ISI involved in foiling UK terror attack

[Bull]

well some inncoent lives saved.Good job.

They need to go after these people not for the sake of F16s or Bush's pat,but for their own good.

 

[Awesome]

Pakistanis would always keep national interest first.

 

[Munir]

Let us put it simple. I do not see why those people want to kill innocent people and destroy planes. It will never bring any improvement and they destroy the future of not only the victims and their families but also those "muslims"/"asians" that wants to be part of the western world. Even if they have a reason then it is the most stupid way to it.

Something the western world should see is that these reactions are the result of western domination or discrimination. Social weaker groups are tools for those that want to exploit the differences and create chaos. economic improvement, education (free of religeon) and exporting of democratic processes should change this. I don't see why people do not respect the basic values of all religeons.

To those that repeat that Western world abused them. Well. Then change that slavery mentallity. Improve yourself. One cannot become a better person by using weapons. One cannot win it being a weaker and less developed party. How come that everytime the mulsims have loss of life and property?

 

[Bull]

Let us put it simple. I do not see why those people want to kill innocent people and destroy planes. It will never bring any improvement and they destroy the future of not only the victims and their families but also those "muslims"/"asians" that wants to be part of the western world. Even if they have a reason then it is the most stupid way to it.?

Not everybody is as sane as you,if it was so then world wud have been much much better.

Something the western world should see is that these reactions are the result of western domination or discrimination. Social weaker groups are tools for those that want to exploit the differences and create chaos. economic improvement, education (free of religeon) and exporting of democratic processes should change this. I don't see why people do not respect the basic values of all religeons.?

50:50,thats how i agree to this content.

Agreed that social deprivation is feeding ground for such terror minds.

But whom can we blame for that,the respective govts or the western govts/society?
I would say its more apt to blame the local govt,in most of the cases atleast wrt to Pakistan.Unlike palestine or Lebonon or iran there has been no direct conflict btw pak est and US.

On the other hand US has fought with japan,has tried to dominate CCCP and its communist allies and had enemity with so many latin american,but never did we see a retaliation in such amagnitute targeted at the civilians.have we???


And to link terror to US's OP DEMOCRACY in Middle east is not true.Terror has striken us much before that.

To those that repeat that Western world abused them. Well. Then change that slavery mentallity. Improve yourself. One cannot become a better person by using weapons. One cannot win it being a weaker and less developed party. How come that everytime the mulsims have loss of life and property?

Exactly mate,say that to those whom you know in and around your locality.Now a days suicide bombers have started emerging from well off localities.So you never know might be able to put some sense into senseless minds.

 

[Samudra]

Pakistanis would always keep national interest first.

That is how you created Taliban.:flag:

 

[Spring Onion]

That is how you created Taliban.:flag:

That was how US created Osma and later Taliban to work for US citizens' welafre be it was in terms of Oil or fighting USSR.

 

[Samudra]

Pakistan is justified in creating a Taliban because America created a Osama?

 

[Awesome]

Pak didn't create Pashtuns in Afghanistan they were always there.

Remove America from the country and see the Pashtuns form another Taliban-like government without any interference from Pakistan.

Taliban were supported not created. Taliban didn't fire rockets or sent their Air Force to bomb Pakistan. National Interest.

When they stopped being nice to us, we stopped being nice to them. National Interest.

 

[Spring Onion]

Sam further more Taliban were supported by US untill they refused to let US pass on Oil remmebr US oil Company there ?

Just like they first promoted Usama bt when they themselves felt the burnt he was no more a nice guy

 

[Samudra]

Just like they first promoted Usama bt when they themselves felt the burnt he was no more a nice guy

My question still stands.Does the wrong deeds of US justify the errors of Pakistan in creating/supporting a terrorist organisation?

 

[Spring Onion]

My question still stands.Does the wrong deeds of US justify the errors of Pakistan in creating/supporting a terrorist organisation?

And you continue not to understand what im saying :disappointed:

We dont not support Taliban anymore the world knows this. We had put our own security at risk to fight along US in War on Terror.

Now if the advocats of peace when outrightly blam Pakistan for all the mess they should also point out it was all created by US.

 

[Samudra]

I'm not saying you're supporting Taliban presently.My question is very simple : Did Pakistan err by supporting Taliban irrespective of American actions?

We had put our own security at risk to fight along US in War on Terror.

It was a with us or against us choice, Jana.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Ah! ofcourse the US is responsible for all the evil of the world!

The Great White Satan, what ho?

While the US maybe the catalyst for many errors around the world, we, too should do some soul searching!

 

[Awesome]

Salim, the debate was about national interest and if you look at it, national interest always justifies no matter what the action might be.

Taliban? National Interest. No Taliban? National Interest.

It's a lesson taught to the world by America. As long as its the enemy side that loses, every option is on the table. Pakistan's first, everything else's second.

 

[Munir]

My question still stands.Does the wrong deeds of US justify the errors of Pakistan in creating/supporting a terrorist organisation?

Unfortunately this person is no longer a guest here but I do wanna answer this one. The reality in the Cold war was that Russia wanted to get Afghanistan and then Baluchistan. We all know the reasons why. Pakistan did help the many Mujhadeen to resist. They were called the freedomfighters cause they stopped communism. The next target would be Pakistan so what else do you expect? Pakistan never invaded Afghanistan and had to accept the bombings of Pakistani area's. Why else would you see several Russian planes shot sown in Pakistani area? Whether it is a terrorist organisation or not is not up to you. At the moment they were needed. The reason they were pictured as terrorists is caused they would not listen to mr Bush's wishes. First they were used and now again for the fight against world terrorism. You cannot blaim Pakistan for that. But somehow the Indian internethype shows Indian IT nerds trying to alter the history and blaim everything on Pakistan. It reminds me of the pictures we got from the famous BRF meet in the USA... Nerds all the way. Let face the reality. India is filled with poor people, is not able to produce anything then IT helpdesks and will not become a superpower. It has a big nationalistic mindset (BJP and congres) and they cannot act against Pakistan so we even have to keep China out of the picture...

If we talk about terrorism then state terrorism by India in Kashnmir or Gujarat should be mentionned...