge na. But this is about a case in the Pakistan Supreme Court.
 
ISI did a job by submitting the report to the SC, the corrupt & incompetent politicians did not do anything during the SWA operation when tons of reports were given by Pak Army to the Govt. on India & Afghanistan supporting these rented terrorists groups against Pakistan.

I hope SC acts on this with honesty.

I hope Pak Army considers Gen. Musharraf proposal of mining the whole border with Afghanistan.
 
ISI Report

•On Tuesday, top intelligence agencies including the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) released a report to the Pakistani Supreme Court detailing casualties from the War on Terror, saying over 49,000 had people died since 2001. According to the report, the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is fracturing and weaker than it was in 2008 because of actions by the Pakistani state. However, splinter factions of the TTP are strong, and continue to conduct attacks on the Shia community, specifically in Quetta. The report further said that “the Afghan government was colluding with the Swat chapter of TTP.” The report explained that “strong support” from Afghanistan, including money, weapons, logistics, and training, is “one of the main factors for increased militancy.” The agencies were presenting in front of the court in defense of their use of an act that allows the military to indefinitely detain individuals linked to terrorism in military-run jails in northwest Pakistan.[2
 
You support Taliban in Afghanistan and they support Taliban in Pakistan :D .( Super analogy of Good Taliban , Bad Taliban . Taliban in neighbors home , Epic , Taliban in My home , Terrorism )

If you don't like getting paid in the same coin you should negotiate with Afghanistan's Government and both of you guys should weed out talibunnies to help each other .
 
ISI Report

•On Tuesday, top intelligence agencies including the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) released a report to the Pakistani Supreme Court detailing casualties from the War on Terror, saying over 49,000 had people died since 2001. According to the report, the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is fracturing and weaker than it was in 2008 because of actions by the Pakistani state. However, splinter factions of the TTP are strong, and continue to conduct attacks on the Shia community, specifically in Quetta. The report further said that “the Afghan government was colluding with the Swat chapter of TTPThe report explained that “strong support” from Afghanistan, including money, weapons, logistics, and training, is “one of the main factors for increased militancy.” The agencies were presenting in front of the court in defense of their use of an act that allows the military to indefinitely detain individuals linked to terrorism in military-run jails in northwest Pakistan.[2

Identify the main characters in the particular section of the NDS responsible for the execution of the policy and those responsie for maintaining the relationship, reach out and "touch" them and offer their family, immediate and extended, "refuge" - and the support, the money will stop immediately. Will Pakistan security authorities act in this responsible way? No, the US is will be terribly unhappy with such a display of will.

Afghans can be great friends, the best of friends, but first you must make them believe, in their bones, what enmity will mean.
 
Thread rebooted. Keep India out of this discussion and on topic to the Supreme Court case. We've all debated about India's behind the scenes role in supporting TTP through Afghan government, no need to rehash it. Talk about the claims ISI has made against the Afghan government only.

Keep India out of this discussion when you guys always blame India and Afghanistan of supporting the TTP? If Pakistan can support the Afghan Taliban (Haqqani/Omar) why can't Afghanistan support TTP? Two can play the game, right? The ISI doesn't have the sole rights of supporting militant groups.

The ISI submitting a report to the SC is to just cover their backs so they ain't blamed for the killings and opening of detention centers to incarcerate people without due process of law.
 
ISI Report

•On Tuesday, top intelligence agencies including the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) released a report to the Pakistani Supreme Court detailing casualties from the War on Terror, saying over 49,000 had people died since 2001. According to the report, the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) is fracturing and weaker than it was in 2008 because of actions by the Pakistani state. However, splinter factions of the TTP are strong, and continue to conduct attacks on the Shia community, specifically in Quetta. The report further said that “the Afghan government was colluding with the Swat chapter of TTP.” The report explained that “strong support” from Afghanistan, including money, weapons, logistics, and training, is “one of the main factors for increased militancy.” The agencies were presenting in front of the court in defense of their use of an act that allows the military to indefinitely detain individuals linked to terrorism in military-run jails in northwest Pakistan.[2


Is this true :what:
 
You support Taliban in Afghanistan and they support Taliban in Pakistan :D .( Super analogy of Good Taliban , Bad Taliban . Taliban in neighbors home , Epic , Taliban in My home , Terrorism )

