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ISI hid news of Mullah Omar’s death: ex-Pentagon official
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Pakistan’s intelligence had knowledge about the death of reclusive Taliban chief Mullah Omar and its move to hide the news is “failure” of not only the US-Pak intelligence co-operation, but also the American intelligence as well, a former top Pentagon official has said.

Mullah Omar, the one-eyed commander who led the Taliban for some 20 years, is reported to have died in a hospital in Karachi on April 23, 2013.

But the information about his mysterious death, most probably due to tuberculosis, was leaked only this month and then subsequently confirmed by the Taliban, the White House and the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistan, which has considerable influence over the Taliban leadership and was instrumental in bringing them to the peace talks table with the democratically elected government of Afghanistan last month, has as usual strongly denied that it had any information about the death of Omar.

However, David Sedney, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Afghanistan-Pakistan during 2009-2013, has intensive knowledge of the terrorist groups of the region and has strong network of contacts within the intelligence community of the region and the US, refuses to buy the Pakistani argument.

“I am highly highly confident that at least few people in the Pakistani government and intelligence agencies (Inter-Services Intelligence) knew about this (death of Mullah Omar),” Sedney told PTI.

“The whole issue of Mullah Omar’s death and the fact that it was kept secret for so long and so successfully leads to a host of other questions,” he said.

“People are asking everywhere – in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in the US, – how did this happen and why? Because to carry out that kind of deception, I would say, is an example of highly professional intelligence tactics. There does not seem to be any history, anywhere I know of, similar kinds of movements where they have lost a leader and then kept it secret for so long,” Sedney said.

Sedney, who now is a nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a top American think-tank, argued that not knowing the death of Mullah Omar for two years is a failure of US intelligence in a major way.

“It is failure of US intelligence in two ways. First it did not find out what was going on inside the Taliban and secondly it did not find out from Pakistan. US intelligence has had a mixed relationship with ISI over the years. One of the things people have used to justify our relationship with Pakistan is that in a number of areas we had good intelligence sharing co-operation. To me this is a failure of that intelligence relationship,” Sedney said.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...s-of-mullah-omars-death-ex-pentagon-official/
 
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Pakistan ISI operates on the Principle of " NEED TO KNOW, BASIS ".

If you need to know you will be informed.....:azn:

Otherwise...... :D

What are the basis of your claim?

ISI hid news of Mullah Omar’s death: ex-Pentagon official
46 MINS AGO BY AGENCIES
Pakistan’s intelligence had knowledge about the death of reclusive Taliban chief Mullah Omar and its move to hide the news is “failure” of not only the US-Pak intelligence co-operation, but also the American intelligence as well, a former top Pentagon official has said.

Mullah Omar, the one-eyed commander who led the Taliban for some 20 years, is reported to have died in a hospital in Karachi on April 23, 2013.

But the information about his mysterious death, most probably due to tuberculosis, was leaked only this month and then subsequently confirmed by the Taliban, the White House and the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistan, which has considerable influence over the Taliban leadership and was instrumental in bringing them to the peace talks table with the democratically elected government of Afghanistan last month, has as usual strongly denied that it had any information about the death of Omar.

However, David Sedney, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Afghanistan-Pakistan during 2009-2013, has intensive knowledge of the terrorist groups of the region and has strong network of contacts within the intelligence community of the region and the US, refuses to buy the Pakistani argument.

“I am highly highly confident that at least few people in the Pakistani government and intelligence agencies (Inter-Services Intelligence) knew about this (death of Mullah Omar),” Sedney told PTI.

“The whole issue of Mullah Omar’s death and the fact that it was kept secret for so long and so successfully leads to a host of other questions,” he said.

“People are asking everywhere – in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in the US, – how did this happen and why? Because to carry out that kind of deception, I would say, is an example of highly professional intelligence tactics. There does not seem to be any history, anywhere I know of, similar kinds of movements where they have lost a leader and then kept it secret for so long,” Sedney said.

Sedney, who now is a nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a top American think-tank, argued that not knowing the death of Mullah Omar for two years is a failure of US intelligence in a major way.