If you don't like getting paid in the same coin you should negotiate with Afghanistan's Government and both of you guys should weed out talibunnies to help each other .

ahhhh!!
stop that dear...
there is difference in terrorism and fighting...
and Why Afghan Talibans don't have **** weapons if we are supporting em...
ISI was supporting them in training and all money was provided by US and Arabs in era of Soviet attack soo before blaming ISI for supporting talibans 1st blame US and Arabs also the CIA for this.....:yu:
 
ISI Did the right thing by making the report public and submitting it in Supreme Court! We all know Afghanistan is not only Supporting TTP but other ethnic and separatist groups also!
 
Is this true :what:

no deaf it's not true..
actually one day after 2008 earthquake some people emerged from beneath the earth and there was a rain of weapons in the forest where they were living and with that russian and Indian weapons they start their activities against Pakistan...:rofl::omghaha:
 
ahhhh!!
stop that dear...
there is difference in terrorism and fighting...
and Why Afghan Talibans don't have **** weapons if we are supporting em...
ISI was supporting them in training and all money was provided by US and Arabs in era of Soviet attack soo before blaming ISI for supporting talibans 1st blame US and Arabs also the CIA for this.....:yu:

One Man's Terrorist is another mans Fighter . Its difference of opinion .
And you are right Cia and Saudi and ISI trained and financed and spread propaganda against Soviets but CIA withdrew after afghan defeat . ISI kept them and are still not moving in full force against them .
 
Keep India out of this discussion when you guys always blame India and Afghanistan of supporting the TTP? If Pakistan can support the Afghan Taliban (Haqqani/Omar) why can't Afghanistan support TTP? Two can play the game, right? The ISI doesn't have the sole rights of supporting militant groups.

The ISI submitting a report to the SC is to just cover their backs so they ain't blamed for the killings and opening of detention centers to incarcerate people without due process of law.

If ISI don't have the right to accuse some sold people of Afghans then from when you got the right to interfere in the matters of two brother nations??
Keep your nose out of it....
don't worry we will take good care of your investment on TTP and your hard work on Afghan officials.....:lol::oops:
 
One Man's Terrorist is another mans Fighter . Its difference of opinion .
And you are right Cia and Saudi and ISI trained and financed and spread propaganda against Soviets but CIA withdrew after afghan defeat . ISI kept them and are still not moving in full force against them .

if CIA withdrew then wt about money??:lol:
yeah they withdrew when US attacked Afghanistan....
ISI kept them?? wt does that mean???
they were rulers of afghanistan not our personal servents...
your use of word kept explains that we are not supporting em....
and who captured many Talibans officials passing by Pakistan??
and there is no activity of Afghan Talibans on Pakistani soil soo demanding action against em in presence of US and Nato is quite pointless dear...
we have much to counter for our own national security at present..:sniper:
and TTP have commando training,sniper training,antiair craft guns training,jeeps,escape vehicles,tones of gun powder and bombs...bulk was captured in swat...mines fulled of explosives even 50-70 ft were recovered...
so saying that just Afghans are supporting..:nono:
RAW is too in this game...
many hindus were captured and killed in Swat operation..
well:offtopic: and a secret...
 
if CIA withdrew then wt about money??:lol:
yeah they withdrew when US attacked Afghanistan....
ISI kept them?? wt does that mean???
they were rulers of afghanistan not our personal servents...
your use of word kept explains that we are not supporting em....
and who captured many Talibans officials passing by Pakistan??
and there is no activity of Afghan Talibans on Pakistani soil soo demanding action against em in presence of US and Nato is quite pointless dear...
we have much to counter for our own national security at present..:sniper:
and TTP have commando training,sniper training,antiair craft guns training,jeeps,escape vehicles,tones of gun powder and bombs...bulk was captured in swat...mines fulled of explosives even 50-70 ft were recovered...
so saying that just Afghans are supporting..:nono:
RAW is too in this game...
many hindus were captured and killed in Swat operation..
well:offtopic: and a secret...


Please provide official statement of Pakistan and not some random youtube video/defense analyst and i will agree with ya . And yeah i agree with your RAW point and buddy U.S. is fighting same talibaboons they nurtured in the past . That is what US is doin in Afghanistan.
 

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