“It is failure of US intelligence in two ways. First it did not find out what was going on inside the Taliban and secondly it did not find out from Pakistan. US intelligence has had a mixed relationship with ISI over the years. One of the things people have used to justify our relationship with Pakistan is that in a number of areas we had good intelligence sharing co-operation. To me this is a failure of that intelligence relationship,” Sedney said.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/08/16/national/isi-hid-news-of-mullah-omars-death-ex-pentagon-official/

Why do you trust Americans so religiously? Leave them alone... btw. if you watch Iranian media, they blame ISI every hour for their own miseries too.
 
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The CIA hides things from the ISI, why should anyone expect the ISI to be completely honest with the CIA? These are Intel agencies. Even" friendly" agencies don't cooperate fully with each other, even if they play nice in the public eye.

Wasn't it the NSA that spied on supposed allied nations and friendly governments, along with their leaders (and probably still do)?
 
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The CIA hides things from the ISI, why should anyone expect the ISI to be completely honest with the CIA? These are Intel agencies. Even" friendly" agencies don't cooperate fully with each other, even if they play nice in the public eye.

Wasn't it the NSA that spied on supposed allied nations and friendly governments, along with their leaders (and probably still do)?

What an idiotic remark... who told you ISI is hiding things from CIA? or you just pushing some anti Pakistan message out of your nature.
If Pakistan knew of Mulla Omer or OBL, it would have been shared with CIA... there is agreement of co-operation on it, irrespective of if CIA hide or not.
 
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What an idiotic remark... who told you ISI is hiding things from CIA? or you just pushing some anti Pakistan message out of your nature.
If Pakistan knew of Mulla Omer or OBL, it would have been shared with CIA... there is agreement of co-operation on it, irrespective of if CIA hide or not.
There is a reason why no one takes you seriously.

And don't call other people idiots, when you have no clue what you're talking about.

The ISI is an Intel agency that is meant to safeguard against all foreign threats against Pakistan. It is no secret to anyone that Pakistan has been a CIA target for a long time, especially Pakistan's nuclear weapons.

If the ISI didn't hide things from the CIA, it would be betraying Pakistan, selling out Pakistan's sovereignty.

Now, don't reply to me. I only replied to you, to humor your lack of knowledge, nothing more.
 
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There is a reason why no one takes you seriously.

And don't call other people idiots, when you have no clue what you're talking about.

The ISI is an Intel agency that is meant to safeguard against all foreign threats against Pakistan. It is no secret to anyone that Pakistan has been a CIA target for a long time, especially Pakistan's nuclear weapons.

If the ISI didn't hide things from the CIA, it would be betraying Pakistan, selling out Pakistan's sovereignty.

Now, don't reply to me. I only replied to you, to humor your lack of knowledge, nothing more.

It is indeed idiotic to ignore what I wrote and deviate the discussing to what I didn't wrote.

Indeed our intelligence can hide information in general, but blaming them for hiding on subject matter is as abhorrent as it can get.
If our ISI is hiding things from CIA than how it came to your knowledge? Do you have friends on defence pk who's parent have inside info.?

How idiotic can it get further.... some body tell me!
 
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It is indeed idiotic to ignore what I wrote and deviate the discussing to what I didn't wrote.

Indeed our intelligence can hide information in general, but blaming them for hiding on subject matter is as abhorrent as it can get.
If our ISI is hiding things from CIA than how it came to your knowledge? Do you have friends on defence pk who's parent have inside info.?

How idiotic can it get further.... some body tell me!
Same logic can be applied to you. How do you know they ARE sharing?

Yours is a childish argument.
 
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Same logic can be applied to you. How do you know they ARE sharing?

Yours is a childish argument.

I have no reason to believe western intelligence source and its frogs in Pakistan.
ISPR have said on million occasions that they didn't knew of OBL or Mulla Omer.... i have to believe them.
Yours is a rainbow trait.
 
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I have no reason to believe western intelligence source and its frogs in Pakistan.
ISPR have said on million occasions that they didn't knew of OBL or Mulla Omer.... i have to believe them.
Yours is a rainbow trait.
Sure.
 
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